Jill Stein: Criticizes Libertarians in Interview with PanAm Post

Green Party Presidential Candidate Jill Stein Wants a Pony for Everyone

Third-Party Challenger Has No Love for Libertarians

Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate in 2012, faces a dilemma: less than 0.4 percent of the popular vote does not a president make, so she must somehow tailor her message in 2016 to appeal beyond the party faithful.

Will she reach out to libertarians and other limited-government types in her second go at it? According to an interview with the PanAm Post in Miami, not on your life.

On the contrary, any such strategy would be antithetical to her stated goals. In her public appearances, she has offered a litany of nanny-state proposals that would put even socialist senator and Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders to shame. Further, she has all but ignored the opportunity for common ground in areas such as the drug war, the police state, and domestic surveillance.

Stein, a 65-year-old physician and author of Environmental Threats to Healthy Aging, was in South Florida in late May for the March Against Monsanto. Although in the “exploratory” stage, her trip down from Massachusetts doubled as a campaign stop, with a meet-and-greet after the protest, and she gladly spoke with media present.

How to bring together discordant independents was, she acknowledged, “the 24,000-dollar question.”

“The old coalitions have fallen apart. Labor and women and immigrants … a lot of youth and climate-justice advocates are not coming out to vote in the numbers they used to.”

This is why, she continued, the Democratic Party has suffered: “There is a major political realignment going on right now, and there is a political vacuum among a … politics of integrity, or a kind of progressive politics.”

Any gesture towards independents who see the US federal government exceeding its bounds, however, was not forthcoming. In fact, Stein dismissed the Libertarian Party as “corporate” and not, in her view, among the third parties challenging the Republicans and Democrats in a noble fashion.

The article does not mention it, but Jill Stein has been willing to work with Libertarians on at least one topic of shared concern. In Our America Initiative’s proposed lawsuit against the Commission on Presidential Debates, Stein is a partner and co-plaintiff alongside Gary Johnson, their 2012 running mates, and their respective party’s national committees.

h/t Richard Winger

14 thoughts on “Jill Stein: Criticizes Libertarians in Interview with PanAm Post

  1. Dave

    Between this and the Greens not joining in with that petition drive in Arkansas, my respect for that party has taken a bit of a nosedive lately.

    Any chance someone else beats Dr. Stein for the nomination? I imagine not.

  2. Andy Craig Post author

    Consensus seems to be probably not.

    Presumably if Libertarians don’t count, then the Constitution Party is right out. I doubt Stein was meaning to imply anything nice about Peace & Freedom. So I guess that leaves the Greens as the only “noble” challengers of the two-party system in her mind, along with whatever other minor left-wing parties might be willing to give the Green ticket their ballot lines.

    It’s ok, we’ll still be willing to let the Democrats-on-steroids ride our ignoble coat-tails when it suits them, on their way to getting a third as many votes.

  3. Gene Berkman

    By far the best article on Jill Stein I have seen.

    She wants free tuition @ colleges and says we have cut college funding because of payoffs to the wealthy.

    Actually, college funding is at record levels, and free tuition is a benefit that mostly goes to people who are well off, at the expense of working people who often had no opportunity to go to college.

  4. Jill Pyeatt

    Gene Berkman said: “free tuition is a benefit that mostly goes to people who are well off.”

    How so, Gene? In my recent experience, the only scholarship & grant money goes to families who make less than $80,000 per year which in CA, of course, is at least what it costs for a middle-class family to live.

  5. paulie

    Where are these huge corporate donations to the LP? Funny stuff.

    A few months ago a member of the Green Party ballot access committee told me they would be working jointly with the Constitution Party on ballot access, but I haven’t been able to get a hold of him lately.

  6. Andy Craig Post author

    I do think them not participating in the Arkansas drive was more for financial reasons, and the ideological disagreement cited by GP-AR was just a fig leaf for them being broke.

  7. Steve Scheetz

    Well, I was happy to see the author mention the words “basic economics” when discussing how ludicrous her plan of free education happened to be.

    So many people from that side of the political spectrum seem to believe that all the money for their proposals will magically appear, and they don’t seem to grasp that some people work 14 hours a day to have a few nice things. Like an education, for example, or a home. Also, when a person works hard for what they achieve, there is more of an appreciation for what he/she has earned.

    People are not entitled to things, they are entitled to OPPORTUNITY.


    Steve Scheetz

  8. Root's Teeth Are Awesome

    Progressives are always talking about “broad coalitions” — by which they mean women, minorities, students, workers, immigrants etc. — but all those groups must take the same progressive position on all ideological issues.

    Progressives organized many “broad coalition” antiwar protests ten years ago, but most of their protests refused to allow antiwar libertarians or paleconservatives to participate as speakers or co-sponsors. A few did. Many did not.

    NPR did a story back then on allegations that A.N.S.W.E.R. tried to monopolize the antiwar movement, barring speakers who did not share their views on every issue.

    I think one reason the antiwar protests did not grow as big as they might have is that MoveOn.org, A.N.S.W.E.R., and some others, tried to “own” the antiwar movement, and use it to recruit activists for their other causes. Their “broad coalition” protests were less about stopping the war, and more about building their activist/donor base.

    Code Pink had some joint protests with Libertarians for Peace. But Code Pink were a minority in their willingness to work with the antiwar “right.”

  9. Antirevolutionary

    Of course we don’t want to raise taxes for people who actually work hard. But millionaires and billionaires are parasites who don’t actually work hard.

  10. langa

    RTAA, you make some excellent points. And don’t forget, much of the “antiwar” activism on the left basically disappeared once Obama took over as the new Murderer-in-Chief.

  11. paulie

    I do think them not participating in the Arkansas drive was more for financial reasons, and the ideological disagreement cited by GP-AR was just a fig leaf for them being broke.

    True. They have worked wih us in the past and used Libertarian petitioners even before the LP was getting on there.

    This time they are only going for the presidential ticket access, so they have a lot longer to do it and need only 1/10th as many signatures, so they really had no need to hire us. Not sure why they evn mention the ideological issue, Jenkins of all people knows better, and he always signs our Libertarian petitions, including this time.

  12. Andy Craig Post author

    I can easily imagine a scenario where the reporter asked him to expound on general LP-GP differences, and then either misinterpreted or misquoted that as being a reason for staying out of the petition drive. You would have to ask Jenkins I suppose.

    In 2010, I recall that the Ark. Greens and Libertarians even formed a fusion ticket of sorts, where Libertarian candidates filled out their ballot line because they didn’t have enough candidates and we didn’t have our own ballot line in Arkansas yet. So my first vote cast was actually for several “Greens” who have since run again with their actual Libertarian label. I wasn’t keyed in to the details of that negotiation or agreement, but I remember finding out about it in time to have no qualms voting a full Green ticket that year.

  13. paulie

    There’s people in both the GP and LP there who don’t want to work with each other, but Jenkins never struck me that way. I’m not going to call him about it, since I wouldn’t want to run back to Arkansas to just work on the Green petitio only even if they did offer to pay us. I have his number if anyone is sufficiently interested, but it seems trivial to me.

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