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During the interview both Jones and Trump were very complimentary of each other and Roger Stone, Trump’s former top adviser who is still a vocal supporter of the billionaire.
Jones told Trump that 90 percent of his listeners were Trump supporters and the two took a moment to thank Stone for setting up the interview.
“Roger is a good guy and he is a patriot,” Trump said.
When he signed off at the end of the show, Trump promised to be successful for Jones: “Your reputation is amazing. I will not let you down,”
Trump ran for the Reform Party Presidential nomination in 2000, but dropped out. He is currently leading the Republican Presidential field, but continues to float talk of an independent run if he decides the Republican establishment is not fair to his campaign. Stone, a lifelong Republican political operative and long time friend of Donald Trump who still serves as a Trump surrogate/supporter/advisor, is considering a Libertarian run for US Senate in Florida, as is Augustus Invictus.
The three main takeaways you need to keep in mind in the Roger Stone-Donald Trump story are:
1. Roger Stone’s dirty tricks specialty is manipulating voter fractures, and weaponizing anti-establishment politics to serve the electoral needs of mainstream Republican candidates;
2. Roger Stone and Donald Trump have been working together since the mid-1980s, mostly on sleazy campaigns to help Trump’s casino business, but also in politics;
3. Roger Stone and Donald Trump worked together in at least two major “black bag” operations manipulating anti-establishment politics to help the mainstream Republican presidential candidate.
Ames concludes:
In their latest incarnations, Al Sharpton is an MSNBC black liberal and Democratic Party loyalist; Roger Stone is a Libertarian prankster fighting the two-party stranglehold; and Donald Trump is a right-wing populist shaking up the system because by gum, he just doesn’t care and he doesn’t need to care.
That’s one, very dumb, very gullible way of putting it.
Another way of putting it is this: Donald Trump and Roger Stone have spent the past few decades conning the public by exploiting fractures — anti-establishment politics, and anti-establishment outrages. Until now, there’s been a consistent logic and purpose to every single sleazy black bag “Trump/Stone operation”: elect the mainstream Republican candidate, and enrich Trump and Stone.
Do you really think this election is any different?
Full article with much more detail here.
Jesse Ventura is another longstanding friend and ally of Trump and Stone, and is also repeatedly discussing the possibility of a Libertarian or Independent Presidential run next year. Like Trump, he was floated as a possible Reform Party Presidential Candidate in 2000.
While Ames theorizes that the Trump phenomenon is aimed to help the Republican establishment, others have speculated that he is actually a false flag candidate whose purpose is to fracture the Republican vote and help elect Hillary Clinton.
Meanwhile, facing the growing likelihood that Trump can actually be unstoppable in his quest to claim the Republican nomination, speculation is also growing that it is the Republican establishment, not Trump, that will end up backing a well-financed independent.
Most of these scenarios involve Trump throwing the election to either Clinton or a Republican nominee, or perhaps an establishment Republican running as an independent. Few of them deal with the possibility that Trump could actually win the Presidency, either as the Republican nominee or as an Independent candidate. In 1992, Ross Perot led both Bush and Clinton in the polls before dropping out of and later dropping back into the race. Third party and independent candidates typically see their poll numbers shrink as the election approaches and actual results below what the polls project, but if Perot had sustained his early momentum he could not have been accused of being a “spoiler” or throwing the race, so the “wasted vote” claim could not have been applied. An example where a third party candidate overcame that effect was Jesse Ventura for Governor of Minnesota, who rose from 7% in initial polls to beat both the Republican and Democratic candidates. His numbers rose as the election approached and voters came to see him winning as more and more of a realistic possibility.
This is from Paul Joseph Watson, who works for Alex Jones at Infowars.com.
Is Donald Trump a Hillary Plant?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tzEhdaRxck
Donald Trump: The Establishment Candidate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt2NPP1z-y8
Disputed whether he was paid or not. He tried to sabotage the campaign near the end, which is where a big chunk of anti-Johnson spin on financials originates.
Wasn’t Stone on the Johnson2012 payroll for a few months?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUEy55r49fY
Several competing systems are now conspiring to cause Americans (including libertarians) to take the least-intelligent course of action. They are almost certain to succeed. Stone/Ventura/Trump are just one camp which lacks a consistent philosophy that maps to a possible free reality.
For that reason I will not follow them. For that reason, I won’t follow anyone.
I will come to the primary and general election polls armed with the knowledge of who is most libertarian. I will vote for that person.
However, I will not be bound by that president’s inheritance, the unconstitutional U.S. police state.
I may refer to things in Stone’s and Ventura’s books as likely being true, but I won’t support “package deal politicians” just because they foolishly support them.
Ames and Davidson make some good points here.
Not that Rand Paul is so great but why is Jones being so fawning with Trump then? Rand Paul doesn’t think much of Trump:
http://journal.ijreview.com/2015/08/246266-dont-fall-for-a-fake-conservative/ (he includes a common falsehood about Perot that is very thoroughly debunked in a link in the article we are commenting on above, but makes some pretty good points in the essay).
Neither does Gary Johnson or, as you pointed out, Ron Paul.
Maybe Alex Jones has reconsidered his support now that Sen. Paul is in 10th place at 1-2% and most likely off the debate stage.
Jones certainly makes it sound from the way he he talked in this interview like he will support Trump, not Johnson or whoever the LP nominates, if Trump is in the general election. And now that Rand Paul is so far behind that he is exceedingly unlikely to catch up, maybe Jones supports Trump in the primary as well.
The first 2 minutes and 45 seconds of that clip was very on point.
Ron Paul Reveals Why Donald Trump is Bad for America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i37cji5JmFw
I liked it better in the last election when Ron Paul was the maverick candidate making waves in the GOP primaries.
Incidentally, Alex Jones has already endorsed Rand Paul. He endorsed Ron Paul in the primaries for the last election, and he endorsed Gary Johnson in the general election.
Yes, and it’s an apt one, as discussed in prior threads.
A yes, the H comparison.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=site%3Adonaldjtrump.com+Hitler
The guy whose speeches he loves to study did the same thing as well in his own time.
Andy> I am wondering if Donald Trump is going to bolt from the GOP and run as an independent, and if he does,
Being at the top of the Republican polls lets him threaten to defect and be immune from punishment. This is the same issue that neither Ron Paul or Gary Johnson could pull off due to them being nowhere near the top of the polls during their presidential campaigns.
It may well be, but Jones was the one who said it.
See: https://tucker.liberty.me/the-eff-word-goes-mainstream/
He might. Or he may take their nomination and force them to run someone like Romney as an “independent.” Johnson advisers seems to think they may be able to get Ventura to run VP on LP. I don’t about that, but we’ll see.
I think that it is an exaggeration that 90% of Alex Jones listeners are supporting Donald Trump.
I think that a lot of the hoopla surrounding Trump is because he sounds like a maverick and sounds anti-establishment, plus he’s rich and famous. A lot of people are fed up with politics as usual and want somebody for whom they can root, so Trump is filling a void for a lot of disaffected people.
I am wondering if Donald Trump is going to bolt from the GOP and run as an independent, and if he does, I wonder if he will pick Jesse Ventura as his running mate. Things will get VERY interesting if this happens.
WTF, indeed!