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NPR: Meet Jo Jorgensen

After four days of online campaigning and speechmaking, the Libertarian Party has selected its nominee. NPR’s Scott Simon speaks to Jorgensen, an activist who teaches psychology at Clemson University.


The Libertarian Party has nominated their candidates for president and vice president online. Jo Jorgensen, a party activist who teaches psychology at Clemson University, is the 2020 Libertarian candidate for president. She joins us now from Greenville, S.C. Dr. Jorgensen, thanks so much for being with us.

Read or listen to interview here.

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  1. Anthony Dlugos Anthony Dlugos May 31, 2020

    This is a predictably horrific interview.

    Apparently she didn’t even know Spike’s platform for the v.p. nomination did indeed include the policy of a “waffle house on every corner.”

    Suggesting private charity in response to 40 million people going unemployed as a result of the coronavirus/economic lockdown is batsh*t insane.

  2. Jared Jared June 1, 2020

    “SIMON: Well, [free ponies and a Waffle House on every corner] is not your platform. You mean – are you saying Spike Cohen never said that?

    JORGENSEN: What I’m saying is now that Spike Cohen has joined my team, we’ve got a combined platform that is mine.”


  3. Anthony Dlugos Anthony Dlugos June 1, 2020

    the whole interview was a disastrous ouch.

    the interviewer must have been incredulous when she responded to the reality of 40 million unemployed with, “private charity is great.”

    my god.

    I don’t know what is worse…the waffle house platform, the reference to Spike being an anarchist, or Jo’s reference to private charity.

    and that is just what I remember. Don’t have the stomach to re-listen.

  4. Jared Jared June 1, 2020

    I was too afraid to click play, so I just read the transcript.

  5. Anthony Dlugos Anthony Dlugos June 1, 2020

    your fear is well-founded.

    we picked the worst possible time to run someone who was going to stick to dogmatic, ivory tower libertarianism.

    I had hopes that she was going to have some sense of context.

  6. robert capozzi robert capozzi June 1, 2020

    Painfully out of touch

  7. Jared Jared June 1, 2020

    I suspect most “ivory tower libertarians” appreciate context, nuance, and gray areas of property theory and voluntary exchange, but are more attracted to think tanks such as the Cato Institute and have little to no faith in the Libertarian Party. I’m speaking of the neoclassical liberal types who bother to engage in actual philosophical debate and discuss directional reforms.

    Rothbardian absolutists are another story. LvMI academics in general seem perfectly content to remain on the fringe, scowling at those of us who doubt the moral superiority of anti-empiricist, anti-egalitarian, anti-democratic, Austrian anarcho-capitalism. For them, libertarianism is a moral science, and the science is settled.

  8. Anthony Dlugos Anthony Dlugos June 1, 2020


    its like you said before…2,000 who buy in, lock, stock, and barrel is better than any number who get the “broad brush strokes,” as J-W 2016 proposed.

    The best of them (I tentatively put JJ in this group) are nothing if not earnest. However counterproductive they are.

  9. Anthony Dlugos Anthony Dlugos June 1, 2020

    fair enough, Jared.

    Ivory Tower Libertarians is probably the wrong term, as people can interpret that term in multiple ways.

    I meant the people who apply the philosophy in a purely theoretical manner.

    Absolutists is better.

  10. Thomas Knapp Thomas Knapp June 2, 2020

    Haven’t listened to the interview. Don’t need to. I can tell based on Anthony Dlugos’s opinion of it that it was a hard-hitting pragmatic performance that busted a bunch of his utopian anti-realpolitik delusions.

  11. Anthony Dlugos Anthony Dlugos June 2, 2020


    in my defense I’m still reeling from the bill on that clutch.

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