Gary Johnson puts out appeal to Sanders supporters following Clinton endorsement

Following today’s formal endorsement of Hillary Clinton by former rival Bernie Sanders, Libertarian Party presidential candidate Gary Johnson posted a video to his Facebook page today with the following caption:

“If joining Sen. Bernie Sanders in the Clinton Establishment isn’t a comfortable place, there IS another option…”

The video has been reposted to YouTube (Video length, 1 minute, 23 seconds):

(Via American Third Party Report)

31 thoughts on “Gary Johnson puts out appeal to Sanders supporters following Clinton endorsement

  1. Melinda Pillsbury-Foster

    So, Gary, how about taking a stand for accountability for Big Oil? Is lying about Global Warming covered under the Bill of Rights? How about demanding investigations on the massive mortgage frauds carried out by the banking industry? There is that accountability issue again.

    How about ordering the DOJ not to enforce the war on drugs, starting with marijuana? How about releasing all prisoners now incarcerated for victimless crimes?

  2. Darcy G Richardson

    It’s difficult to see many of Bernie’s supporters, the vast majority of whom are deeply concerned about income inequality and economic justice, rallying to the aid of an austerity-monger who only four years ago called for an immediate $1.4 trillion, 43 percent across-the-board reduction in federal spending — draconian cuts that would have had devastatingly dire consequences for millions of struggling working-class and middle-income Americans while pummeling the most vulnerable in our society.

    Light up another joint, Gary, and look for a different constituency.

  3. T Rex

    “How about releasing all prisoners now incarcerated for victimless crimes?”

    That would be an actual libertarian position…something Johnson is never very keen on.

  4. Darcy G Richardson

    “How about releasing all prisoners now incarcerated for victimless crimes?”
    ‘That would be an actual libertarian position…something Johnson is never very keen on.'” — T Rex

    It’s kind of sad that there’s not a genuine libertarian appearing on any ticket this year.

  5. Dave

    I don’t think it’s that difficult to see some Bernie supporters going to Johnson. Sanders seems to have attracted a fair amount (though by no means a majority) of support from the RP campaigns. I think there’s a certain level of Sanders supporters who are more drawn to anti establishment in whatever form that takes. And if Johnson keeps getting most of the media attention as the third option in the media,a lot of those Never Hillary folks might turn to him.

  6. Dave

    That said, at present I know more Sanders supporters planning to vote for Trump than I do for Johnson. Not a lot, like two, but still. Still, no harm in putting a video out and trying to appeal to that segment.

  7. Darcy G Richardson

    “I think there’s a certain level of Sanders supporters who are more drawn to anti establishment in whatever form that takes. And if Johnson keeps getting most of the media attention as the third option in the media,a lot of those Never Hillary folks might turn to him.” — Dave

    Agreed. There will certainly be a small percentage of Bernie’s supporters who will gravitate to Gary Johnson, not entirely unlike the way some of Bobby Kennedy’s supporters incomprehensibly drifted into the George C. Wallace camp in 1968. Those numbers will decline as Johnson’s record comes under closer scrutiny.

    In the end, a larger number of Sanders’ supporters who can’t stomach Hillary will probably end up voting for Trump, and an even much larger percentage of the “Never Hillary” folks will eventually support Jill Stein’s Green Party candidacy.

  8. robert capozzi

    My sense and recollection of the data is that BS drew support from younger voters. While BS’s redistributionism was his primary message, GJ’s fp and social issue positioning could peel away some of those voters. It’s worth a shot.

    Surely most Berners are not enthusiastic about HRC or DJT.

  9. Root's Teeth Are Awesome

    I don’t see why a Sanders supporter would vote for Johnson if Jill Stein is on that state’s ballot. Maybe if it was only Johnson, Clinton, or Trump. But not in states with Stein on the ballot.

  10. robert capozzi

    rtaa, generally agree. If GJ approaches Perot levels, perhaps he’s the better protest vote, would be my only counter.

  11. George Dance

    Darcy Richardson: “It’s kind of sad that there’s not a genuine libertarian appearing on any ticket this year.”

    You mean, like Darryl Parry, campaigning on the right to sell heroin to 5-year-olds?

    Or Austin Petersen, campaigning for restoring the gun rights of the criminally insane?

    Or someone like Michael Badnarik, campaigning to abolish drivers’ licenses?

    Oh, the missed opportunities!

  12. Tony From Long Island

    I guess I’m not the only sane person who leans libertarian. Thanks Mr. Dance.

  13. langa

    You mean, like Darryl Parry, campaigning on the right to sell heroin to 5-year-olds?

    Yeah, who in their right mind thinks it’s the job of parents to take care of their kids, when the state could do it?

    Or Austin Petersen, campaigning for restoring the gun rights of the criminally insane?

    Excellent point. We all know the “criminally insane” would never break the law to get what they want, right?

    Or someone like Michael Badnarik, campaigning to abolish drivers’ licenses?

    Absolutely right. I feel so much safer knowing that 80-year-old in the next lane had to pass a driving test when she was 16!

    Oh, the missed opportunities!

    I hear ya. Who needs those crazy libertarians when we’ve got milquetoast moderates like Gary and Bill?

  14. T Rex

    I don’t trust anyone who doesn’t have a “crazy” (out of the mainstream) position on at least one issue.

  15. T Rex

    Ron Paul said at a Republican debate that he supports legalized heroin. The result? Applause.

    Leaders sometimes tell people what they don’t want to hear. Trying to be everything to everyone makes you nothing to no one.

  16. robert capozzi

    tr, and yet RP1 was not nominated nor elected. Heroin remains illegal, last I checked.

    Political leaders say many things, although it’s pretty freakin’ rare that they say things the public doesn’t want to hear. Maybe they should do it far more often, but the game doesn’t seem to be being won by those advocating radical change. It’s generally won by people who point to a different trajectory.

    In a sense, I’d say DJT IS a radical, a very scary one. Perhaps his radical-ness is what appeals to Libertarians for Trump, Alex Jones, and others.

  17. Tony From Long Island

    “Or Austin Petersen, campaigning for restoring the gun rights of the criminally insane?

    Excellent point. We all know the “criminally insane” would never break the law to get what they want, right?”

    So let’s make it easier for them to get firearms!!!!! WHOO!!!!! Go Libertarians! That’ll get ya elected!

    “You mean, like Darryl Parry, campaigning on the right to sell heroin to 5-year-olds?

    Yeah, who in their right mind thinks it’s the job of parents to take care of their kids, when the state could do it?”

    YEAH!! Any decent parent knows it’s their right to give their toddlers heroin!!! Go Libertarians!!! And some wonder why I (and others) leave the LP

  18. Bondurant

    @Tony

    You continue to make claims that your are either libertarian or lean libertarian. Yet, your own posts indicate otherwise.

    1. You support Democratic Party gun control measures

    2. You’ve claimed to be a Democrat

    3. You’ve claimed you align most with Hillary Clinton on political issues

    4. You have so much disdain for actual libertarians at the LP

    I am curious why you, allegedly, maintain an interest in Gary Johnson or libertarians. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re honest and not trolling IPR. What about Johnson or the LP actually appeals to you (since you’ve never mentioned what you actually like…only what you don’t).

  19. Tony From Long Island

    I support the foreign policy philosophy of the libertarian party in general. I’m sure there are nuances I might disagree with.

    I support the idea that the budget can be cut by at least 10% immediately with almost no negative impact on any government services (especially the defense budget)

    I support a much more liberal drug policy though I am not sure I am at the point of full legalization.

    I support major overhauls of the criminal justice system. I especially have disdain for “federal crimes” which are already a crime in all 50 states. In general I don’t favor hate crimes because the crime they committed (i.e. assault ,murder) is already a crime with a significant penalty.

    I support a much flatter income tax with little or no exceptions or deductions. I would support a system with just a few income brackets.

    That’s just off the top of my head right now. I have stated several times that I used to be more libertarian and have sort of evolved back toward the left. I have a warm space in my heart for the LP. But It seemed to me that members want to get from A to Z in one big step. You have to take baby steps. Reduce government a little and see how it works. Then you can try to reduce it some more. Maybe it doesn’t work so well (Kansas is an example that comes to mine) but you cant’ do it all at once.

    Too many people want to complain about how it should be, but don’t actually want to get elected (and gain broad support). Is Gary Johnson a pure lib? Of course not. But if you can elect someone who actually wants and tries to reduce the size of government its a start. NONE of the other candidates vying for the nomination would have gotten one tenth of the coverage GJ has gotten.

  20. Andy

    I would like to see Tony From Long Island step forward in person somewhere and prove that he is who he says he is. I would not be surprised if Tony is another troll.

  21. Tony From Long Island

    Give it a rest man. Really . . . You are the only person I dislike on here. I probably have a mutual acquaintance with Mr. Phillies who is a very long time member of the LP and who ran for a major office, but I will not post that person’s name.

    What do I do on here that even remotely troll-like? I don’t really insult anyone (except you) and my posts are generally relevant, even if most disagree with them.

    The most I will reveal about myself is this is my soundcloud profile with some music I recorded: https://soundcloud.com/user-831858763

  22. Be Rational

    Andy, you should stop whining and just post under a pseudonym yourself.
    I suggest “Popeye.”

    “I am what I am and that’s all that I am.” – Popeye

  23. langa

    So let’s make it easier for them to get firearms!!!!! WHOO!!!!! Go Libertarians! That’ll get ya elected!

    Unsurprisingly, you miss the point. “Criminally insane” people, by definition, have no regard for the law, and no qualms about breaking it. Why would someone like that be hampered by gun control laws? Of course, this all begs the question: Why should “criminally insane” people be allowed to live in society? Shouldn’t they be locked in a cage (like you used to be)? As far as I’m concerned, if a person is “sane” enough to live in our society, they are sane enough to own a gun.

    YEAH!! Any decent parent knows it’s their right to give their toddlers heroin!!! Go Libertarians!!!

    And again you miss the point. Not only is it crazy to assume that if 5-year-olds were allowed to buy heroin, they would actually do so (have you ever met a 5-year-old that liked getting a needle stuck in their arm?), but it’s equally crazy to assume that some bureaucrat is in a better position to determine what a child should be allowed to do than the child’s own parents are. Then again, since you seem to be a fan of Hillary “it takes a village” Clinton, I’m probably wasting my breath on this issue.

    And some wonder why I (and others) leave the LP

    To be honest, what I really wonder is why you came back.

  24. Tony From Long island

    I never did come back. I am a registered democrat. Have been since I was 18. I started paying dues to the LP around that same time. You couldn’t register in New York back then. I don’t think you can now either. I drifted away around age 35 (I’ll be 42 next week). There are libertarian positions I still support.

    I’ll say again that I did not vote for Hillary in the primary. I will almost certainly vote for Johnson in November. However, Hillary will win and it won’t be close and I will be VERY VERY relieved that there will never be a President Trump.

    I don’t miss the point. I get the point. I used to make these same points to people who looked at me just as funny as I would look at you if you made it to me in person. Libertarians need to work on more realistic examples for their policies. If you mention a 5-year-old and heroin in the same sentence, it doesn’t matter what your point is – the listener has tuned out. Same with “criminally insane” and guns.

  25. robert capozzi

    re: “Criminally insane,” I’d say the term should not have been used. There are highly unbalanced people who may or may not have committed criminal acts already whom prudence would suggest that we might not want toting in public.

    Determining who might be so unbalanced and what means might be used to deny them public toting privileges is another matter.

  26. Tony From Long Island

    I was actually going to mention that previously. “Criminally Insane” is a rather archaic legal term. Plus, when most of the large mental institutions were closed in the 60’s and 70’s, people who would have been there are either in society or in prison where they get very shitty mental health care. The legal standard to be declared legally incompetent is a very high bar. So there are many many unbalanced people in society who should be nowhere near a gun, but have free reign. It’s a difficult issue balancing rights and public safety (though it’s not a difficult issue for Mr. Petersen)

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  29. dL

    George Dance:

    “You mean, like Darryl Parry, campaigning on the right to sell heroin to 5-year-olds?”

    That’s not his position. That’s your claim re: the consequence of his position vis a vis drug legalization. The reality is that the current entity that holds a monopoly on prescribing narcotics to children would be your precious state. I specifically referring to ADHD drugs which are prescribed to children against their will. The boogeyman of drug legalization threat to children rings a bit hollow with the demonstration that the state is in the business of doing that exact thing, namely prescribing methamphetamine to children not even in their teens.

    “Or Austin Petersen, campaigning for restoring the gun rights of the criminally insane?”

    Well, neither the politicians nor the cops would pass the objective psychological profiling re: criminal pathology. The politicians score as psychopaths and the cops as sociopaths. So, unless you favor disarming both, your gun control boogeyman re: civilian criminal pathology has a spurious ring to it.

    “Or someone like Michael Badnarik, campaigning to abolish drivers’ licenses?”

    Well, because drivers licenses aren’t limited to testing driving proficiency. They are used as an integral part of a comprehensive and repressive identification/surveillance system, controlling the right to labor bank, work, travel and so forth. Heck, NY recently passed a terrorist DMV bill, where “accused terrorists” actually have to go and register to government list just as if they were standing in line at the DMV.

    The snarks and jokes about the tyranny of drivers licenses is passe. You are either a complete dunce or you are the sort of fellow that thinks that Hermann Goering got a bad rap from history.

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