William Saturn is an IPR contributor. He published the following on The Saturnalian on August 25th, 2016:
Dear Florida Libertarians,
This is citizen journalist William Saturn. I am writing to convince you to vote in the August 30 primary to make Augustus Sol Invictus your next nominee for U.S. Senate. Admittedly, I am not a member of your party, though I hold it in high esteem. I consider myself libertarian politically and often vote for Libertarian Party candidates in my home state of Texas. Furthermore, I am well-versed in the history and ideology of the party, having covered it extensively for the last eight years as a contributor to Wikinews, Independent Political Report, and American Third Party Report. I rarely endorse candidates for office but when one as bright as Augustus comes along, I make an exception.
Augustus is a dedicated campaigner, a gifted orator, and, most importantly, a principled advocate for liberty. Those are the traits that will enable him to mount a vigorous run in the general election to provide the voters of Florida with a credible third option to the Republican and Democratic nominees.
Ever since Augustus announced his candidacy last year, he has campaigned relentlessly. He has traveled throughout the state, participated in forums and interviews in print and radio, and everywhere he goes, he sticks to the consistent message that our country is in need of a revolution. Not a revolution of big government as Bernie Sanders espouses, but a revolution of liberty that will dramatically decrease the role of government and restore our natural rights. Augustus’ internet campaign is also effective. Through his “Fireside chat” podcasts, he updates voters on campaign activities and discusses important political issues. All of these addresses are cataloged on Augustus’ campaign website. They provide an intimate look at the candidate, as if he is speaking personally with each listener, allowing him to articulate his points in a clear, concise manner. We need a clear messenger to reach out to voters. Augustus’ skill in oration is one very few candidates possess.
Augustus’ public speeches are among the best I’ve seen from a political candidate. Videos and transcripts are widely available online. These speeches empower audiences through rhetorical flare, which captures the essence of what it means to be libertarian. Take for instance, the speech he gave in April at your party’s state convention. He compared the government to a slave master and us citizens as its slaves, a perfect metaphor. As slaves, we hand over our hard-earned cash to our master, the government, and are bound by its self-serving rules and regulations. Liberty is the only way to break free. This liberty is what Augustus advocates. As a consequence, the good slaves or so-called “house negroes”, comfortable with their enslavement, use political correctness to do their master’s bidding to silence voices of liberty like Augustus. We need his voice now more than ever and you can unmuzzle him by making him your party’s nominee for Senate.
While Augustus speaks the message of liberty masterfully, his actions speak even louder. In the real world, he fights for liberty every day. As a criminal defense attorney, one of the noblest professions, Augustus helps those at risk of losing their liberty. His work is to ensure that the accused are afforded their constitutional right to defend against the claims of government. Augustus defends all-comers, be it victims of the government’s drug war or those who society itself has blacklisted. Take the case of the American Front. Augustus zealously defended, on free speech grounds, Diane Stevens and Dustin Perry, who were arrested in Florida simply for their connections to the group. The government had declared American Front as a “domestic terrorist” group based on its ideology of white supremacy. Though the defendants faced a strict sentence if found guilty, Augustus secured their freedom and thus defeated the government’s attempted infringement of free speech. Augustus took a principled and commendable stance to defend the rights of the unpopular. This is needed in a Senate where politicians pick favorites and do not treat all Americans as equal under the law. Augustus’ willingness to advocate for all-comers shows that he will be a Senator with aims toward liberty for all.
We do not know whether Augustus’ primary opponent, Paul Stanton, shares any of Augustus’ traits. What we do know is that Stanton was unwilling to debate Augustus one-on-one. A debate would have provided the voters a fair contrast of the candidates on which to base their vote. All we can do is speculate as to why Stanton refused a debate. Perhaps he is a poor public speaker. Perhaps he lacks passion for liberty or understanding of political issues. Hopefully, he did not refuse on the assumption voters would reject Augustus based on false rumors and religious bigotry.
Whatever his reason, Stanton’s refusal to debate speaks volumes about his dedication. On the other hand, Augustus’ record proves he will fight for liberty in the general election, just as he fights for liberty in this election, and fights for the liberty of his clients in the courtroom.
The choice, Florida Libertarians, is in your hands. Give yourselves a chance this November and vote for Augustus Sol Invictus.
Thank you,
William Saturn
Andy,
Thank you for adding some explanatory words to your above two videos. You and I have nothing but WIlliam Saturn’s words to judge him by. I find his words to be sufficient.
Chuck Moulton> I don’t like the iconography that is a dog whistle to hateful fascists and white supremacists — and not a very well concealed one at that. Cut it out.
Augustus Invictus has had his campaign logo tattooed on his back. It is clear he isn’t going to drop his use of it because some people don’t care for it.
https://www.facebook.com/InvictusForSenate/posts/567342510090245
To me the hateful fascists are those that support actively or passively the involvement of the US government via military and monetary involvement in the rebellions of other countries. It has caused the deaths of untold thousands of innocents with little to no benefit.
langa wrote:
I agree.
I’m an atheist, so I find all religions equally ridiculous. Drinking goat’s blood is no more silly than drinking the blood and eating the body of Jesus at mass. Judging someone for their unusual religious beliefs smacks of bigoted intolerance to me.
I don’t fault any attorney for defending unpopular clients. We have an advesarial legal system and everyone deserves vigorous, competent representation. I admire lawyers who seek free speech and free association rights — especially of those who need it the most because they are disfavored in society. You should be able to defend a bigot or a murderer or a jerk in court without being tarred by association as any of those things.
I like that the candidate has apparently changed some of his crazier unlibertarian views like eugenics — judging by changes in his platform and website. I don’t like that he is pretending he never had those views or discarded them long ago — as if we don’t know how to use Google or do basic research. He seems to have a low opinion of his potential supporters’ intelligence. Own your mistakes and move on.
I don’t like the iconography that is a dog whistle to hateful fascists and white supremecists — and not a very well concealed one at that. Cut it out.
All that said, I admire his passion and drive.
It’s not a black and white thing… most candidates and most people are a mixed bag.
Yes. You got it all figured out. But don’t worry, the one true God will eventually destroy me as your second video suggests.
Andy,
I spend more than 20 seconds investigating the things I give a shit about. Other things, not so much.
Tom, you need to spend more than 20 seconds investigating things of which you are not aware.
Apparently there are what I would label as bizarre occultists who worship Saturn and the sun. The Saturn worshipers are called Saturnalians. There is much evidence that indicates that the holiday on December 25th comes from a holiday celebrated in the Roman Empire called Saturnalia.
Saturn is an unusual last name, and William Saturn has a blog called The Sauturnalian. If you check out some of the things posted on his blogs, he’s got some weird stuff on there, including stuff that ties in with with some of the troll posts that have popped up on here over the years, like his supposed interview with the “Nazi troll” that used to post here under the name “Vernon” (which I have long wondered if it was just William talking to himself).
Nobody here knows William Saturn, and he has refused any attempts at an in person meeting or phone conversation, and as an IPR writer, he has access to the IPR dashboard, which means he can take down posts.
I wonder if William Saturn (or whatever his real name is) is sitting there thinking, “Oh shit! He’s figured me out.” LOL!
L: they are quite likely to conclude that the LP is full of people who basically support the status quo, and just want to make a few minor tweaks to it. Because why else would we nominate candidates who say that?
me: I think I get your concern, but I wonder whether that’s how it plays outside the High Holy Church of NAPsterism. For most, yes, J/W are not threatening in their presentation, although some may find weed legalization and a 20% cut in spending a severe rock of the boat
I doubt that most who hear the J/W message leap to any conclusions about how representative they are of the LP, mostly because I don’t think they are paying attention all THAT closely. Instead, they listen to the issues articulated, how well they are articulated, look at their resume, and then form opinions about THE TICKET, not so much THE PARTY.
Can we stipulate, though, that we’re both just guessing?
TK, as I said, I agree that he’s far from an ideal candidate. However, ultimately I think he’s a lot less damaging to the LP brand than the milquetoast centrist types (e.g. Johnson/Weld). Here’s why: Most people probably aren’t going to dig too deep into the symbolism and conclude that the LP is full of fascists. Instead, if they don’t like Invictus, they will probably just dismiss him as the kind of “nut” or “crank” that can be found in any party. On the other hand, when people hear Johnson and Weld doing their “moderate Republican” shtick, they are quite likely to conclude that the LP is full of people who basically support the status quo, and just want to make a few minor tweaks to it. Because why else would we nominate candidates who say that?
langa,
He’s a fascinating character — someone I wouldn’t mind having a beer with and discussing LSD, Aleister Crowley’s ritual magick stuff, etc. with. I only met him for a minute or so but he didn’t come off at The Beast of anything. I certainly don’t think he’s Satan (which is a Christian construct I don’t have a great deal of use for — I thought Szandor LaVey had a lot more fun with it than the Christians did).
At the same time, as a specifically partisan Libertarian candidate, his branding sucks.
He knows the symbolism he’s chosen evokes negative memories of the period 1920-1945; he’s discussed why he chooses to use that symbolism anyway (and stripping away that Mussolini/Hitler period from consideration, a right-facing aquila holding a fasces, with a laurel wreath, isn’t really any less negative or ominous even if people DID “get it”).
When I see an eagle, fasces and laurel in a campaign logo, and then I see the candidate bemoaning the state’s failure to institute eugenics programs and its “fear of the Jews” in his campaign literature, and when the candidate consciously adopts a speaking and rhetoric style that’s half Huey Long and half Enoch Powell, I doubt I’m the only one who reacts negatively.
Mr. Invictus might make a fine candidate for some kind of nationalist party, although I doubt he or that party would get very far. He’s exactly the opposite of a good fit for a libertarian party.
The things I like about him are his oratorical skills and his willingness to stand his ground when challenged.
The things I dislike about him are his affinity for eugenics, and his seeming eagerness for violent revolution.
As for the other things, like the drinking of goat’s blood and other weird habits, I couldn’t give less of a fuck.
It’s rare for me to take the middle ground on just about anything, but on Invictus, I might have to make an exception, as it seems that both his supporters and his detractors view him in an almost hysterical manner. To some, he is God. To others, he is Satan. To me, he seems pretty far from either of those extremes.
Andy,
Are you religious?
Andy,
I spent about 20 seconds on each of the two video links you offered. I found no substantive connection in either of them to the post above.
Why The Elite Worship Saturn – The Black Cube EXPOSED!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZQBYiZ-ztU
Is this a case of a Saturn worshiper endorsing a sun worshiper?
Jordan Maxwell – The Cult of Saturn – ‘Saturnalia’ (FULL)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yRo2qDGLtA
“If you are willing to condemn Libertarian Party members and activists who are supporting America’s Most Dangerous Libertarian, Augustus Sol Invictus, but are okay with all of the HUNDREDS of LP delegates who voted for a CFR globalist to be your party’s VP nominee”
I opposed Weld for the nomination, I explained why I opposed him for the nomination, I voted against him for the nomination on both ballots, and I have been among those who have cataloged his misdeeds since the nomination. So I’d guess it’s safe to say that no, I’m not OK with the hundreds of LP delegates who voted for him.
Then again, at least they didn’t vote for Invictus, either. Weld was a mistake. Invictus isn’t a mistake. Anyone who’s bothered to actually look at him closely knows better.
“Racism? He has four Hispanic kids” (and a black councilman has endorsed him, and a religious Jew has endorsed him).
And Frazier Glenn Miller had a Chinese wife and got arrested having sex in the back of his car with a black male prostitute. So?
“Fascist? Have you read his platform? What’s fascist about it?”
Yes, I’ve read his platform.
But the thing is, that isn’t ALL I’ve read.
“He is a member of the LPF, a county chair no less, and he did everything legally in his run.”
Maybe, maybe not. He suddenly stopped reporting his campaign finances at the end of 2015, at which time he had raised less than $3,000. He’s now paid $10k in filing fees, and presumably has had more expenses to boot. And he doesn’t want anyone to know where that money came from.
“Your thinking epitomizes the problem with libertarianism.”
There, fixed that for ya.
Thomas,
Do you know that there are religious, pro-Israel Jews backing Invictus? Max Dickstein is one of them.
Racism? He has four Hispanic kids. Do you not realize that would disqualify him from Stormfront and Daily Stormer due to him being a “race betraying race mixer?” in the eyes of those website frequenters? Invictus has been endorsed by a black city councilman in Florida, Keon Antonio Grayson, and has represented black defendants as an attorney.
https://amthirdpartyreport.com/2016/07/17/augustus-invictus-releases-criminal-justice-reform-platform/
Fascist? Have you read his platform? What’s fascist about it?
Evil? Invictus is not on the guest list to the Bohemian Grove or Bilderberg Club. Can you show me any crimes he has committed? Has he destroyed people’s lives? Quite the opposite! He’s defended victims of state oppression as a criminal defense attorney – fighting both the evil “War on Drugs” and evil “War on (so-called) Terrror” that has taken out innocent casualties while the real perpetrators of crimes against humanity are comfortably painting colorful creeks and cows in a mansion somewhere in Texas, or having one of their daughters becoming pre-selected as the next Wyoming congress critter.
Attack on the libertarian movement? He is a member of the LPF, a county chair no less, and he did everything legally in his run. The LPF leadership resigned rather than try to put up a challenger, and that was not Invictus’ fault.
Your thinking epitomizes the problem with leftist libertarianism. “You’re either with us, or you’re with the terrorists” George W. said. This is the problem with your fanatical – and baseless- assault on a true freedom fighter. If you are willing to condemn Libertarian Party members and activists who are supporting America’s Most Dangerous Libertarian, Augustus Sol Invictus, but are okay with all of the HUNDREDS of LP delegates who voted for a CFR globalist to be your party’s VP nominee, I would have to say that you have your priorities completely backwards.
Raquel, I’m sure you get tired of me telling the truth about Invictus when you’re hoping to put him over on the unsuspecting. But you should also be used to it by now.
Thomas, you are foaming at the mouth again. Y a w n !
For those of you who are still listening to the smears, half-truths, innuendo, straight-up lies and bigots who are a small, albeit loud, group, are not paying attention to the FACTS. For frequently asked questions – answered, link here: http://www.invictusforsenate.com/faq.html Learn the truth about Augustus Invictus – EASY – go to the source.
Augustus Invictus whined for a debate with Paul Stanton for weeks. When he got one, he didn’t show up — and then went back to whining about how mean ol’ Paul Stanton wouldn’t debate him.
Any time anyone points out irrefutable facts about Invictus, his trained seals start yelling that it’s all lies — and hope you don’t go check for yourself.
Just for example:
– In college, Invictus wrote a paper treating the subject of eugenics favorably.
– When asked about that, he claimed it had just been a college paper and that his views had changed.
– But then it turned out that on his campaign web site, he listed failure to implement eugenics as one of the “failures” of the federal government. It seems to have subsequently vanished from his campaign web site, but it’s available at archive.org’s Wayback Machine and fortunately Jed Ziggler reproduced it at IPR. Ever since then the trained seals chant “LIES! ALL LIES! HE REPUDIATED THE COLLEGE PAPER!” when it’s brought up, hoping nobody will check. Especially since if they do, they’ll also find that Invictus believes the federal government is driven by “fear of the Jews”
– Then in March, Augustus went to give a speech in Portland, Oregon, and when his rally was broken up by “antifa” protesters he put out a Facebook post (also apparently since taken down, but reproduced here — “I wrote a paper in law school in support of eugenics, which I have since renounced on the grounds that the government cannot be trusted. The only people supporting such a program are the antifa, who promote dysgenics by holding up the wretched of the earth as the future of humanity.” (Cue trained seals, “LIES! LIES! WHO ARE YOU GONNA BELIEVE, US OR YOUR LYING EYES?”)
Everyone who endorses or supports the shambling human-shaped pile of evil, racist, anti-semitic fascist fecal matter calling itself Augustus Invictus should be ashamed of themselves. Since they apparently aren’t, I’ll be ashamed for them. And I’ll also remember who aided him in his attack on the libertarian movement, the Libertarian Party, and human freedom.
Jill, if you still have those questions, it would be worth a shot. I’m friends with Augustus on FB and can ask if he’d be willing to do it. Theoretically, even if he chose to skip a question, the answers he’d give to the other questions would be beneficial for publication on IPR – given the primary is five days away and he could be the nominee.
Well, this is interesting. I respect Steve Scheetz’s judgement, and William’s also, so perhaps I should revisit this issue (not that it’s mine, since I’m in CA). It was just about a year ago that Mr. Invictus agreed to an interview; I sent him a dozen questions put together from IPR’s readers’ questions, but never heard back from him. I suspect that it was because of the hostility toward him that was present in the thread asking for questions.
I wonder if he’d talk to me now?
“Augustus Sol Invictus” is a joke candidate.
YES!
Thank you William, for making the right choice. I’m going to pray for Augustus’ victory. It is unbelievably crucial that he wins.
I challenge any Stanton supporter to find ONE controversial thing in Invictus’ anti-statist platform. News flash: you won’t:
http://www.invictusforsenate.com/platform.html
Here is an excerpt from a July editorial from ATPR:
“The Florida Senate race continues to become the most high profile election for third party enthusiasts due to the rise of the Libertarian party; the Florida race is particularly interesting due to the heated Libertarian primary underway between the two Libertarian candidates—Paul Stanton and Augustus Sol Invictus. Both candidates represent two very distinct wings of the Libertarian party. Stanton represents a center-left faction while Invictus represents a more radical alt-right coalition. Thus, my endorsement decision was simple.
The future of American third parties lies in their appeal to the most disenfranchised and impassioned American voters. The centrist positions of Paul Stanton, such as mild tax and drug policy reform do not satiate the demands of the growing desire for a true political alternative to the two party duopoly. It is my opinion that a third party will only gain traction if it caters to the voters who are most active and most dissatisfied with status quo American Politics. They desire a revolution, and Augustus Invictus himself has vocally stated that he was born for such a revolution, and that is why I, Max Dickstein, along with the founder of AMThirdPartyReport, Krzysztof Lesiak endorse Augustus Invictus in the Florida Libertarian Senate Primary.
Mr. Invictus understands that the rise of Donald Trump is predicated on a discontented portion of the electorate to have an outsider candidate that stands in opposition to the ruling political class. Paul Stanton and those who endorse him such as Gary Johnson and Bill Weld appear to only want to receive scraps from the dinner table of the political elite, and that is why all three of them refuse to rock the boat and implement revolutionary change to this country’s political discourse. Of the two Florida Libertarian candidates, only Mr. Invictus seems to have any interest in implementing radical change with a revolutionary message.”
Oh, by the way, the editorial above was written by a religious, pro-Israel Jew. So I’m all ears for any more “neo-Nazi” smears from the PC Approved Church of Left-Libertarianism.
Anyone who tells the world that he has drunk goat’s blood as a religious ritual, and who then runs for office, and doesn’t in any way say that is past behavior was a mistake, shows a lack of awareness about the real world, or else is very insincere.
In our society, most people eat meat, and that is considered socially acceptable. In our society, anyone who drinks the blood of any animal for religious purposes will be associated with evil. That is just the way it is. It is one thing for him to have drunk the blood, but another thing to have widely publicized it. For people to endorse him, and not address this issue, makes for a very unconvincing message.