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Darryl W. Perry: Debating the CPD


By Darryl W. Perry, a candidate for the 2016 Libertarian Party Presidential nomination, at fpp.cc:


The 2016 Presidential election is still about 18 months away, yet the debates are becoming subject to debate. This is due partly to the proposed lawsuit by the Our America Initiative against the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD), the early start of the 2016 campaign season, and an announcement by the CPD that the Commission will seek input “on various elements of the debates, including the criteria used to determine who will be invited to debate, what formats will be used, and ways to enhance these civic forums.”

The first question to ask is: who is the CPD, and why do they control the Presidential debates? First, some back story on Presidential debates. The first Presidential debates were held in 1960 between Richard Nixon and John F. Kennedy, and were held in the studios of television stations affiliated with CBS, NBC & ABC. In 1976, after a “16 year period in which there were no public presidential debates, the League of Women Voters Education Fund (LWVEF) sponsored three presidential debates.” The League of Women Voters continued sponsoring debates through 1984, and in 1987 pulled their sponsorship “because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter.” LWV President Nancy M. Neuman added, “It has become clear to us that the candidates’ organizations aim to add debates to their list of campaign-trail charades devoid of substance, spontaneity and honest answers to tough questions.”

Enter the CPD. The CPD was formed in 1987 to “ensure, for the benefit of the American electorate, that general election debates are held every four years between and among the leading candidates for the offices of President and Vice President of the United States.” The CPD also claims it “is not controlled by any political party or outside organization and it does not endorse, support or oppose political candidates or parties.” However, no one except a former chair of the Democratic National Committee or Republican National Committee has chaired the CPD since its formation. Additionally, the selection criteria for candidates, at least 15% support across five national polls, can be seen as de facto support for the two major parties. Not to mention the fact that details of the debates, including question topics, are planned in advance with input from the candidates. It’s difficult for any candidate to achieve 15% support when they’re not even mentioned by the pollsters. In fact, the only time any candidate other than a Republican or a Democrat was involved in the CPD debates was independent candidate Ross Perot in 1992.

Since the 15% requirement was adopted by the CPD in 2000, there have been a few of organizations formed to advocate, or host, debates that included minor party and independent candidates. Some of these organizations wish to add a single candidate to the CPD debates, while others have actually hosted debates with multiple candidates. Of course, the Republican and Democratic Party nominees declined their invitations.

But, how many candidates is too many, and how should the invited candidates be selected? These are the questions that supporters of expanded debates don’t agree on. However, the consensus for inclusion in Presidential debates seems to be that any candidate on enough ballots to theoretically win an Electoral College majority should be invited to a Presidential debate. If there are to only be three debates, I would go one step further to include any candidate that is on the ballot or is a certified write-in candidate in enough states to theoretically receive an Electoral College majority. In 2012 and 2008, this would have added 4 candidates to the debate. It’s a small step in the right direction in allowing multiple ideas in the arena of political debate.

4 Comments

  1. Joseph Buchman April 22, 2015

    Darryl,

    It’s all good.

    If anyone was at any of the events in the various cities identified above, I believe many IPR readers would be interested in reports about what was said, although I gather there was some sort of request for secrecy. (Not unreasonable regarding, I suppose, the evaluation of various legal strategies. But surely some portions can be disclosed?)

    Joe

  2. Joseph Buchman April 22, 2015

    “proposed lawsuit by the Our America Initiative against the Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD),”

    OAI is NOT suing the CPD. See: https://www.ouramericainitiative.com/presidential-debate-commission.html

    “Our America Initiative, although not a plaintiff in the lawsuit against the Commission on Presidential Debates . . .”

    They ARE raising funds

    “(OAI) is proud to help finance the lawsuit through its fundraising efforts and to support the plaintiffs and their lawyers in other ways.”

    The decision to re-file the lawsuit in DC (having filed in DC, withdrawn in DC without prejudice, then having filed in California and been rejected there) is apparently NOT up to OAI — they are only “fundraising” — with the following disclaimer:

    “Our America Initiative has a no refunds policy and fund (sic) may be used for overhead cost.” (See: “https://fundly.com/oai-presidential-debate-commission”

    So I believe the accurate characterization of what is happening is “OAI is raising funds for a lawsuit against the CPD which may, or may not, be filed by others. Said funds may also be used for overhead and are non-refundable.”

    OAI has also held a variety of not-open-to-the-public, in-person events around the US. A schedule of those had been posted here:

    https://www.ouramericainitiative.com/meetings.html

    but has since been removed.

    The web archive has preserved that page here:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20150223194059/https://www.ouramericainitiative.com/meetings.html

    Newport Beach, California

    March 17, 2015 at 7:30 PM
    Balboa Bay Club
    1221 Coast Highway
    Newport Beach, CA 92663

    San Francisco, California

    March 18, 2015 at 7:00 PM
    Metropolitan Club
    ?640 Sutter Street
    San Francisco, CA 94102

    Salt Lake City, Utah

    March 19, 2015 at 7:00 PM
    Alta Club
    100 East South Temple
    Salt Lake City, UT 84111

    Scottsdale, Arizona

    March 21, 2015 2:00 PM
    Omni Scottsdale Resort & Spa at Motelucia
    4949 E Lincoln Dr
    Paradise Valley AZ 85253

    Albuquerque, New Mexico

    March 26, 2015 at 7:00 PM
    Hotel Albuquerque
    800 Rio Grande Blvd. NW
    Albuquerque, NM 87104

    Columbus, Ohio

    March 30, 2015 at 7:00 PM
    Hilton Columbus Downtown
    401 North High Street
    Columbus, OH 43215

    Chicago, Illinois

    March 31, 2015 at 7:00 PM
    University Club
    76 East Monroe Street
    Chicago IL 60603

    Austin, Texas

    April 1, 2015 at 7:00 PM
    JW Marriott Austin
    110 E Second Street
    Austin, TX 78701

    Denver, Colorado
    April 2, 2015 at 7:00 PM
    Denver,Athletic Club
    1325 Glenarm Place
    Denver, Colorado 80204

    New York, New York

    April 6, 2015 at 5:30 PM
    Midtown-Club Quarters
    40 W. 45th Street
    New York, New York 10036

    Washington, DC

    April 8, 2015 at 5:30 PM
    University Club of Washington DC
    1135 16th Street, NW
    Washington, DC 20036

    Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    April 9, 2015 at 7:00 PM
    Hilton Fort Lauderdale Beach Resort
    505 N. Fort Lauderdale Beach Blvd.
    Fort Lauderdale, FL 03304

    Seattle, Washington

    April 14, 2015 at 7:00 PM?
    Rainer (sic, should be Rainier) Club
    820 4th Avenue
    Seattle, WA 98104

    It is unclear what portion of the prior funds raised have been used to support travel to and other costs associated with those events.

    The various amounts reported to have been raised with the various goals for fundraising to support filing of the suit can be found in a 19 June 2014 IPR article here:

    https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2014/06/johnson-cpd-lawsuit-fundraising-goal-30k-in-february-200k-in-june/

    The current amount reported to have been raised is

    $8,036.00 with a goal of $100,000 8 days from today (1 May 2015)

    Source: https://fundly.com/oai-presidential-debate-commission

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