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Polling Shows Little Support for Minor Party Nominees in CA

The Public Policy Institute of California will be co-sponsoring a future gubernatorial debate, and has a stated policy of only inviting candidates who demonstrate at least 10% support in a neutral poll to such an event. In order to provide for this, earlier this month the group polled the gubernatorial and senate races and included all nominees on the ballot. Ballot Access News brings us the newly released results:


  • Barbara Boxer, Democrat, 39%
  • Carly Fiorina, Republican, 34%
  • Gail Lightfoot, Libertarian, 2%
  • Edward Noonan, American Independent, 2%
  • Duane Roberts, Green, 1%
  • Marsha Feinland, Peace & Freedom, below 1%
  • don’t know 22%


  • Jerry Brown, Democrat, 37%
  • Meg Whitman, Republican, 34%
  • Carlos Alvarez, Peace & Freedom, 2%
  • Chelene Nightingale, American Independent, 1%
  • Dale Ogden, Libertarian, 1%
  • Laura Wells, Green, 1%
  • someone else 1%
  • don’t know 23%

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  1. guy fawkes guy fawkes August 3, 2010

    Nightingale can speak in complete sentences. I heard a radio interview and the host asked her specific questions regarding California and her solutions she could not cite certain stats on anything in CA!! She spoke rote comments when querried further, she actually asked on air for her friend to call her with the answer. What a boob!! stupid stupid stupid!!!

  2. Peter Gemma Peter Gemma August 2, 2010

    #23 – thanks for putting all this ranting into perspective Trent.

    The real question posed by the poll results is whether AIP will fare better this year than previous elections. 1-2-3-4% is indeed a worthwhile score if it is the difference between a regular Republican vs. a regular Democrat.

    If Chelene Nightingale can raise some decent money (albeit proportional to AIP candidates in the past) – and recruit some politically savvy people – then her message on key issues, especially immigration, could catch hold. It’s miles and miles before November so there’s plenty of time – it’s exciting to watch a campaign with so much potential unfold.

  3. 'AOK, AOK', [Lake] 'AOK, AOK', [Lake] August 2, 2010

    Trent Hill // Aug 1, 2010:
    “…….. half of the users ……… on this thread are from one IP address.”

    Mark Seidenberg, and Don Grundmann ?

  4. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes August 2, 2010

    It looks like the Greens & Libertarians pissed away another opportunity to get some polling by trying PLAS. Get the polling-get into the debates. Or waste time & lose again.

  5. Trent Hill Trent Hill August 1, 2010

    Almost half of the users who commented on this thread are from one IP address.

  6. Don Lake's mom Don Lake's mom August 1, 2010

    Don, what happened to your Romanian spell-checker?

    Looks like all those Hooked-on-Phonics tapes were a waste of time for my little retarded Donnie!

  7. Davi Rodrigues Davi Rodrigues August 1, 2010

    “?don’t know 23%”

    Well, another candidate could still be included. Don’t Know got over 10%. Chelene could claim this name and get into the debates. The name certainly fits her :>

    Sorry; Couldn’t resist that one.

  8. ‘will you be frank with me?’

    ‘only if I can be earnest with you!’

    on a more serious note”
    I have been told that Nightmare
    Nightingale and all of the ballot
    access candidates would be
    invited to the Public Policy
    Institution of California.

    Then I was told that Chelene
    Ward Nightingale would not
    be on the schedule. And then
    various reason why.

    Every dozen pundits seem to
    have 13 reasons or views of the
    PPI fall debates.

    For sure, I am not invited:
    out side of that ‘things’ are
    ‘as sharp as a dull knife’!

  9. To Don Lake’s mom // Jul 31, 2010:

    ………. first, tanks for dee vail money

    ………. I thot Cory Banks had been driven to other climes?

    ………. my attorney will be contacting you on that unauthrized biography on me but no prob on ‘Donnie Gruntman, the Mad Chiropractor’

    ……… still wearing boy toy panties?

    ……… you know what they said in Kgarden: ‘does not play well with udders’

    ……… Plz stop CRYING to talk your acquaintances into the Gruntman ring of sexual fisting?

    ……… acquintances, as I have no friends

    ……… with friends like Nightmare Nightingale I (and the citizens of California) need no enemies

    ……….. call soon, but not collect!

    ………. how was Europe, heard you were hanging width ‘-‘

    ……….. if I get into anal fisting, will I be the future butt of jocks, er, ah, um jokes?

  10. Green Party Conservative Green Party Conservative July 31, 2010

    We’ve all seen this before…

    The great good here…at least the included the Green Party…

  11. Don Lake's mom Don Lake's mom July 31, 2010

    Lakie deary, play nice with others and please stop trying to talk your friends into anal fisting. It’s really not a nice thing to offer, hon.

  12. - - July 31, 2010

    I’ve been on vaca in Europe. Just got back last week. I swore I would not come to this blog ever again, but the post just seem so damn boring. So fill me in. Are you still holding that convention shindig this Month, the one that will be called “Constipation Convention Invention thingie”? Wish I could attend, but I might stand out like a sore thumb with my purple dress and red hat. talk to me baby~~~

  13. - - July 31, 2010

    Donnie g darling I missed you and your insanity of calling me mark, but as they say…”can I be frank with you?, only if I can be mark!” don g, hows things going old chum? Hope mother is doing well.

  14. Don Grundmann Don Grundmann July 31, 2010

    ” – “/i.e.; Mark Seidenberg – Mark, you were writing so little under your fake names and non-names that I thought you had finally begun to reform. I am just kidding as we both know that that is an impossibility. Lying, corruption, and just plain promotion of evil; these are all oxygen to you. If you try to stop doing them you will literally choke. And so you continue with your sick comments supported by your sick friends such as ” The Fool.”

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party

  15. - - July 31, 2010

    HAHAHA Gruntman would love to do time at leavenworth. (he secretly calls it “heaven-worth”

    ho ho ho

  16. - - July 31, 2010

    Don lake DUDE!!!! whats new in mudville? Boring crap as usual. Looks like Nightingale for governor has a new punk campaign manager. Another sluggo, with ties to the “matrix” world of deceit and repeat. She hooks with the strangest underbelly of society. The pain is almost over HURRY UP NOVEMEBER! :0

  17. Dearest ‘-‘ at the risk of scaring up another Gruntman ‘fart’ I repeat, Nightmare Nightingale MAY BE .0035 of the total vote in November: a foot note of a foot note!

    Notice the clearness of the political air with Space Cadet and practised liar Cody Banks completely gone and Donnie G making only an occassional gloomy presence?

    I presently write felon inmates Corruption King Puke Cunningham and Kiddie Porn King Wade Sanders. Are you going to send love notes to Gruntman in Corcoran and or Leavenworth?

  18. - - July 31, 2010

    Donnie I missed you baby!! Donnie G. Hows the teabag hag doing these days…Ms. N? Saw she only has 1% in the polls, maybe her new campaign manager needs to step it up, but then again, would that help at this point? Donnie G missed you hope all is well for you.

  19. Don Grundmann Don Grundmann July 31, 2010

    ” her corrupt and corrosive back ground!]”

    Response – to ” The Fool ” – Another day and yet another of your lying attacks against Chelene. She is a fantastically honorable woman of wonderful integrity. YOU are an unbelievably sick lying rat. SHE is working to save the state from countless attacks against the citizens. YOU do NOTHING but LIE – CONTINUOUSLY.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party

  20. d.eris d.eris July 31, 2010

    The people of California will get the government they deserve.

  21. Democrat in Arizona (going where he / she / it has not been invited):

    “Looks like Chelene Nightingale is a footnote now. ”

    Lake: Wait wait wait. By Mid November the majority of votes may be counted. Nightmare Nightingale [my words] as AIP ballot, independent independent, write in or even at all!]

    “Lessons learned”

    [Lake: by November 2nd she may be on her way to being a foot note of a foot note! And the learning has been by the general public on her corrupt and corrosive back ground!]

    “Maybe she can run for a smaller office has she might gain some experience at that level.”

    [Lake: You are a major party propenent from out side of the West Coast. You just do not get it!]

    Little fish can’t start at the top. . . . .

    [Hey Arid Zona, you don’t get it, you don’t get it: just like Patrick and Baye Buchanan and the 2000 $12.5M strong box robbery, it is not about ideology or experience, it is about ethics —– or the lack thereof!]

    [Lake: Chelene Ward Nightingale and her true self were of such ‘Swiss Cheese’ composition that various alternative political types (not Top Screw, er, ah, um Top Two) were calling her real tune as early as August 2009 on this various site! Ethics, ethics, ethics and MAY BE .003 of the General election!]

  22. Thomas M. Sipos Thomas M. Sipos July 31, 2010

    “Looks like Chelene Nightingale is a footnote now.”

    Uhm…is there a third party candidate on that list who isn’t a footnote?

    Or do you imagine that 1% is a footnote, whereas 2% is a landslide?

  23. Democrat in Arizona Democrat in Arizona July 31, 2010

    Looks like Chelene Nightingale is a footnote now. Maybe she can run for a smaller office has she might gain some experience at that level. Little fish can’t start at the top. Lessons learned.

  24. Don Grundmann Don Grundmann July 31, 2010

    The above comment by the so-called, and actually fake, ” Vice-Chairman ” of the AIP shows his lying corruption in the fact that his pre-primary attack upon Chelene Nightingale continues to this moment. That is because Chelene is part of the REAL AIP, the non-corruption faction of the party which opposes the corruption of Seidenberg and his associated criminals and criminal enterprise as documented at

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. the REAL Vice-Chairman of the American Independent Party which is STILL the California branch of the Constitution Party

  25. Mark Seidenberg Mark Seidenberg July 31, 2010

    It shows that Chelene Nightingale is only at 1% and her campaign is going no where. She has far
    to little to enter the debates and the electors are
    becoming aware that the American Independent Party does not want to run anyone for Governor.
    Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg,
    Vice Chairman,
    American Independent Party,
    affiliated with the America’s Independent Party,
    since June 27, 2008

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