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Liveblog – Libertarian Party of Tennessee (and NH? Other States?) 1/11/20

I’m at the 2020 Tennesee Libertarian state convention and as usual when I am at these things will attempt to liveblog in the comments. Getting here late so I missed some of the early parts of the schedule posted above but will piece things together as best I can. If anyone can add additional comments, links to photos or video or coverage anywhere else please join me in the comments.

In addition to the schedule above there will also be a gala at 6:30 featuring speeches from some of the candidates seeking the presidential nomination among other people.

NH also has their state convention this weekend so if anyone wants to liveblog from there you can use this thread also, or if any of our editors are there, feel free to set up your own thread. Those are the only state conventions I know of this weekend. If there are any others I don’t know about same rules apply.

Coverage will be in the comments below, on the website, not in the post. If you are getting a link through email or social media follow it to the website and look at the comments there.

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  1. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    LPTN: Currently discussing bylaws change proposals

  2. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    From JBH thread (also developing live, link above)

    Joe Enroughty Where is Lincoln Chafee? Is he not participating?

    · Reply · 2m

    Paulie Cannoli
    Paulie Cannoli He’s supposed to be in Tennessee tonight. I was told he is in NH this morning

    · Reply · 1m

    Nicholas J. Sarwark
    Nicholas J. Sarwark Flying to Tennessee to be at their convention as well.


    · Reply · 1m

    Joe Enroughty
    Joe Enroughty Was hoping he’d be able to stick around long enough for the debate and then head to TN. But I do know how schedules must be kept. Thanks for letting me know.

    · Reply · 1m

    Paulie Cannoli
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    Conor Rogers
    Conor Rogers Where’s Linc?!

    · Reply · 1m

    Paulie Cannoli
    Paulie Cannoli

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    Paulie Cannoli
    Paulie Cannoli So far have seen Kokesh and Hornberger in TN and said hello to Kokesh

    · Reply · 1m

    Paulie Cannoli
    Paulie Cannoli Spike Cohen for VP is in TN

  3. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    60 something voting attendees in TN

  4. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Plus a number of guests from various campaigns and states so maybe 80-something in the room?

  5. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    4 bylaws proposals are being voted on

  6. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    NH: reportedly ten presidential candidates in their forum.

  7. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    LPTN passed state dues which they did not have before

  8. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Steve Nekhaila, Region 2 LNC rep (seeking another term) giving speech

  9. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Bylaws finished faster than expected so schedule was changed to move some or all of the speeches to now rather than 4 something PM. Next speech is Paige Sexton, Region 2 LNC alternate and TN resident (marries since she was elected, maiden name Lee). Says she will now run for LNC At Large.

  10. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    LPTN passed state dues which they did not have before. I did not follow closely enough to catch what the other three bylaws were, what passed and what did not. Anyone else catch it?

  11. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Drew Helmsetter (sp?) speech on behalf of Mike Shipley for LNC chair.

  12. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Via JBH blog

    And people think Chaffee isn’t qualified compared to these clowns

    · Reply · 17m

    Paulie Cannoli
    Paulie Cannoli It depends on what you consider the important qualifications to be

    · Reply · 14m

    Brad Lowry
    Brad Lowry The ability to receive national mainstream media coverage when they announce their run for one..

    That immediately disqualifies the rest of the city council race.

    · Reply · 11m

    Paulie Cannoli
    Paulie Cannoli If that’s the only criteria which matters, just co-nominate the nominees of the major parties. Or pass a bylaw that their top runner up becomes the LP nominee. Or something like that.

    · Reply · 9m

  13. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Next speech is Spike Cohen for VP, Vermin Supreme running mate

  14. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    From my post in Alabama Libertarians FB group introducing him:

    This guy says he can run vice in the entire part of North America claimed as its turf by the US Government gang even better than the current Capo of Vice, Mike Pence, or whichever candidate the Democratic Crime Family picks for the position. There are also some other Libertarian Party candidates seeking the VP nod, including John Phillips Jr. who is teamed up with running mate Kim Ruff.

    If you would like to help pick the Libertarian candidate to run all the vice rackets in Middle North America for the next 4-8 years you must be a delegate at the at the end of May this year. If you would like to represent Alabama the first step is to attend and get voted in as a delegate there.

  15. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Sarah Daggers: Will you give serious answers?
    Cohen: I mostly give serious answers. Vermin is mostly satire; I’m mostly serious.

    Daggers: Will you run for VP if Supreme is not the nominee?
    Cohen: Top choice is Supreme; if not, would like to see a real libertarian and separate the wheat from the Chafee. Will be honored to serve as VP candidate if delegates pick him (even without Supreme at top of ticket).

    Kokesh is next.

  16. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Kokesh getting applause lines with libertarian fire and brimstone sloganeering one liners.

  17. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Kokesh giving out complimentary books and his phone number.

  18. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Next speech Souraya Faas for candidate via video link. Was not able to be here due to weather.

  19. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Joe Hauptmann speech for Jo Jorgensen. Kim Ruff is here also and will be speaking.

  20. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Campaign goal is to bring in more new party members than Harry Browne and help down ticket candidates.

  21. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Also repping Boomer Pride.

  22. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Young people: OK Boomer

    Jorgensen campaign: OK, Boomers are OK!

  23. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Additional speeches after lunch.

  24. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Will return 2 pm central

  25. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Hauptmann clarified that Jorgensen voted in favor of the national platform sex work plank. There has been some controversy because she said in SC debate that she would not discuss that issue as a candidate.

  26. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    We are back from lunch. Not gavelled yet but soon to be.

  27. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Joe Bishop-Henchman
    Admin · 1 hr

    New Hampshire LP presidential straw poll, top ten:
    Vermin Supreme – 26
    Kim Ruff – 22
    Jo Jorgensen – 17
    NOTA – 13
    Dan Berhman – 13
    Jacob Hornberger – 9
    Sam Robb – 8
    Arvin Vohra – 6
    Mark Whitney – 6
    Lincoln Chafee – 4

  28. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Kim Ruff speaking now

  29. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Ruff/Phillips dropping out

  30. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Kim just announced that on the mic. She actually told me before lunch but I wanted to not scoop her announcement at the mic.

    · Reply · 3m

    Paulie Cannoli
    Paulie Cannoli She had not told me that include John but she did just say that.

    · Reply · 2m

    Paulie Cannoli
    Paulie Cannoli No endorsement except choose someone fearless and unrelenting in representing our principles.

    · Reply · 2m

    Dan Faust
    Dan Faust Much love to both of the principled candidates. John Phillips Jr.

    · Reply · 1m

    Paulie Cannoli
    Paulie Cannoli Standing ovation

    · Reply · 1m

    Paulie Cannoli
    Paulie Cannoli Endorses Spike Cohen for VP

    · Reply · 1m

    Dan Faust
    Dan Faust Paulie Cannoli Most definitely deserved! I love that BOTH of them were uncompromising on the LP Platform and ideals, unlike some candidates!!!!


    · Reply · 1m

    Paulie Cannoli
    Paulie Cannoli Hornberger is speaking next

  31. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Hornberger: libertarian fire and brimstone, but less one lineish than Kokesh, more policy-detailed.

  32. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Hornberger campaigning among black voters for NC primary, reports he is connecting well with voters.

  33. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    John Phillips Jr. The last year and a half have been a busy and exciting journey.

    What started with the desire of a couple regular people to show that a strong, principled, Libertarian message could be presented in a positive way that the public could understand and get behind without compromising on core values. Started with the belief that the Presidential and VP candidates should there to build up and support down ballot candidates, not the opposite that we have seen before.

    We incredulously watched as that desire and belief built into a movement. A movement that reached across the internal divisions and the many caucuses of our party, building an incredibly strong team of hundreds of volunteers from wildly disparate groups. A movement that found thousands of supporters from all walks of life, reaching across party lines to bring in democrats, republicans, independents, and even traditional non-voters who all found a message of principled liberty to be something they could get behind and believe in.

    We went from thinking that we didn’t stand a chance, but had to try, to being among, if not THE, front runners. We saw conversations change as our points took root. We fought through adversity, celebrated successes, and our amazing team made it all possible. Our team that has become family carried us through, pushed us on, shared our tears, and cheered our successes. Successes that they were largely responsible for.

    Now comes the hard part. I am writing today, with great regret to inform everyone that Kim Ruff and I are withdrawing from the POTUS/VP race. This was an extremely difficult decision that we agonized over. The feeling that we are letting down our team and supporters is heartbreaking.

    However, both of us have experienced substantial turmoil in our personal lives requiring enough of our focus that we will not be able give a national campaign the amount of time needed to push a serious campaign of that magnitude. As painful as it is, we cannot in good conscience continue knowing that we would not be able to give the campaign the full devotion it needs to be successful. To do so would be a disservice to our team, and perhaps even damaging to the cause of Liberty and the LP brand, which is unacceptable to us.

    In my case the big issue is the declining health of my father. I will be trying to spend more time with him, help with issues that arise, handle the business he and I are partners in, support my mother, and generally focus on family.

    We are not going away. We will still be active. Kim and I will continue to fight for liberty, including keeping much of our team intact to help down ballot candidates, help with ballot access issues, and various activism as well as tackling issues seen in our local communities.

    We will not be endorsing another candidate at this time. Most of them have earned our respect in many ways, so we will wish the best for them all. We have striven to maintain positive interactions between the campaigns, and hope they will continue this going forward rather than lapse into the negativity that is so common in politics these days.

    Thank you for all your support, it has been incredible and humbling.

    John Phillips

  34. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Candidates for local office, I believe. First one is Paul Butler. I was typing about previous speeches so didn’t catch what he is running for or which district.

  35. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    City Commissioner. I think the town name is Fairview, TN.

  36. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Trisha Butler, Clarksville TN

  37. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    David Tyler – another city council. I did not catch the town name.

  38. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Paul Butler nominated without opposition. Trisha Butler (as far as I know unrelated) as well. Same with David Tyler for Eastridge City Council. 5 min break.

  39. Thomas Knapp Thomas Knapp January 11, 2020

    I got as many votes for president as Sarwark or Kokesh, and 1/4th as many as Chafee. Perhaps I should throw my hat in the ring, just so I can get an authentic Vermin boot-print on my face!

  40. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Some guy named Tom Napp got that vote. Are you sure you are him? 🙂

  41. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    I don’t see why not though. Might as well, LOL.

  42. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Josh Eakle (state chair) picked as head of delegation to national convention. Now getting nominations for their other 22 delegates to national. I am not going to keep up with this, especially since I would probably butcher spelling on many of the names.

  43. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Nekhaila – update on what LNC is doing and planning.

  44. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Next up – series of speakers on LPTN legislative agenda

  45. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    First up: David Harriston – Safe Access Tennessee – Decriminalization (Cannabis)

  46. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Drew Lonegran on Civil Asset Forfeiture

  47. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Eugene Se’bree: Ranked Choice Tennessee

  48. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Daniel Lewis on ballot access history. The schedule had Justin Cornett on jury nullification before him so they either changed the order or that presentation is not happening.

  49. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Alicia Dearn on Ballot Access Litigation

  50. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    She is on video. Was planning to be here but was unable to due to personal reasons.

  51. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Justin Cornett on Jury Nullification now

  52. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Adjourned, shutting down; will liveblog gala if the setup allows it but it may not. Will deadblog later as time allows.

  53. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    Tom Arnold, Kim Ruff, Spike Cohen, Adam Kokesh and Lincoln Chafee spoke at the gala. There was also an auction of dad bod calendars and a CBD basket.

  54. paulie paulie January 11, 2020

    ^ W/ Spike Cohen

  55. paulie paulie January 13, 2020

    If anyone has any comments, photos, videos, links etc please add here. I’ll try to come back and add more later ; any corrections also welcome.

  56. paulie paulie January 13, 2020

    Richard Manzo

    We kinda ran the table here in New Hampshire today:

    Vermin won the primary
    Brian Shields was re-elected as Chair
    I was re-elected as Vice Chair
    Our solid in-the-bag Vermin delegates were all elected
    Spencer Dias and myself were selected as Presidential Electors to the US Electoral College
    etc etc etc

    Thank you

  57. paulie paulie January 13, 2020

    Joshua Reed Eakle
    Admin · 1 hr

    LPTN’s 2020 candidates:

    Trisha M. Butler for Clarksville City Council

    David Tyler for East Ridge City Council

    Paul Butler for Fairview City Commission

  58. paulie paulie January 13, 2020

    Tom Arnold
    2 hrs

    For those that asked, Gala speech from the convention.
    Henry David Thoreau — ‘I was not born to be forced. I will breathe after my own fashion. Let us see who is the strongest.’

    “Folks ask, Tom, why can’t you be more pragmatic?
    Here’s why.
    I am an 8th generation Tennessean.The blood of indentured servants, Welsh preachers, over mountain men, longhunters, and yeoman farmers runs through my veins. Rough men and women who adapted to hard conditions, suffered loss, bore immeasurable burdens, those individuals who sought a new life.They came not to accumulate great wealth, but provide a living for their families.
    They didn’t come with the idea of establishing some great nation, or even a nation at all.
    They came for personal liberty, and were willing to spit in the eye of those who would rule over them.
    They bled, they starved, they persisted, they survived.
    They lived pure.
    They lived uncompromising.
    They lived free.

    Among Libertarians, I am labeled an anarchist, a radical, and most often a purist.
    I readily embrace all of those labels.
    For purity of principle is the primary thing that sets us apart from the duopoly, and has from our beginning.
    It’s not pandering, pragmatism, nor moderation, some want, that defines us as Libertarian.
    Rather it’s that pure message that’s provided the political influence to see some of our principles adopted, not just by other parties, but by the people.

    Today major debates in the LP seems to always center on two things:
    Principle vs Pragmatism and Message and the Messenger.

    Principle vs Pragmatism.
    That’s a completely silly debate, for our Principles are at the very essence highly Pragmatic.
    And it’s the Statement of Principles, that provides us with clear messages that should resonate with a vast majority of the citizenry.
    “We, the members of the Libertarian Party, challenge the cult of the omnipotent state and defend the rights of the individual.
    We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose.”

    “[We} hold that where governments exist, they must not violate the rights of any individual; namely,
    (1)the right to life – accordingly we support prohibition of the initiation of physical force against others;
    (2) the right to liberty of speech and action – accordingly we oppose all attempts by government to abridge the freedom of speech and press, as well as government censorship in any form;
    and the right to property – accordingly we oppose all government interference with private property, such as confiscation, nationalization, and eminent domain, and support the prohibition of robbery, trespass, fraud, and misrepresentation.”
    Is there anything in those statements that you couldn’t use in a conversation with the average citizen? I think many of us believe that the vast majority of the populace are dumb. That those who choose not to participate in the electoral process are disinterested.
    And that is entirely incorrect.
    Recently, Spike Cohen and Brent Deridder did doorknocking in some of the most economically depressed neighborhoods of Wilmington, North Carolina. Surprisingly they found many individuals in those communities that were highly receptive to the Libertarian message. Folks who rather than showing disinterest were instead excited that someone other that the two stale old parties were making the effort to communicate, but also that the message they were sharing resonated with them.
    I believe the real issue is we spend entirely too much time debating among ourselves rather than taking our message to the streets.
    And that brings me to the message vs the messenger.
    Moreso than name recognition, political office, financing, or notoriety, Liberty demands its Messenger be unyielding in its delivery, made credible by the character of its mouthpiece. Liberty is the name we should recognize.
    Libertarian Party is the vehicle by which we get there. How can we convince others to believe in our message, if we cannot believe in our Messenger?”
    Liberty Claus

  59. paulie paulie January 29, 2020

    I wasn’t able to liveblog in Georgia due to lack of available power outlets. Did a little bit in the open thread from my phone. Will see what the outlet situation is like this Saturday in Mississippi. I’ll also be at the Alabama convention Feb 28-Mar 1 but as the sitting/outgoing secretary I won’t be able to liveblog. Although, my minutes could take that form I guess, we’ll see. At this point no other convention travel plans other than national.

  60. Thomas Knapp Thomas Knapp January 29, 2020

    Do they even HAVE electrical outlets in Mississippi and Alabama?

  61. paulie paulie January 29, 2020

    Apparently so, since I would not be able to transmit this comment to you otherwise.

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