Green Party Latino Caucus forming

1. Kimberly Wilder February 3, 2011

   LOL! Paulie,

   You sound like people I know who were at a workshop to understand racism, and they said “hippie” was a group as equally oppressed as people of color.

   Thanks for the comments and conversation.
2. paulie February 3, 2011

   Poor white folks can borrow someone’s nice clothes, and rent an apartment on any side of town.

   It takes years of work to fix teeth and speech patterns, though 🙂

   But, yeah, I know what you are saying as well.
3. Davi Rodrigues February 3, 2011

   Excuse it how ever you like.
4. Kimberly Wilder February 3, 2011

   Paulie @11

   Poor white folks can borrow someone’s nice clothes, and rent an apartment on any side of town. That is definitely not true for people of color.

   Davi @12

   Also, “white” is not a race. “White” is a class that you belong to, if the other white people think you are good enough.

   “White” is not equal to “Hispanic”. They mean totally different things. White is defined by who it excludes. Hispanic is defined by who it includes.
5. Davi Rodrigues February 2, 2011

   Whether you favor a race(s) or disfavor one, you are a racist.
6. paulie February 2, 2011

   When anything related to money or power becomes eligible, they probably know someone by friend or family in the top group who are doling things out.

   Not necessarily. Lots of poor white folks around.
7. Kimberly Wilder February 2, 2011

   Inherent in your argument, it seems that you are saying that the group “white” is equivalent to the group “Latino”, and that equation you believe in is one reason why it is wrong to let one group network as a caucus, and not the other.

   But, in our culture, “white” means, basically, “all the people who can pass for the dominant racial group, all the people who are eligible to fill the ranks of the top class and any other class they aspire to. The group of people for whom it is easy to rent a house, buy a house, or go to the best school.”

   The people who are white are the winners. They already get perks and privileges. When anything related to money or power becomes eligible, they probably know someone by friend or family in the top group who are doling things out.

   The term “white” is much more changeable than the term “Hispanic”, because as groups assimilate, or struggle, to demand equality, they merge from whatever separate, ethnic, and/or oppressed group they are into white.

   So, “Italian” or “wop” becomes part of “white.” And, “Irish” becomes part of white.

   That is why “white” is not the same as “Hispanic” or “Black”.

   Sometimes, an oppressed group needs to get together and take stock of their relationship to the “white culture”. And, sometimes the numbers will show, that the oppressed group needs to appeal for some equalizing in the form of equal rights laws, scholarships, etc.
8. Davi Rodrigues February 2, 2011

   Racially explicit or racially specific groups are exactly racism. Latinos appear to be the most hypocritical where it comes to racism. It’s good for them to use it, but extremely bad for anyone else, especially if they are white. If Latinos engage in this sort of racially pointed policy, they are practicing racism.
   Nativo Lopez appears to be mentally ill. He’s a racist too, but I doubt it is his biggest problem at present when compared to his other mental state. Unless of course, racism causes mental illness. Which may be the case…who knows?
9. Kimberly Wilder February 2, 2011

   Davi –

   Racism is such a strong word. It creates lots of smoke, and little understanding.

   Are you coming from a super-right perspective, and saying that having caucuses for racial groups is racist in and of itself?

   Were you commenting on the Feinstein/Lopez situation?

   Or, something else.

   Please take the time to explain.
10. Davi Rodrigues February 1, 2011

    So the green party approves of this kind of racism? I guess it must…
11. Green Party Latina February 1, 2011

    Green Party running strong Latina and Latino candidates in places like Chicago, and the Indy Greens in Virginia.
12. Michael Cavlan RN February 1, 2011

    Quick

    Lets get California Latino activist Nativo Lopez to assist. Nativo Lopez is a Trade Union organizer for Latinos in Southern California. He was also one of the majority of Ralph Nader supporters in California.

    However, Nativo Lopez had Green Party “leader” Mike Feinstein called the cops on him, due his work with the Latino population, in a pretty apparent way to attack and smear open, active Nader supporters in California.

    Mike Feinstein is still an active Green Party leader.

    Nativo Lopez (and probably most of those who support him and his work) have left the Green Party.

    Karma. Ain’t it a bitch?

    So are the facts.
13. Kimberly Wilder February 1, 2011

    To Paulie @3 –

    Ohhh…don’t get me started. I said enough.
14. paulie February 1, 2011

    So…what’s the past history of the Latino caucus?
15. FYI! [More Don Lake] February 1, 2011

    Ah, like the 2005 call for assistance on a state [California] and national ‘Abused Veterans Working Group’ —- or words to that affect.

    *eyes open*

    Lowered expectations?
16. Kimberly Wilder February 1, 2011

    Is this an old story?

    -KW

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