Posted at http://knappster.blogspot.com/2010/04/tale-of-two-waynes.html by Tom Knapp:
Wayne Allyn Root, February 14th, 2010:
“People ask me: “You’re running for national Chair, will you run for President in 2012?’ Let me give you an honest answer: I think this party right now is too disorganized to ever do well in a presidential election. And I don’t think, until I can get elected chairman and build it and organize it and be CEO of this party for a few years, I don’t think it’s worth it running for president, or senator, or anything else — you’ll get 1% of the vote. I want to seriously run for president, after I’ve been national Chair, in 2016, after I’ve built this party, and we really are structured and organized, and I have a chance to actually get 5, 10, 15 million votes.
That statement occurs at about 4 minutes, 30 seconds into this video, taken at the California Libertarian Party’s 2010 state convention.
[hat tips — Independent Political Report and California Freedom]
Wayne Allyn Root, date as yet undetermined:
I’m the Libertarian vice-presidential candidate, be the presidential candidate in 2012, and hope to be the Ross Perot of 2012.
Later in the same video …
I was the vice-presidential nominee in 2008. I plan to be the presidential nominee in 2012.
The video above was uploaded to YouTube on March 29th, a month and a half after the California LP convention speech.
I’ve written to the video’s creator to find out when the interview took place. It’s possible that that was before the California convention speech — possible, but not likely, and certainly not long before that speech.
How can I know that? Simple: In the interview, Wayne references the financial collapse of Greece, and he does so in a tone that indicates he expects the viewer to know what he’s talking about. While there have been low-key rumblings about Greece’s debt load and economy for years, the matter didn’t become a major news story until late February or early March of 2010.
So, is Wayne Allyn Root running for the Libertarian Party’s 2012 presidential nomination or not? There seem to two extant, mutually exclusive answers to the question floating around out there … and unfortunately Wayne himself can’t be trusted to answer the question truthfully.
Wayne Allyn Root will be on http://www.610wtvn.com today @ 3P (eastern).
Don’t worry, it’s over your head 🙂
🙂
Quack! quack!
(I said take a whiz and a dump in duh lake. Heh heh. Funny that a duck should say that…)
Huh ????????????? Lake
Of course I’m not (D)Lake. Did somebody say I was?
But I’ll take a whiz and a dump in one any day of the week….
With LOVE, of course!
Donald Duck, L-TX
Disney’s Donald Duck
is not
Don Lake ………..
paulie // Apr 10, 2010:
“Bruce Cohen says this article was already posted at IPR. I am not finding it. ”
get a hint, get a hint: he joins Knapp, Phillies, Root, Handcock and non LP ctweber, Quirk, Grundmann, Nightingale —— say one thing, do another, recount it a third way.
[All documented, TPW and Ballot – Access and IPR!]
[ask Zionist (his public profession!) Cohen ’bout the USS Liberty ……….]
#6
Does that mean that you are sorry that you are not going to work or that you are sorry and you are not going to work?
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
WARbots are tasty, I have chunks of them in my stool 🙂
LOVE r3volution not W.A.R…….
Now that Boortz has been booted, maybe WAR can be next!
I am sorry but Phillies is not going to do it. I can predict we will be no where further than where we are now if Phillies is chair.
Holtz can talk of “metrics,” but both Root and his supporters will claim that Root has met whatever vague “metrics” he’s called for should he decide to run for president in 2012.
Root will say and do whatever promotes his personal career as a media pundit and wealth-builder infomercial huckster.
If libertarians want to win about 50% of their ballots & want to participate in progressive/radical change in America, then they will choose Prof. Phillies for Chair. Then they will endorse PLAS/FET/FDS for 2010 as prelude to 2012. In 2012 they will choose a radical or PLAS Independent ticket. If they want to be GOP/government lackeys & politics as usual, they will choose W.A.R.
Bruce Cohen says this article was already posted at IPR. I am not finding it. Does anyone know when and where it was posted here, if it was?
Thanks, Brian.
I’m aware that Wayne has said this.
What I don’t know is whether Tom is correct in speculating that Wayne has said the opposite elsewhere after saying essentially the same thing at the California convention.
I think Tom’s question is legitimate, although I am not going to presume to know the answer, nor presume any nefariousness on Wayne’s part.
From IPR’s interview with Root this week:
IPR: You?ve said that your latest plan is to not seek the LP presidential nomination for 2012 because the LP isn?t ready. Are there any concrete metrics that you would use to decide when the LP is ready?
ROOT: If the Citizen Revolution really catches fire in the 2012 cycle, and the LP is unified and organized enough to lead it and leverage it, then we could see LP voter registration and sustaining membership increase dramatically, and 50-state ballot access would be within reach. That would be one way to know that the LP is ready for the kind of presidential race I want the LP to run. More likely is that I can lead this party to minor victories on the local and state level, and major improvements in a variety of metrics: fundraising, candidate training, media appearances, brand recognition, ballot access, excitement from college students, etc. If I can help to achieve this kind of slow but steady success for the next 4 to 6 years, this might just provide the perfect window of opportunity for me to run as President in 2016. Until then, I?m thrilled and focused on being the CEO.
IPR: If you are elected Chair and the LP makes more progress than you anticipated, do you promise to resign as Chair as soon as you decide to seek the 2012 nomination?
ROOT: I?d IMMEDIATELY announce that I?m taking a leave of absence. Obviously it is a conflict of interest to do both.