Harkin & Hughes petitioners falsely claim Green Party backing

Posted by my co-blogger, Ian Wilder, at onthewilderside.com:

The audio file above was recorded about 8:20pm on June 30, 2015, when two petitioners came to my door looking for me. They were collecting signatures on petitions for candidates for Suffolk County Family Court Judge to run on the Green Party line. The judicial candidates were George Harkin of Baiting Hollow and Matthew Hughes of Huntington. One petition signature collector was Meaghan Howard, an attorney. The other petitioner was her husband, who stated that the Judge candidates Harkin and Hughes were “nominated” by the Green Party. Ms. Howard reinforced his statements by saying that the candidates are “backed” by the Green Party.

In no way were Harkin or Hughes “nominated” or “backed” by the Green Party.

I have checked with the Green Party Suffolk County Chair and New York State Co-Chair: There are no Green Party judge candidates in Suffolk County. Furthermore, the current NY State Green Party rules would prevent the party from cross-endorsing these candidates. Harkin is a Republican and Hughes is a Conservative. The NY State Green Party rules prevent cross-endorsement of any of the other ballot access party candidates (Democrat, Republican, Conservative, Independence, or Working Families).

The petitioners wrongly stated that Harkin and Hughes were “nominated” and “backed” in order to falsely induce a signature on their petition.

To find out what to do in the upcoming primary, please read this post: Who to write-in for in the 9/10/15 Suffolk Green Party Primary?

–Ian Wilder

20 thoughts on “Harkin & Hughes petitioners falsely claim Green Party backing

  1. bruuno

    I gather signatures for the WFP every year and was shocked to find out that they (local Republican judicial campaigns/Party) pulled the same stunt here on the South Fork against the WFP endorsed candidates. From what I understand this is going on across the state in judicial races from both the GOP and Democratic Parties for the various ‘3rd Party’ lines. Thank you for getting this on tape. We need to make sure our respective Party members know what is going on and get out to vote this Thursday.

  2. Andy

    Sounds like the work of scumbag mercenary petition circulators. The Libertarian Party leadership will probably want to hire these clowns yet if they haven’t already.

  3. Jim Polichak from Long Island

    It’s a long held tradition for candidates – especially judicial candidates – to run one more than one party line. The Green Party will have it’s work cut out for them trying to stop this abuse and there is even a chance that petitions that they challenge as violating party rules might still be approved by local boards of elections since the members of the boards belong to the two major parties who support these nominees. I’m not a lawyer myself but knowing many people who have sought and attained office they might have made the rule that the Green Party has about forbidding cross-endorsements illegal.

  4. paulie

    Sounds like the work of scumbag mercenary petition circulators. The Libertarian Party leadership will probably want to hire these clowns yet if they haven’t already.

    Are they the ones working on Top Two in South Dakota?

  5. Mark Axinn

    >Sounds like the work of scumbag mercenary petition circulators. The Libertarian Party leadership will probably want to hire these clowns yet if they haven’t already.

    No, Andy, it does not at all. It sounds like run of the mill Republican Party workers (who are also scumbags) trying to take over a smaller, weaker party.

    Please give it a fucking rest already.

  6. Mark Axinn

    brunno (and Ian and Kimberly)–

    This is s.o.p. for the Republican and Democratic Parties in New York. They are the same people who gave us the phony Stop Common Core and Women’s Equality Parties.

    Personally, I think the best way to thwart it is to have strong local chapters in as many of the 62 counties as possible. The LPNY actually has decent organization in many major counties in the State, including Suffolk, but what we don’t have yet (as GP and WFP had) is 50,000 votes for Governor.

    The New York Green Party is particularly rife for attack by Demos and Repubs. It ran a great candidate for Governor with very little chapter organization (other than in Kings and Onondaga Counties). The Green Party did nothing to improve its chapter organizations after Howie won it party status in 2010; let’s hope it does between now and 2018 before the opportunity is lost to charlatans like the people who rang the Wilders’ bell.

  7. Andy

    “Mark Axinn

    September 8, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    >Sounds like the work of scumbag mercenary petition circulators. The Libertarian Party leadership will probably want to hire these clowns if they haven’t already.

    No, Andy, it does not at all. It sounds like run of the mill Republican Party workers (who are also scumbags) trying to take over a smaller, weaker party.”

    The Republican Party frequently hires scumbag mercenary petitioners, as does everyone else who does petitions, including the Libertarian Party.

    “Please give it a fucking rest already.”

    Mark, have you heard about the latest bullshit from LP national? They have hired mercenary petitions in South Dakota who are WORKING TOP TWO PRIMARY right now, at the SAME TIME that they are working on Libertarian Party ballot access.

    Yes, that’s right, the LNC has started paying petition circulators who AT THE SAME TIME they are getting signatures to place Libertarian Party candidates on the South Dakota ballot, are also getting people to sign a TOP TWO PRIMARY petition that WILL TAKE LIBERTARIAN PARTY CANDIDATES OFF THE BALLLOT.

    I AM ASTOUNDED BY THIS.

    It would be funny if it were not so damn sad, although I imagine that our opponents in the Democratic and Republican parties are getting a good laugh over it.

  8. Andy

    ” They have hired mercenary petitions”

    Should read, “They have hired mercenary petition circulators…”

  9. Andy

    I never thought that I’d see the day when the Libertarian Party pays people to collect signatures who are also being paid AT THE SAME TIME to collect signatures on a petition that will PREVENT Libertarian Party candidates from appearing on the general election ballot, which is EXACTLY what Top Two Primary does.

    California and Washington passed Top Two Primary, or Top Two Tyranny as I like to call it, and it has screwed the Libertarian Party over royally in those states, and now the LNC is actually starting to pay people who are working to get Top Two Tyranny on the ballot in South Dakota.

    UN-FREAKING-BELIEVALBE.

    Then again, given the level of dysfunction in the LP, maybe I should not be surprised.

  10. Kimberly Wilder

    Thanks for the support and discussion on this issue. Interesting to hear that it also happened to the Working Families Party. Wish third party activists could fix all this stuff.

  11. bruuno

    Just an update on this story. Looks like the Greens beat back the GOP in the primary. Great job Green Party folks, especially the Wilders. Meanwhile in Southampton Town, where I live and the GOP did the same thing to us in the Working Families Party, the final vote was…2 to 2. Not joking, only 4 people showed up. The real WFP candidate (Adam Grossman) wins because law has the tie going to the Party Committee’s decision so we beat back the intruders there despite the turnout being embarrassingly low. I have never felt like my vote mattered more than today.

  12. Kimberly Wilder

    Dear Bruuno…Thanks for the kind words. We were interested to hear your stories from another third party. I do not think that we did win any of our primaries. For Family Court Judge, a Democrat-intruder won first place. The second slot may go to a Republican, though, there is a slim chance we won it on the write-ins. Not sure if the Green Party in Nassau or Suffolk beat back any of the major party “bandits”, as our state party called this group. Our fingers are crossed that the write-ins in two party races reflect the numbers a certain way, so that there is hope.

  13. Kimberly Wilder

    How valuable a third party line is: While we fought to save the integrity of the Green Party line, we learned just how valuable the Green line is. Several enrolled Greens received a full-color, full-page shiny flier from a group of three judge candidates in the mail. Two other judge candidates collaborated on another full-color flier. The night before the election, my parents, who are enrolled green, got an in-person visit with the three-judge-flier. And, the same night, my brother got a phone call from a Virginia number, lobbying for the campaign of William Ford (a major party intruder). My brother said the caller claimed to be affiliated with the Green Party. Also, the Democrat-intruder, Martha Luft, who won our primary for Family Court Judge, had members of her family making personal phone calls to greens. Her daughter called our home and was trying to convince my husband (the Secretary of the County Party) that what her mom was doing was innocent and correct. It did teach us the lesson that something the Green Party has must be worth fighting for.

  14. Mark Axinn

    >the final vote was…2 to 2. Not joking, only 4 people showed up.

    Wow. And I thought the LP was small…

  15. Kimberly Wilder

    Feeling sad for Bruuno’s Town of Southampton WFP vote which was only 4 people. But, Southampton is a small town. The Green Party votes in Suffolk had much higher numbers. Partly because the bad guys dumped money. Partly because us rebel-line-defenders rallied the troops. In fact, our write-in activity got the attention of at least one member of the regular press. Will post if more comes of that.

  16. paulie

    Personally, I think the best way to thwart it is to have strong local chapters in as many of the 62 counties as possible. The LPNY actually has decent organization in many major counties in the State, including Suffolk, but what we don’t have yet (as GP and WFP had) is 50,000 votes for Governor.

    It sounds like those are the two keys things here.

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