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Sunday, May 25, 2014
LAS VEGAS (AP) – Southern Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy no longer is a Republican.
Bundy, who is embroiled in a dispute over grazing with the U.S. Bureau of Land Management, has switched his affiliation to the Independent American Party.
He and his wife, Carol, signed registration forms to the cheers of supporters at an Independent American Party gathering in Las Vegas on Friday night.
The event was held to honor Bundy for what organizers called “his courage in standing up for state sovereignty.”
Bundy and his supporters, some of them armed militia members, thwarted a BLM roundup of his cattle near Bunkerville in April.
The BLM says he owes more than $1 million in grazing fees and penalties for trespassing without a permit over 20 years, but he refuses to acknowledge federal authority on public lands.
I didn’t realize World War II history was a hot topic of debate in 1860.
To Jeff Ziggler, Martin Passoli, James Peron, Losty and anyone I may have missed.
Since I am the Libertarian candidate for Congress again, in Ohio District 14, I have had other matters to which I needed to attend before responding to the many lies and distortions in the above comments about me. For the record, my last two nominations for Congress, my nomination for State Representative and my State Central Committee elections have been by party primary. In 2014 I received over 200 votes. In the 2012 election, I received 11,536 votes, 3.39% in a four way race. Other results are on my website.
Jared Taylor’s 21st Century Foundation which includes American Renaissance http://www.amren.com is a White realist group and does not advocate depriving anyone of his rights. As I state in my campaign literature, I believe in equal rights for everyone, even White people.
I disagree with the LP national platform’s immigration and abortion planks, which I make clear in all of my statements and campaign literature. It is not a violation of the nonaggression principle to defend one’s home or one’s country. I agree with the late Doris Gordon, a courageous lady and atheist Jew, that abortion, except as a consequence of performing necessary medical procedures to save the life of the mother, is such a violation. See http://www.l4l.org.
I am a life member of the Council of Conservative Citizens which is not a White supremacist group and which agrees with most L/libertarians on 80% of the significant issues, including the threat to liberty from the federal government, the right to keep and bear arms and the sanctity of private property for everyone, not only White people.
The American Free Press is one of the last honest newspapers in the United States and I respect Willis Carto for his courage, intelligence, patriotism and ability to expose and oppose the Zionists. I disagree with the thesis of Imperium, which was written by Francis Parker Yockey, who was probably murdered by the U.S. government and not Willis Carto, and all other socialist proposals, including the Northwest Front. Nobody should be deported from the United States except illegal aliens.
I do not have time to discuss the twenty or more holocausts of the twentieth century. L/libertarians should not want to suppress freedom of speech or of the press. Therefore, I support the Institute for Historical Review.
The Black man who interviewed me at the Hessler Street Fair was fined $50,000 for trying to deny people their right of assembly. I think that I did well in the interview, which is on my website.
Larry Pratt is the founder of Gun Owners of America and a dedicated patriot who wants to preserve everyone’s rights. You are using the same guilt by association technique which communists and their sympathizers falsely accused the late patriot Senator Joseph McCarthy of utilizing.
The John Birch Society has bent over backwards since its founding in 1958 to stress that it is not “racist” or “anti-Semitic” in any way. It has been heavily criticized in some circles for these positions to which it has always diligently adhered. I am proud to be a member since 1962 and a life member since 1975. I have never been thrown out of a John Birch Society meeting during my 52 years of membership. Anyone who uses Eric Dondero Rittberg, who was fired by Ron Paul and who lied to me and about me, including the above falsehood about the JBS, is simply not credible. Nor is anyone who uses him as a source.
The speaker at the private meeting in Independence was Paul Fromm, a courageous Canadian free speech activist who is smeared by the usual suspects.
David Irving is an honest, great British historian, who was falsely imprisoned by the Austrian government for blaspheming against the Holocaust faith. He was recently expelled from the United States by the powers that be for outstaying his Visa permit for one lousy day. The fedgov can respond to illegal aliens when it wants to do so.
Finally if adults voluntarily enter into a contract and want to call it marriage, the government should uphold such a contract and not meddle with its terms, as long as the contract does not impose any obligations, such as baking cakes, planning or officiating at the wedding or renting facilities for the ceremony.
I look forward to any responses to these clarifications but I may not continue this conversation until after the November election
For liberty, justice and peace,
David Macko
Libertarian candidate for Congress, Ohio District 14
http://www.mackoforliberty.org
Sadly, I’ve known it for many years.
paulie, I’m learning that. Sadly.
There’s plenty of people that still believe that stuff in 2014.
Martin,
I am not sure people can honestly believe someone had the possibility to even think some of these things are serious. Have you seen some of that stuff? Wish I would have known about these organizations. One has to think he’s just a psychology experiment. “How much craziness can I put in one bio and literature?” This is 2014, Not 1964. Not 1939, Not 1860.
I agree. For example, if Macko had something bad to say about Dondero, it would most likely be true.
But the real question is why does LP of Ohio keep nominating Macko as a candidate for public office? Do they not know all this about him or just not care?
“Martin Passoli
July 30, 2014 at 12:56 am
Yeah, but in this case it fits in with everything else Macko says and does. Like I said, even a broken clock is right twice a day.”
The same principle about the broken clock being right sometimes applies to Macko as well.
Yeah, but in this case it fits in with everything else Macko says and does. Like I said, even a broken clock is right twice a day.
“But even the people around him question just how far that love really goes. In May 2008, on a blog post on the Delaware Libertarian website, there is a bit of a debate about a group called “Libertarians for Justice” and if they are actually a hate group passing themselves as Libertarians. One of the posters a Libertarian party player named Eric Dondero, submitted this:”
This is complete bullshit. Libertarians for Justice was started by Jim Duensing. Libertarians for Justice was (is – I’m not sure if the site is still up or not) about re-opening the 9/11 investigation and bringing the real perpetrators of the 9/11 attack to justice. There was nothing racist about the group.
I would take anything that Eric Dondero says with a grain of salt.
I’m not with a group. That’s just an article I found online and shared.
Dondero is widely regarded as a bad joke, much as Macko should be but unfortunately isn’t. Even a broken clock is right twice a day though, and in this case Dondero has it right.
He’s running again.
Martin, I cannot believe anyone can believe many of these things in 2014. (I’ll stay out of the Abortion discussion, as even the Party does).
It astounds me that anyone can not believe in the Holocaust. Deporting Non-Whites? Sickening. Invasion Problem? Bringing light and seeing that evil, though unelectable evil, evil is still out there is very important.
Shining a light to it, getting it out, and showing people that this kind of thing exists is the only reason I am not physically ill.
Not familiar with your group Martin, and I only met Mr. Dondero once, and I only know him from his petitioning. So I don’t know if he is a “LP Player”. Mr. Macko is on the Central Committee of the Ohio LP.
Thank you for educating me on some of these organizations and publications.
Wow, David Macko AND Tom Metzger have joined us in the same thread right here on IPR! We are truly privileged.
Although LP members will laugh at the description of Eric Dondero as a “Libertarian Party player” in the article below I wonder if Macko can explain all this or deny it, and if Ohio LP folks can explain why they keep running this guy as an LP candidate. Maybe they are just not aware of these facts, or is it that they do not care?
For starters Mr. Macko, do you deny being a fan of Willis Carto and his American Free Press? Do you deny being involved in the American “Freedom” Party? Do you deny that Willis Carto dedicated his opus Imperium to Adolf Hitler? Do you deny that American “Freedom” Party leaders, including the party’s founder, are heavily involved in the Northwest Front project of Harold Covington, former chair of the National Socialist White People’s Party and founder of the terrorist group Combat 18 (the 18 is alphanumeric code for AH which stands for Adolf Hitler)? Do you deny that the succeeding chair of AFP William Daniel Johnson has been pushing the idea of deporting all so-called nonwhites from the US since at least 1985?
Anyway, here goes. Please deny or explain.
http://onepeoplesproject.com/index.php/en/rogues-gallery/13-m/97-david-macko
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Here’s another Ron Paul acolyte that is trying to pass for a mere progressive, anti-war Libertarian. We seem to run into them a lot, but one simply isn’t going to pass one over on us if they are trying to pass off literature from the Holocaust denial wackjob group Institute for Historical Review (IHR) and Willis Carto’s American Free Press. That tends to get the hackles raised a bit, as it did when David Macko went to the Hessler Street Fair in East Cleveland, OH in May 2009.
This is more or less an annual street fair for artists and free spirits (hippies) and progressive/leftist politics. There were no issues with table for the Libertarian Party until the second day, when Macko, a Libertarian Party member who ran for congress in Ohio’s 14th District in 2008, showed up. He brought literature with him, some of it was from Ron Paul’s Campaign For Liberty (we had said often that Paul’s run for President was actually a fundraiser, and guess where his “campaign donations” went), and that literature was benign enough that Congressman Dennis Kucinich, who was at the street fair, picked up a CFL brochure, but he was wise enough to leave the IHR and Free Press crap behind. Sadly, if you didn’t know what those groups were about, you could just as easily mistaken it for simply anti-Zionist literature, and if you didn’t know what David Macko was about you would not think much about him bringing it there, let alone bringing himself there, let alone being a member of the Northeast Ohio Anti-War Coalition (NOAC).
That last one however does have its critics, and there have been some that have called out Macko. One person said they even followed him to a racist meeting in Independence, Ohio a few years back, but to date there is no evidence of that. Of course, Macko somewhat supporters do so on the basis that they are not sure, don’t want to falsely accuse him of any racist/anti-Semitic activism, and want proof of such things. His campaign website alone should have clinched it for anyone who cared to look. In his website biography, Macko, a retiree who used to work as an adjuster for Key Bank in Ohio, lists his affiliations. Besides the Libertarian Party, he also notes the John Birch Society, Gun Owners of America (whose head, Lawrence Pratt was fired as Pat Buchanan’s campaign manager when he ran for president because Pratt was called out for speaking at an Aryan Nations conference), Council of Conservative Citizens, and American Free Press Readership Council.
Macko is pretty documented in the WP circles, one of those notations being the June 2006 protest sponsored by the Council of Conservative Citizens outside the Southern Poverty Law Center building in Montgomery, Alabama. When asked by a reporter why he was there, Macko, holding a sign that read “Show me the poverty,” said he was there to hold a mirror up to Dees. “Mr. Dees has spent his entire life attacking extremists, but really he is the biggest extremist,” he said. “So I’m here to help educate people that they are being mislead by people like Mr. Dees. The people he attacks are good people that love America.”
But even the people around him question just how far that love really goes. In May 2008, on a blog post on the Delaware Libertarian website, there is a bit of a debate about a group called “Libertarians for Justice” and if they are actually a hate group passing themselves as Libertarians. One of the posters a Libertarian party player named Eric Dondero, submitted this:
“…It is a well-known fact the vast majority of their members are Anti-Semites. Macko is a diehard Ron Paul guy. He’s a Holocaust revisionist. He believes that the actual number of Jews who died in the Holocaust is less than 1 million, and most of those died of starvation and disease, ‘not in gas chambers.’
He’s one of those defenders of that nutty Nazi guy in Austria who wrote all those books on Holocaust revisionism. And Macko is a local Libertarian Party Chairman, and a big supporter of the 9/11 Trutherism garbage.
I know a Jewish guy who heads up the Pittsburgh chapter of the John Birch Society. He told me that Macko showed up one time driving in from Ohio, and handed out Nazi literature at the JBS meeting. They had to kick him out. This is the JBS we’re talking of. Macko, was even too extreme and nutball for them…”
The “nutty Nazi guy in Austria” referenced is David Irving of the United Kingdom, who in 2006 had to serve some time in an Austrian prison for Holocaust denial, a no-no there. When this happened, a discussion on a listserv Macko posts regularly on asked why whites have not stepped up to defend him the way Zionists would defend Israeli spies prosecuted by the US. Macko submitted this response:
“One of the reasons why L/libertarians and others, especially in the
United States, do not defend our core values, especially freedom of speech, is a misplaced desire to be “respectable”. They do not understand that true respectability can only be attained if you respect yourself. Another factor is that some of them do not realize that the establishment media is an enemy of liberty and the American people, among other groups. Many also fail to understand that White people, who are being persecuted by the government and maligned by the media, would be good targets for recruitment.
For life and liberty,
David Macko”
For the record, OPP ended up on his radar when he posted the American Free Press article on how we got the anti-Semitic, IHR-supporting Holocaust-denying band Poker Face bounced off the Rutgers University campus when they were slated to perform at a Libertarian Party conference held there. It’s funny how we never heard of this guy until the Hessler Street Fair in Cleveland, but by the time we got to that little tidbit, everything else about him was already pouring out at us. And even if none of his associations were ever documented, what he believes is enough to earn him crackpot status. To be square, Macko isn’t a complete douchebag. While against same-sex marriage, being a libertarian, he does believe that the gay community should have the same rights afforded all US citizens. Truth be told, a lot of his stances would be what one would expect from a libertarian that believes that government is too involved with our lives, but when it comes to the more right-leaning libertarians, it always seems like they are more pissed about how government won’t allow them to be as fascistic as they want to be.
For example, he tends to have an issue with anyone defending women and children because he wants to defund Child Services agencies “which has too often changed their proper role as defenders of the lives, liberty and property of citizens to thuggish agents of a police state,” and repeal the Violence Against Women Act “which have been used to destroy tens of thousands of families.” He is also an anti-choicer who wants to see the Supreme Court’s appellate jurisdiction over abortion cases nullified, thus ending Roe V. Wade. He is also one of those anti-immigrant “put troops at the border” clowns, saying further that the US does not have an immigration problem, but rather an “invasion problem”. He has a nice gem with this stance too: “We should not allow the government to use the invasion problem which it created by not enforcing the law as an excuse for setting up a police state.” No, let Macko do it. After all, you need troops restricting movement to do that, right?
You have got to love some of the more liberal anti-war groups out there. It is one thing to defend the rights of white supremacists to speak and associate with whomever they choose. It is another when we disallow those who are their opposition those same rights. This looks like groups with such a narrow focus on their agenda (or perhaps their grants) that they just don’t notice who is among them, but when there are people coming out over and over again about a certain person, to pretend that there isn’t a problem says that whatever organization it may be might have lost the focus they should have. If you consider yourself a progressive, you generally don’t want to work with people of Macko’s stripe in any capacity because you know that a person like him is using you to further his other goals – the ones that are ultimately against you.
At least Ohio’s 14th Congressional District knew well enough to kick him to the curb. David Macko lost his run for congress with less than 3 percent of the vote.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-ASp6qQYZaI
David,
That is why so many people have questions about you. Uncomfortable doesn’t even begin to describe it.
Dunno if it’s the real Metzger or a wannabe. I guess that remains to be seen.
Hi, Tom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Metzger_(white_supremacist)
I’d say supremacist is accurate also. They don’t just want to separate because they think the other so-called races are equal or better. “Separate but equal” was a lie when it came to segregation under Jim Crow and it is a lie when racist supremacists claim that they are only separatists and nothing else today.
I have not heard any of these people saying they were White Supremacist.The correct term is Separatist.
Exactly, Martin. I don’t feel comfortable having someone with ties to white supremacist groups, including another party, American Freedom Party, in our party and as one of our candidates. With that said, it appears you’re the only minor party candidate running in your district, so I wish you the best of luck against your duopoly opponents.
Hail Cliven Bundy! Hail David Macko! Hail the White race!
Sieg Heil!
He may have been referring to something like this:
From James Peron 2:44am Feb 6 2012
Today I was reading the email dump that the Anonymous group did regarding this new racist political party, the Third Position Party. Among the dump was a list of party members which included one David Macko, who is an LP member, an LP candidate and a FB friend of your own (all people here listed by name).
I was not sure this was the same individual but a google search showed some who has had affilations with openly racists groups, several of them, along with anti-Semites and bigots in the usual areas: they hate Jews, blacks, immigrants and gays for starters.
He says is on the Central Committee of the LP of Ohio. The old White Citizens Council, was renamed the Council of Conservative Citizens, with no change in their vicious racist sentiments. He is listed as active with them. The white supremacists at American Renaissance hold an annual conference on race and he is listed as active with them. His platform for the LP claims that immigration is an invasion, and that immigrants are killers and rapists and the government must forcibly fight this invasion.
Here is a video of Macko, the same Macko, the LP candidate Macko, defending the white supremacist group American Rennaissance, saying all they are doing is preserving the white race—which is precisely the same claim David Duke, the Klan and other groups have made. He identifies as a libertarian and says he doesn’t believe in initiating force or fraud on anyone, which is contradicted by his call for armed resistance against the immigration invasion, and his promise to ban abortion “without exception.”
You can video the video here: http://www.facebook.com/l/YAQHrHpG7AQGbdC2eEYfSOvqq7RuTJDVimDgZ5nhR46IVCw/youtu.be/-ASp6qQYZaI
The Council of Conservative Citizens lists Macko as their contact person for the group in Ohio. He defends Nazis and racists here trying to claim they are just “white preservationists.” The CCC links to numerous white supremacist groups and to neo-Nazi, white supremacist internet “radio” shows. They oppose immigration by non-European (they mean non-white) and non-Western people. They promote racist books and in one click I could buy “White Identity,” “White Apocalypse” “Racism, Schamacism,” “Essential Writings on Race,” “Race and REason” (a favorite of the Klan) “Immigrations and the End of Self Government.” There are books praising various Nazis including “Hitler: The Adjournment,” “Otto Strasser: The Life and Times of a German Socialist.”
Other gems are Confessions of a Reluctant Hater, an introduction to white nationalism, My Awakening, by David Duke.
Until recently the CCC had a more blatantly racist website with rude words aplenty. They toned it down to market their racism better, but it hasn’t changed. You can easily check the kind of stuff they promote and the various hate groups that they openly link to favorably. http://www.facebook.com/l/7AQF5HHH4AQF8vOMx8GMlxrbDmYaH8rX2yYHJG3t9aRkfpA/cofcc.org
Now, I’ve been unimpressed with the conservatives the LP has run, such as Root and Barr, but this far worse. The LP has a chance with Gov. Gary Johnson, but having someone defending white supremacists and racists, running for a major office State Representative, who is an official of the party, is clearly a problem. I am letting you know since you are listed as a Face Book friend with him and you may wish to quietly resolve that potential problem. I hope the LP takes seriously the problem of having a racist on the ticket, and I’m not sure if I was Gary Johnson, I’d be thrilled sharing the LP line with this candidate.
To Jed Ziggler (regarding your comment of May 28, 2014 at 10:38 pm)
Precisely what makes you uncomfortable about me? I would like to clarify this matter.
David Macko
Libertarian candidate for Congress, Ohio 14th District
http://www.mackoforliberty.org
In the case of the Nevada IAP I usually classify articles as both CP and right wing minor parties due to the ambiguity (it is the affiliate of the CP in national elections, but was a pre-existing party which stands on its own in local elections and may choose to continue its CP affiliation or not as it chooses; there is precedent for other pre-existing parties which affiliated with national parties, including the CP as well as others, to break back away on their own). In Bundy’s case it is not clear whether his joining had anything to do with the national CP, at least to my knowledge. He reportedly, from what I have read, does not believe the federal government should exist, or that its existence is legal; thus his affiliation is more likely to be with the IAP independents of its association with the CP, if anything.
The CP posted on facebook that he joined their affiliate:
https://www.facebook.com/TheConstitutionParty
“The Independent American Party of Nevada is the official affiliate of the Constitution Party. There are a few state parties which have names other than Constitution Party”
Yes, I know. That’s why I’m asking. I’m saying, since he lives in Nevada, has he joined the Constitution Party or the Independent American Party (I mean the national entity)?
If he’s affiliated with the Nevada Independent American Party, then he’s affiliated with the Constitution Party, not “Right-wing minor parties”
Jed Ziggler: “Did he really join the IAP, or did he join the Constitution Party, which is on the ballot in Nevada as the IAP?”
The Independent American Party of Nevada is the official affiliate of the Constitution Party. There are a few state parties which have names other than Constitution Party
“Mark Axinn May 28, 2014 at 8:08 pm
Seriously Nick, I would be interested in your reasons. I would also like you to address whether it is appropriate for an LP Chair candidate not to want a prominent person to join the LP and why.”
I’d say that it depends on who the prominent person is. If the person is actually a libertarian, then I’d say that it would be great to have them, but I would not somebody who is not really a libertarian, no matter how prominent they are.
Why should a national chair not want a prominent person as a member? Well, it depends. What is this person prominent *for*?
Did he really join the IAP, or did he join the Constitution Party, which is on the ballot in Nevada as the IAP?
“I’m glad Mr. Bundy found a new political party, and extra glad he didn’t choose mine.”
Agreed!
“I would also like you to address whether it is appropriate for an LP Chair candidate not to want a prominent person to join the LP and why.”
David Macko’s affiliation with the party already has me uncomfortable enough. If Bundy was welcomed in, I’d be very close to renouncing my affiliation for good. Big tents are for clowns in a circus, not for activists trying to grow a serious party & ideology.
Because he’s a racist. I’m not suggesting he can’t join the LP if he wants, but I’m not interested in recruiting him.
There’s already parties that cater to bigots, no need for another one.
We’re glad to take him in 😉
Bundy might be prominent but he is not a libertarian. The IAP can have him and his arm band.
Seriously Nick, I would be interested in your reasons. I would also like you to address whether it is appropriate for an LP Chair candidate not to want a prominent person to join the LP and why.
Like the hat. How about the “Cowboy Party”?
Tent too small?
I’m glad Mr. Bundy found a new political party, and extra glad he didn’t choose mine.
I thought you’d say that, Joshua!
What good news for the Independent American Party!