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Reports from sources inside the Constitution Party report that Joe Miller will be making his entrance into the Constitution Party’s presidential nomination race. His candidacy will begin in earnest sometime in the next few weeks. Informed sources say he will be well received within the Constitution Party.
Joe Miller is perhaps best known for running an insurgent campaign for U.S. Senate in Alaska in 2010. He was a former U.S. Magistrate Judge and Interior Regional Chairman of the Republican Party who ran against sitting Republican U.S. Senator Lisa Murkowski. To virtually everyone’s surprise, he won the primary, ousting her from her seat–or so everyone assumed. As the Republican nominee Joe Miller would face a statewide write-in campaign from Lisa Murkowski and a Democratic nominee, in addition to other minor party and independent opposition. Murkowski captured the seat again with 39.5% of the vote over his 35.5%. The Democrat ran a distant third at 23.5%
Miller raised more than $3.3 million during the course of this race and was considered a darling of the burgeoning Tea Party movement. He has certainly not been idle since that race ended–running in another Republican U.S. Primary race in 2014, finishing second after being outspend by a great deal, but finishing ahead of a former Lt. Governor in the state.
Currently, Joe Miller is a radio host who’s show is broadcast online and on a number of stations in Alaska as well as the owner of the Law Offices of Joseph W. Miller LLC. He keeps up a presence on social media, as well, maintaining a Twitter account with more than 10,000 followers and a Facebook account with more than 41,000 fans.
Miller has always been a Republican, but has always maintained interactions with right-wing third party members, allies, and figures. In his 2010 race, he was endorsed by former Alaskan Lieutenant Governor and Alaskan Independence Party member Jack Coghill. He was also endorsed by Alan Keyes, who in 2008 ran for the Constitution Party presidential nomination, lost, and then founded the America’s Independence Party. Todd Palin, a member of the Alaskan Independence Party and husband to Sarah Palin, was another endorser. His radio show has hosted Constitution Party stalwarts like author Jerome Corsi and attorney Herb Titus over the years.
Joe Miller is a West Point Graduate, U.S. Army veteran, a graduate of Yale Law School, and later earned a Master’s Degree in Economics from the University of Alaska, Fairbanks.
Big get for the CP. Not a huge name like Ron Paul or something, but a solid name with connections and respect in the far-right.
Isn’t it kind of late for someone to be jumping in? Isn’t the convention in a few days?
I wonder if Joe is fully aware of the CP’s baggage?
DJH, it’s basically a week from today. So, yes, it IS late in the process. The CP often works this way, though.
The Democrat candidate in that race was not a write-in.
OK- thanks for explaining it!
Joe Miller is a good man. He would’ve been a better Senator than Murkowski IMO. Depending on what positions he takes, he could be a more attractive alternative than Gary Johnson. However, I don’t think he’s preferable to the prospective candidate I discussed earlier today, who had served many years in elected office and was previously a very strong candidate for the Constitution Party.
William–that candidate had apparently previously burned bridges with the CP and was only considering running IF Trump wasn’t the nominee. Having a “Conditional” nominee based on the Republican nominee is BAD NEWS for third parties. the guy can drop out, recommend voters back someone else, etc.
Joe “East Berlin” Miller? Well, I guess he could appeal to Trump supporters if Cruz wins the Republican nomination. But if Trump wins I don’t see much daylight for him.
“William–that candidate had apparently previously burned bridges with the CP and was only considering running IF Trump wasn’t the nominee. Having a “Conditional” nominee based on the Republican nominee is BAD NEWS for third parties. the guy can drop out, recommend voters back someone else, etc.”
Tancredo is even worse. He derided third parties after his ACP run and returning to the Republicans. Sooner or later if you keep going back and forth neither side can or should trust you.
You really think Joe Miller will run against Trump? I doubt it.
With Trump currently sitting in a bad position in terms of upcoming states and delegates overall, I imagine part of Miller’s decision (and probably why he’s coming in so late) is that he knows Trump won’t win at the convention (which is likely going to be Cruz’s to lose).
He may be a placeholder for Trump as well.
Trump has a pretty solid lead in delegates and a lead in the polls in most of the remaining states. He’s got a good shot at the Republican nomination. The CP would be stupid to run a candidate who is unwilling to run against Trump. But then being stupid would not be unusual for them, and they deserve what they will get if Trump is nominated.
Trump’s lead is shakier than it might otherwise appear, because there are all kinds of tricks in the Republican presidential nomination process, and it seems many so-called Trump delegates are not really in favor of Trump. Cruz’s people know the convention rules better than Trump’s people.
Yes, I’ve read that. Also that Trump has hired Paul Manafort and will be hiring other experts to counter that. I’m not saying that he has the nomination sewn up, only that the CP would be dumb to go all in on a bet that Trump will not win the Republican nomination.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/trump-has-more-than-math-to-worry-about-in-cleveland-221657
Salient line from that link:
“It’s unclear, for now, how these battles will be decided.”
My point exactly.
William Saturn: Do you think that the CP would nominate Trump or that Trump would run as its nominee?
The national chair of the Constitution Party told me the Constitution Party has no interest in Trump. There is a large LDS contingent in the Constitution Party, and Trump seems to have alienated LDS members.
How recently did he tell you that?
March 2016
If the CP does, in fact, nominate Miller and then the GOP nominates Trump how likely is it that Miller would step aside to allow the CP natcomm to find a replacement nominee? Any intel on this possibility?
The only reason I remember this guy is because he did that “Meet The Joes” thing with 2 of the most awful political figures in recent memory- Joe The Plumber and Joe Arpaio. I don’t know if he really thought that was a good idea or just hoped to look capable and normal by comparison, but that was a laughable collection of nuts.
If I were the CP delegates, I would ask Mr. Miller to sign a pledge to actively campaign as the party’s nominee regardless of who the GOP nominates.
According to this entry @ ourcampaigns.com, Joe Miller endorsed a Constitution Party candidate for the Alaska state legislature in 2014 http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=792578
I would never vote for him because when he ran for Senator in 2010 he talked about how successful the Berlin Wall was. He was defending the idea of a wall to keep immigrants out. The Berlin wall was built to keep people in East Germany.
Of course, one reason there are so many undocumented immigrants staying in the US is that tougher immigration laws make it harder to cross the border seasonally. In the past people would come to the US to work, then go back and spend the money in Mexico. Now they are afraid that if they go back, it will be harder to get back into the United States. So a wall that would be built to keep people out will still have the effect of keeping people in the US. Since that is probably not what he wants, it just shows how confused he is about the issue.
There is no information about this on Miller’s Facebook page, so is this is a sure thing? Will Miller actually be in attendance at the CP convention?
I don’t think Miller would be a good fit with the CP at least when it comes to foreign policy. I doubt he’s anywhere close to an noninterventionist, he probably touts a similar line to Ted Cruz. Then again, the CP nominated Goode four years ago, so I suppose they can forego a few of their principles and nominate someone who already has a Wikipedia page. Miller at least seems like the type who’d run a better campaign than Goode (I’m just speculating since he secured strong performances in his two runs and had good fundraising), who ran a practically paper campaign that ended with a disastrous result.
Gene Berkman. – I think it is just you that is confused about the issue. Your point about a wall is that it will keep illegals in??? Even after they are deported and companies are fined for hiring them? There is an old saying you may not have heard. Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
I would live to see a patriot America loving individual like Joe run. Our country needs someone that not only loves the country but also can be trusted.
I am wondering where my friend Todd Palin (husband of Sarah Palin) stands on Joe Millers run for POTUS
against Dr. Don J. Grundmann at Salt Lake City, UT. It was in Anchorage, AK that I last spoke with Todd
Palin in a three way meeting between Todd Palin, Sean Parnell, and I.
Most of the meeting the talk was about the Russian activity on Wrangell Island, Alaska. The three of us were
having dinner together. Todd Palin and I, were doing most of the talking. Sean Parnell was just eating and
hearing a two way conversation. The Hon. Joe Miller is a good man, He is concerned about the territory
of Alaska going to Russia.
It was between June 2 through August 12, 1881, that five Arctic Islands became United States Territory,
viz., Bennett, Jeannette, Henrietta, Herald, and Wrangell, became United States Territory.
On May 17, 1884, Major Ezra W. Clark, an attorney with the United States Department of the Treasury
placed in the United States District of Alaska in the name of an internal board at the Treasury Department which handled “all issues relating to Alaska” place six island in Alaska, viz., the above five
Arctic Islands and the island name Forrester (just West of Dall Island) of the San Carlos Islands. Forrester
Island was South of 55 degrees North, so it was not included in the District of Alaska, prior to that date.
It is my understand now that Mr. Miller does not see importance on keeping Herald Island in Alaska.
I do however, do not want Herald Island to go to Putin. It was the United States Navy under an order
by the Secretary of the United States Navy from 1879 that Herald Island was annexed by Melville (later
Admiral in U. S. Navy) on June 2, 1881. Herald Island became part of Alaska on May 17, 1884, to get a
limited form of Civil Government.
Dr. Don Grundmann is claiming to be the Chairman of the Constitution Party of California. That is at the
same time that Mr. Gary Odom is also making that claim to the 338 California Electors in that Political
Body. Dr. Don Grundmann is running for the United States Senate as “No Party Preference” even though
he is registered as a member of the Constitution Party of California.
On February 24, 2015, Mr. Charles M. Deemer informed the California Secretary of State that a Political
Body was formed with him as it California State Chairman designated “Independent Party”. The SOS
has rejected that name because it is two close to the name “American Independent Party”. On February
16, 2016, the “Independent Party” and William “Bill” Lussenheide sued the California Secretary of State
over that name. The attorney they used is Mr. Robert Barnes who claimed in the case of KING v.
ROBINSON that he was Markham Robinson attorney, while Robenson has informed me he had no
retrospection of hiring him. Mr. Deemer also is a National Committeeman and Treasurer of the Constitution Party of California.. Marilyn Stevens claims she was elected Secretary – Treasurer of the
“Independent Party” at the same time she was registered to vote as an “American Independent Party”
elector. Marlyn Stevens lives with Gary Odom in Coarsgold, CA (she is his mother).
The last time I saw Marilyn Stevens was at a meal in Coarsgold, CA on April 23, 2007. At that time she
was a member of the State Central Committee of the American Independent Party. The first time I
viewed Mr. William “Bill” Lusssenheide was in Los Angeles in late June, 2008. At the time he was registered as a Republican, yet he seconded a resolution of Don Grundmann at a cabal meeting claiming
to be a convention of the American Independent Party. It was not until October 24, 2008, that William “Bill” Lussenheide re-registered as American Independent Party from the Republican Party.
Don Grundmann was elected as a “nominee delegate” to the Convention of the American Independent
Party in 2002. He served on the AIP State Central Committeee throught the date of September 2, 2008.
Therefore by September 3, 2008, Dr. Grundmann had no ties with the American Independent Party
other than his registration as an elector until April, 2015.
Cody, Is this part of the baggage you are writing about in your post!?
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Chairman, American Independent Party.
Seidenberg–should we take this to mean you wouldn’t consider nominating Joe Miller?
A couple of days ago, 3 to be specific, Joe Miller posted an article about the Hillary campaign with the following comment:
“Lot’s of pundits claim that neither Cruz nor Trump can beat Hillary. They cite the gender gap, Twitter-gate, and other factors.
“But then you see a story like this and you suddenly realize that any breathing Republican should be able to defeat Hillary – assuming the vote doesn’t get split.”
Honestly, does this sound like somebody about to jump into the race as a Independent or third-party candidate? To me it sounds like someone more focused on making sure that Hillary loses and that the GOP wins.
I will not be at Salt Lake City. That is an issue the Constitution Party needs to deal with. My talks with both
Hoefling and Myers show they do not want to give any Alaskan Islands away. From the statement that
Joe Miller made to Elmer Zink , I have a concern about the status view of Joe Miller related to the Alaska
Island named Herald Island.
The other issue deals with false claims of Dr. Don Grundmann about his connections to both the “Constitution Party of California” a Political Body of 338 California Electors on January 5, 2016 as
its Chairman from 2010, when he was registered in the American Independent Party until April, 2015.
Plus the American Independent Party of California. It is my understanding that Dr. Don Grundmann became a “nominee delegate” to the American Independent Party convention in 2002. That made him
a member of the State Central Committee in the year 2002 forward until his last day of September 2,
2008. It is events starting on September 3, 2008 has me concerned. Dr. Don Grundmann has claimed
he was elected in 2008 on three different dates that he was elected Vice Chairman of the American
Independent Party. Yet I was the elected Vice Chairman of the American Independent Party. Then in 2010 Dr. Don Grundmann claims that he was the Chairman of the “Real American Independent Party”.
Now we have Charles M. Deemer by letter dated February 24, 2015, claim that he was the California State
Chairman of the “Independent Party”. This is at a time that Charles M. Deemer is the Treasurer and National Committeeman of the Constitution Party of California, which has only 338 electors on January
5, 2016. The address for both the Constitution Party of California and the Independent Party is the same
Post Office Box in Torrence, CA. Marilyn Stevens (mother of Gary Odom) claims to be the Secretary-
Treasurer of the “Independent Party” at the same time she was registered in the “American Independent
Party” as an elector. In June, 2008, William “Bill” Lussenheide seconded a resolution at a bogus meeting
not authorized by the AIP state central committee, but called to order by a person that was not a member of the State Central Committee, yet claiming to be a meeting of the State Central Committee,
a resolution of purported affiliation with the Constitution Party introduced by State Central Committee
member Don J. Grundmann. At that time, William “Bill” Lussenheide was a registered Republican. He
did not become register in the AIP until October 24, 2008. Don Grundmann’s mother is a claimed
Vice Chairperson of the Constitution Party of California, yet Nathan Johnson was elected as Vice Chairman of that political body in October, 2014. Nathan Johnson is a former Chairperson of the
American Independent Party of California when Don Grundmann became a “nominee delegate” to
the 2002 AIP convention.
I would like to me a fly on the wall at credentials at Salt Lake City. Will the credential committee seat
Grundmann, Odom, Lussenheide, and company from California with all that baggage.
I will not be at Salt Lake City, so I could not nominate anyone.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Chairman, American Independent Party of California
I was asking if you would nominate Joe Miller as Presidential candidate for the AIP in California.
Trent Hill
It would take Joe Miller to make such a request. However, first thing first. He should run in California
Primary and needs to get signatures for running. He needs a campaign committee first. He needs
a list of 88 delegates.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Chairman, American Independent Party of California.
Will you consider nominating Donald Trump?
The son of god (no, not Him) is also running for the CP nomination. Check out his campaign video (and watch all the way to the end to see his Striped Tomato. “Zebra Three, over.”
https://www.facebook.com/HouseOfGod2/videos/2021138038112420/
The CP needs to stop looking outside of itself for a knight in shining armor. It is imperative that we development leadership from within. Develop our state affiliates. Focus on ballot access. Promote ourselves more effectively to the media. Market ourselves to the upcoming generations. Push for debate inclusion. There is no substitute for on the ground grassroots efforts. I call upon all CP members and leaders to act honorably. We must support our own, or face rapid disintegration. Peace Out!
P.S. I have spoken to Joe. He told me he will be joining the CP and registering for the CP Convention. He then spoke of the need for party building as the GOP implodes. I welcome all such people of good faith into the CP. I also told him that although I will not drop out of the race, Alaska would be willing to be one of two CP state delegations needed to sponsor his nomination. We shall see. Salt Lake City here we come!
http://www.examiner.com/article/confirmed-joe-miller-leaves-gop-running-for-constitution-party-nomination
A question is where does the Hon. Joe Miller stand related to the Alaska Arctic island named Herald.
On May 17, 1884, Major Ezra W. Clark as an attorney for an internal board of the United States Department
of the Treasury that deals with all issues relating to Alaska, place six islands into the United States District of Alaska, viz., Bennett, Forrester (of the San Carlos Islands), Henrietta, Herald, Jeannette, and Wrangell.
Bennett, Henrietta, & Jeannette Islands are in the DeLong Islands. Forrester Island is West of Dall Island
and was excluded from the territory transferred to the United States under the Treaty of Washington
(Alaska Treaty) of 1867, because it was not with the claimed territory of Tsar Paul in 1799, viz., territory
to the North of 55 degrees with the exception of Prince of Wales Island, that extended farther South.
It was thought at the time of 1824/1825 that Prince of Wales Island ran South to 54 degrees 40 minutes
North. However, that was a mapping error. It did not go that far South. That is part of the current
dispute between Alaska and Canada at the Dixon Entrance.
It was on June 2, 1881, that Chief Engineer George Wallace Melville, U. S..N. at Cape Melville on Henrietta
Island of the DeLong Islands, AK annexed three islands in the Arctic Ocean in the name of the Government of the United States, viz., Henrietta, Herald, & Jeannette. Henrietta, Jeannette, and Bennett
Islands are located in the DeLong Islands. Herald Island is in the Arctic Ocean to the East of Wrangell
Island, and was discovered by the British Royal Navy in July, 1849. However, George Wallace Melville
annexed Herald Island on an order issued by the United States Secretary of the Navy in 1879. Melville
annexation was done as a direct order of the Secretary of the Navy.
it is my current understanding is Joe Miller thinks the case for Herald Island is weak. I think Joe Miller needs to explain why he takes that view, because Chief Engineer Melville, U.S.N. carried out what he believed was a lawful order of the Secretary of the Navy on June 2, 1881?
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Chairman, American Independent Party of California.
It should be noted that the total number of Presidential Electors the Constitution Party has access to is 118.
That is way short of 270 electors. Therefore, the Constitution Party current plan is to send the election
of POTUS and VPOTUS to the House of Representatives. and the Senate.
On the other hand both Tom Hoefling and J. R. Myers have a shot at 55 additional presidential electors
from California, because unlike the Constitution Party of California, under the Chairmanship of Dr.
Don Grundmann and Vice Chairpersonship of Don Grundmann’s mommy, AIP has ballot access, i do not think they will get ballot access by the July 11, 2016 cut off date. Don Grundmann is not running under the label Constitution Party or American Independent Party for the United States Senate. He is running
as NPP, what a loser! The Constitution Party has been in a registration drive since October 11, 2014.
and in a year they went from 325 to 338, a plus gain of 13 electors. They need about 57.000 to get
ballot qualified.
What does Joe Miller going to do about getting access in California and other states not covered under
the wings of the Constitution Party?
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Chairman, American Independent Party.of California
What I find fascinating is that Mr. Myers is welcoming Joe Miller with open arms at the last possible moment prior to the CP convention and yet in another thread on this website, Mr Myers denounced fellow CP Presidential candidate Mr. Hoefling in no uncertain terms.
Mr. Myers suggests that Mr. Miller will be joining the CP for the first time and talks about acting honorably, yet he has been rude to Mr. Hoefling and ignored an opportunity offered by the CP Chairman of Texas, Mr. Daniel New, to debate Mr. Hoefling.
Mr. Hoefling has been a member of the CP a lot longer than Mr. Miller, has acted with honor by speaking with CP leaders throughout the nation before beginning a campaign that has included participation in two debates and trips to multiple states to meet with party leaders in person. Furthermore, if Iowa is to even be recognized as an affiliate by the CP at the convention or gain ballot access prior to Nov., it will be in no small part due to the efforts of Mr. Hoefling and his supporters. None of which should diminish Mr. Hoefling’s prior contributions to the CP going back 20 years in several states, CA and ID that I’m aware of.
While many of us would welcome Mr. Miller into the campaign, despite his last minute participation, if Mr. Myers would like to continue lecturing everyone about “acting with honor”, perhaps he could start by apologizing to Mr. Hoefling for his rude comments on this site. That act would go a very long ways towards ensuring that this week’s convention is civil and doesn’t result in the “rapid disintegration” of the CP that he claims to fear.
If not, then Mr. Myers will be contributing to the destruction of the CP that he claims would be caused by outsiders.
Act honorably Mr. Myers! Publicly apologize to Mr. Hoefling, so we can all move forward and have an outstanding convention in SLC.
PS. Mr. Seidenberg, does your electoral math include recent updates from SD and GA?
Can-do-Texan
Yes!
The Baker Agreement of 1990 is at issue here. It has a base point on Herald Island. Therefore, continue
Alaskan control of Herald Island is important. Joe Miller should clear the issue on Herald Island.
Apparently, Mr. Miller surveyed the field, and has decided NOT to seek the Constitution Party’s nomination, in an email sent out this morning.
@ Can-Do.
Nobody owes Hoefling anything.
I really did not want to do an biopsy on the tumor of “manna money” that Mr. Hoefling alludes to (his bait for the gullible). The fellow is not worth more waste of time.
However, as to Mr. Hoefling’s tumor, an ordinary forensic accounting review reveals clear malignancy. Perhaps the FEC may want to verify these test results.
I will leave the results with this cryptic albeit obvious statement… “$62.47”!
Signed,
Bridge Salesman for Brooklyn
Mr. Whitley, could you forward the e-mail about Joe Miller to me at wssaturn@gmail.com ?
BAN has already reported on what Floyd is talking about-
http://ballot-access.org/2016/04/12/joe-miller-decides-not-to-seek-constitution-party-presidential-nomination/
I’m happy to hear Darrell Castle is back in the running. He seems like a good man to me even though I don’t agree with all his positions. With all the infighting in the LP perhaps he will emerge as the alternative to Hillary and The Donald.
I think you confuse “infighting” for a typical political party primary. Once the LP has its national convention and picks a presidential candidate, expect the LP to unite around that candidate… As long as they pick a good one.
Besides, I highly doubt the CP’s infighting on religious & social issues has gone away completely.