2010 LP convention to be held in St. Louis

The 2010 Libertarian Party National Convention will be held in St. Louis, MO, at the Renaissance St. Louis Grand and Suites Hotel, from Friday May 28 to Monday May 31. Monday is a holiday.

According to LNC member Michael Colley:

The considerations leading to this selection included: 1) a location in the center of the country relatively easy for travel, 2) a historic downtown hotel with good space for meetings, 3) able to walk to restaurants/ballpark/retail/the Arch, 3) a guaranteed 2010 room rate of $109, 4) discounted parking on site, 5) good dates, 6) all meeting space comped.

37 thoughts on “2010 LP convention to be held in St. Louis

  1. Thomas L. Knapp

    Paulie,

    That’s downtown — if you crashed at my place, you’d spend more time shuttling back and forth (at least 30-45 minutes each way, even taking the train) than at the venue.

    Hell, I’ll probably rent a room there, or somewhere nearby, then take contributions from people who want to crash there space-available. You saw me in Denver — I stopped by the room to shower once a day, and maybe spent an hour a day there otherwise.

  2. WinstonSmith

    I thought the convention was supposed to be held in the east since they’ve already done it in the West and central US?

    Or maybe they were talking about the 2012 convention. Definitely need to get one over here in the East.

  3. Michael Seebeck

    1) Lambert is the worst airport in the nation, even worse than LAX or O’Hare.
    2) Downtown means access and parking can be impossible. Denver wasn’t bad, but that’s because I knew the area inside out being semi-local.
    3) I’m a Cub fan. Why would I walk to a Cardinals game unless the Cubs were there to beat on them? Arch is just a goofy stainless steel elevator with a view at the top of downtown St. Louis or the picturesque East St. Louis. Room rates may be good for that place, but still pricey.
    4) Always a minus. Hotel parking should be FREE for guests, period.
    5) Memorial Day weekend AGAIN? When will they move it back in the calendar? You DON’T put conventions on heavy travel holidays!

    I thought Pittsburgh, Cleveland and Austin were the top-runners?

    And The Keaton reports that this has NOT been voted on by the LNC as far as she knows.

  4. Thomas L. Knapp

    Michael,

    You write:

    “1) Lambert is the worst airport in the nation, even worse than LAX or O’Hare.”

    I’ve flown in and out of all three, and Lambert is hands-down the best. It’s fairly small, it is so far as I know the only major airport in America that still has easily accessible smoking areas, and for getting from the airport to the convention venue and back it is an absolute dream. More on that below.

    “2) Downtown means access and parking can be impossible.”

    If you’re flying in, it’s great. You walk directly out of the main terminal and onto a Metrolink train, and half an hour or so later you step off the train 1/10th of a mile from the convention hotel. If you’re coming in through the east terminal (Southwest Airlines mostly, I think), the walk is a little longer — about 100 yards across a parking lot to get to the train platform). Cost, if memory serves, is $4.

    If you’re driving in, parking will probably be easier than in most large cities. I believe the venue is fairly near the stadium, and there are LOTS of ad hoc parking lot operations in the area. I believe the venue also has its own parking system and is offering convention attendees a discounted rate.

    Downtown St. Louis is fairly foot-accessible. I don’t have a map in front of me, but all the nightlife you could possibly want is probably within a 10-15 minute walk.

    “3) I’m a Cub fan. Why would I walk to a Cardinals game unless the Cubs were there to beat on them?”

    I’m a Cubs fan, too. Of course, I’ve refused to attend St. Louis games anyway since the county defied 80% of its residents to fork over to the Cards for their new stadium. I was willing to compromise — “I’ll pay for your stadium if you’ll rename yourselves the St. Louis Welfare Queens” — but they just took the money and ran. Muggers. But I might go over there to watch Chicago whip their asses some time.

    “Arch is just a goofy stainless steel elevator with a view at the top of downtown St. Louis or the picturesque East St. Louis. ”

    Nope, there’s more than that now. If you walk inside the base of the arch, you can see the metal detector, the search line, and the statue of Thomas Jefferson facing away from you with a “NO FIREARMS ALLOWED” sign hanging on its back.

    “Room rates may be good for that place, but still pricey.”

    Assuming that St. Louis really is the pick, I’ll do a scouting trip soon and identify nearby lodgings with lower rates.

    “4) Always a minus. Hotel parking should be FREE for guests, period.”

    I agree , but apparently society has left us behind on that one. I can’t remember the last time I parked free at a hotel.

    “5) Memorial Day weekend AGAIN? When will they move it back in the calendar? You DON’T put conventions on heavy travel holidays!”

    Agree.

  5. Ross Levin

    Chuck – apparently, St. Louis isn’t confirmed yet, but it’s one of their top choices.

    But wouldn’t it be great to have it in Philly? I could get a press pass!

  6. WinstonSmith

    I thought Pittsburgh, Cleveland and Austin were the top-runners?

    Pittsburgh sounds good to me. A nice hour drive wouldn’t be that bad.

  7. Michael Seebeck

    Tom, O’Hare is definitely a mess, LAX was never designed for passengers, especially transfers (and I work 6 blocks from it!), and Lambert was never designed for passengers, either–the concourses C and D are way too long, especially if you miss the shuttles.

    Denver’s biggest problem is no backup to the trains from Concourse B and C. That and the occassional tornado…

    KCI–now THAT’s an airport!

  8. Fred Church Ortiz

    I passed through Lambert earlier this month. I’ve seen clearner airports in third world countries, but the smoking section made up for it 10x over.

  9. Mike Theodore

    HAHA! I could save up for a drive over there and some cheap motel! Of course, if I’m not too busy with high school graduation, which is around that time. Could go for the weekend, give someone around Illinois a ride…
    😀

    Wait, any cheap motels around the downtown area?

  10. Michael Seebeck

    Philly could be good. Austin would have been fine. Dunno about Pittsburgh or Cleveland.

    Let’s just be really nuts and have it in Fairbanks AK. In February. Or Phoenix in July, outdoors. 🙂

  11. Michael Seebeck

    Mike, the cheap ones are across the river in East St. Louis–assuming you don’t get shot, that is.

  12. paulie cannoli

    IPR mail:

    “Saint Louis is one of the finalists for the location of the 2010 National LP Convention.

    However, a final decision has not been made as to the location of that Convention.

    I strongly suggest you contact Admiral Colley to confirm this, and then print a retraction.

    Scott Lieberman Region 2 Alternate, LNC”

  13. Michael Seebeck

    OK, so what are the other finalists, then? And when will a decision be made?

    (For Scott, Paulie, I know you’re just the realy here.)

  14. G.E. Post author

    It’s bogus.

    I say the “it’s official” message.

    They wanted IPR to retract the story because it hurt their “bargaining” leverage.

    Now they’re lying by saying it isn’t official.

    LNC = liars who should lose my email address.

  15. G.E. Post author

    Paulie – You saw the emails.

    The first “confidential” one saying, “Yes, this is true, but please take it down.”

    And then one from another neocon on the LNC saying it isn’t true and that we should ask the guy who previously said it WAS true.

    They are LIARS. And I was willing to respect the “confidentiality” request until the second email.

  16. Gene Trosper

    I’d be down for St. Louis only because I have some friends there, plus it’s the site of the infamous YAF convention where libertarians began to splinter away from the conservatives.

  17. Thomas L. Knapp

    Gene,

    The hotel where that YAF convention took place was the Stouffer. It’s now known as the Regal, and is less than a mile from the convention venue mentioned. Might be a good place for radical get-togethers and counter-activities!

    The named venue is 1/10th mile from light rail (straight shot to/from the airport), 3/10ths of a mile from Greyhound, 1 mile from Amtrak and 2 miles from a youth hostel.

    There are probably cheaper rooms available within a block or two, but the best thing would be probably be for rads to quadruple or quintuple up on rooms. It’s not like they’re used for anything but partying, anyway.

    Of course, by 2010, we’ll have a nice rad-herding operation ready to go, too — everyone hooked into mission-specific Twitter or SMS networks, etc. We’ll be able to let each other know “get to the floor NOW” instantly, and chances are some other hotels will have rooms closer to the convention hall than some of the rooms in the convention hotel itself. It’s a big place. I seem to recall two escalator-linked public areas, under-street tunnels to other parts of the place, etc.

  18. paulie cannoli

    Further email from LNC

    “I stand by my original e-mail. Your headline: “2010 LP convention to be held in St. Louis” is not true.

    No contract has been signed for the location of the 2010 National LP Convention. No convention location is final until a contract has been signed.

    Admiral Colley would have been happy to verify that fact, if you called him or e-mailed him. Did you call him, as I suggested?

    Scott Lieberman Region 2 Alternate, LNC”

  19. Michael Seebeck

    Ayn, riverboat gambling ring a bell? It can be done on the side.

    Just as long as Starr gets stuck on the boat in the water during elections…

  20. G.E. Post author

    Kraus is the interim ED of the LP, replacing the disgraced criminal Shane Cory.

    Anything that he can’t control isn’t “journalism.” He asked me to take down this story for one reason and one reason only — it “hurt” the LP’s “negotiating” position.

    Signed,

    Jason Seagraves

  21. T. S.

    What a bunch of friggin whiners!!! Let them name and plan the convention site so the rest of us can plan our lives, huh?! Jeez!!!!!

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