Libertarian Presidential candidate Bob Barr says McCain is sure to lose election; gets hearing on ballot access case in Connecticut

Bob Barr says Sen. John McCain is on his “farewell tour” across America, as it has become clear that Sen. McCain has no realistic chance of winning the presidential election.

“The wheels on the Straight Talk Express have come off,” says Barr, the Libertarian Party’s nominee for president. “Sen. McCain will be spending the last two weeks before the election on his ‘farewell tour’ across America. Sen McCain’s mixed and angry message, as well as his support of big-spending policies, have killed any chance McCain may have had to win this election.”

Barr says this means Republican-leaning voters who are reluctant to vote for John McCain and his big government record, “can feel comfortable knowing that their vote for Bob Barr will be a vote for smaller government, less spending and lower taxes.”

“Now, principled conservatives can vote their conscience instead of voting for a faux-conservative just because he carries the Republican label,” explains Barr. “Small ‘L’ libertarians don’t have to vote defensively for the lesser of two evils because it is clear that McCain no longer has any realistic chance to win the election.”

“A vote for John McCain is a wasted vote,” says Barr.

Campaign manager Russell Verney elaborates:

It is now clear: John McCain cannot win the election.

There is not one reasonable poll suggesting that he has a chance. While Republicans have long dominated absentee ballot collections and early voting, this year, this is not the case.

In other news for the campaign, Ballot Access News reports:

The Libertarian Party’s lawsuit to get Bob Barr on the Connecticut ballot has oral arguments on Thursday, October 23, at 11 a.m. in federal court in Bridgeport. The case is Libertarian Party of Connecticut v Byskewicz, 3:08-cv-1513, before Judge Janet Hall. This is the first in-person hearing the case has had, even though the attorneys and the judge had previously held a status conference on the phone. It would be helpful if people who are interested in this case would attend. The Libertarian Party submitted enough valid signatures on the deadline, but the state says that (1) it is too late to reprint all the ballots; (2) the lawsuit is barred by the Eleventh Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The Eleventh Amendment says people cannot sue states in federal courts. People always get around it by suing state officials, rather than the state itself. The Eleventh Amendment argument has never worked to defeat a ballot access lawsuit, in any state, ever.

The only reason that Barr isn’t already on the ballot in Connecticut is because the town clerks did a poor job of checking signatures, and invalidated signatures that were valid.

On October 25, 1990, the U.S. Supreme Court forced Cook County, Illinois, to reprint 3,000,000 ballots, because the Court felt that elections officials had erred by leaving the Harold Washington Party off the ballot. Also in 1990, Minnesota reprinted all its in-precinct ballots only a week before the general election, because the Republican nominee for Governor had resigned from the ticket and been replaced by another Republican nominee.

38 thoughts on “Libertarian Presidential candidate Bob Barr says McCain is sure to lose election; gets hearing on ballot access case in Connecticut

  1. Ross Levin

    Barr’s vote total may actually get boosted a good deal by people who were thinking of voting McCain but instead will say, “Screw it, he’s going to lose anyway.”

  2. Trent Hill

    An AP poll just came out that had John McCain down by 1%…so it may not be as lopsided as Barr things.

    But I sure hope it is.

  3. Mike Gillis

    McCain’s dead in the water.

    Just look at http://www.electoral-vote.com

    Obama has nearly 264 of the 270 EC votes he needs in states where he has at least a 10% lead. And more than enough in states with a 5-9% lead.

    He can win the election and lose in all of the so-called swing states.

    Unless McCain single handedly captures Osama bin Laden or stops an asteroid from hitting the Earth, or if Obama pulls off his mask to reveal he’s actually an alien from the movie “V”, then this election is all over.

  4. Fred Church Ortiz

    Obama will not win Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Missouri, or Pennsylvania. I doubt he will win Colorado or Nevada, but concede the possibility. McCain 308: Obama 257

  5. Mike Gillis

    “Obama will not win Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Missouri, or Pennsylvania. ”

    Here’s the thing: Based on the polls, he won’t need to. He’s nearly won with only the dark blue safe states. All he needs are one or two “leaning blue” states and he’s got it.

    McCain on the other hand is having to devote resources to states that should be safely red.

    But you’re wrong about PA. Obama has a massive lead there and it consistently grows with every poll.

  6. Mike Gillis

    Oh, and by the way, the McCain camp has already openly conceded Colorado and pulled its resources out of there.

    Obama has the money to continue to campaign there, while expanding into red states.

    But again, all Obama has to do is hold on to easy states where he has at least a 10+% lead and a small handful of states that lean his way and he’ll win easily.

    As it stands now, he can lose every swing state and will still be president.

  7. Fred Church Ortiz

    That would explain a McCain victory. Hopefully Obama is more courageous than Kerry.

    Obama will lose “fair and square”.

    Here’s the thing: Based on the polls, he won’t need to. He’s nearly won with only the dark blue safe states. All he needs are one or two “leaning blue” states and he’s got it.

    Several states on my list are considered “dark blue”. I am in disagreement with the polling consensus.

    McCain on the other hand is having to devote resources to states that should be safely red.

    McCain is an idiot in that way, and I will not enjoy his presidency.

    But you’re wrong about PA. Obama has a massive lead there and it consistently grows with every poll.

    PA is the state I am most certain of. Murtha is understating the issue he should have never brought up.

  8. Fred Church Ortiz

    Oh, and by the way, the McCain camp has already openly conceded Colorado and pulled its resources out of there.

    I conceded it as well in my count.

    Obama has the money to continue to campaign there, while expanding into red states.

    This will not help him.

  9. Mike Gillis

    Ross,

    With polls where they’re at, it would be nigh impossible to steal this election through electronic fraud and not get caught.

    In situations like Florida 2000 and Ohio 2004, you had elections decided in one, very tight state.

    However, in what appears to be a massive Democratic blowout, you would have to defraud so many votes on such a massive scale to make up the difference that it would be near impossible to pull this off and make it look plausible.

    In the dark blue states alone, Obama has almost all of the EC votes he needs. He need only win ten more to claim victory.

    The number of votes the GOP would have to steal would be mind boggling. Defrauding just a few thousands or even tens of thousands just won’t be enough.

    Obama has pulled so far ahead that even North Dakota is looking like a potential swing state. Obama won’t win it, but the fact that he could even tie there in a poll shows how far this race is swinging his way.

    I just can’t see any scenario at this point, especially with so much early and absentee voting already happening, where I can see McCain even squeaking out a victory.

  10. Fred Church Ortiz

    We’ll just have to see on election day, Fred.

    I think you’ll be dead wrong.

    The possibility of this is strong, as I am completely contradicting experts of all related topics, both expert and amateur. But if I didn’t think it was right as of now, I would not post it. Prediction made.

  11. Trent Hill

    Im also predicting a huge Democratic blowout.

    Obama wont win PA, but that is the only traditionally blue state he won’t win, whereas many red-leaning states are within striking distance of Obama.

    Why wont Obama win PA? PA Politics is strange, and they DO NOT experience election blowouts. It will get close, within single digits before the election–and then many white Democrats will vote for McCain based on racism or anger over Hillary Clinton being defeated.
    In PA, Obama wont have that significant “New black wave” (new registered voters, who are black) to help him out. The urban centers have large black populations, but he couldn’t possibly mobilize Philadelphia and Pittsburg anymore than Kerry did.

    In the South–it WILL be more competitive than most people think. North Carolina, Georgia, and Louisiana will all be closer than the polls predict.

  12. paulie cannoli Post author

    Unless McCain single handedly captures Osama bin Laden or stops an asteroid from hitting the Earth, or if Obama pulls off his mask to reveal he’s actually an alien from the movie “V”, then this election is all over.

    Maybe not even then.

  13. paulie cannoli Post author

    Im also predicting a huge Democratic blowout.

    Me too.

    With polls where they’re at, it would be nigh impossible to steal this election through electronic fraud and not get caught.

    I agree.

    Obama wont win PA

    I think he will.

    The urban centers have large black populations, but he couldn’t possibly mobilize Philadelphia and Pittsburg anymore than Kerry did.

    Easily. Kerry was boring. And white.

  14. paulie cannoli Post author

    In the South–it WILL be more competitive than most people think. North Carolina, Georgia, and Louisiana will all be closer than the polls predict.

    I agree.

  15. songster7

    The issue here, at least for those of us who still consider promoting liberty as the real purpose of a Libertarian Party …

    is this: Does the Barr campaign have a measurable effect on altering the outcome of the election? In this case, is the marginal vote allegedly being shaved off McClown’s totals, as “true Republicans” come over to [gulp!] the LP nominee … making a difference?

    Or is Obama by now so far ahead anyway that nothing short of that “V” scenario could stop him from being elected … with NO credit or blame laid at the feet of Libertarians, or Greens or anyone else … just the usual shift to the other side of the War Party, after 8 years of kingdom under the Rs?

    we kinda know that’s how the MSM and the general public will see it … Is Barr merely trying to claim a “victory” that he had little or no part in creating … and what will it mean when the outcome is just more Big Gummint, tho with a slightly variant agenda?

  16. Catholic Trotskyist

    Pennsylvania does experience blowouts. What about Bob Casey Jr in 2006?

    I must say, though Bob Barr and Mike Gillis have been my adversaries this year, I now forgive them, as they have now conceeded the greatness of our Holy Divine Messenger Barack Obama, as they have acknowledged his inevitable victory in this holy election, amen. However, I still ask all, whether religious or not, to pray for Revolutionary General Barack H. Obama, especially Fred. Obama’s only disappointment was Daniel Imperato endorsing McCain instead of joining the Catholic Trotskyist Party where he belongs. And also not getting the pope’s endorsement, but perhaps this will happen also.

    Please pray for the pope, please pray for Joe Biden, Please pray for Barack Obama. Please pray for Chuck Baldwin to win Thursday’s debate to counteract Criminal Nader. Amen.

  17. Trent Hill

    “Obama will not win Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Missouri, or Pennsylvania. ”

    I suspect he’ll win Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, and Missouri–but lose PA.

  18. Trent Hill

    “Me: The urban centers have large black populations, but he couldn’t possibly mobilize Philadelphia and Pittsburg anymore than Kerry did.

    You: Easily. Kerry was boring. And white.”

    Clearly you aren’t familiar with the GOTV effort in PA that has been the model for all democrats since then. They estimated that they had MAXIMIZED turnout in Pittsburg and Philadelphia. Add the black voters Obama will pull in, but minus the white democrats who will vote for McCain instead–and you’ve got numbers (percentages,really) even with Kerry. His GOTV effort in PA was monumental.

  19. paulie cannoli Post author

    Trent, have you ever lived in a ghetto? (I have, a good chunk of my life).

    I don’t care how good their GOTV was in 2004. If you think they registered everyone they could have…no way. I’m going to guess hands down that more people registered this year for the first time.

    But there is another factor, which is rural, suburban, white, independent, regular non-voters and even normally Republican voters who will vote Democratic this year. Mostly because of the economy, some because of the war. This will be just as true in Pennsylvania as everywhere else.

  20. Mike Gillis

    Yeah, I just can’t see Obama losing PA or this election.

    And I say this as someone that despises his phony, corporate, unprogressive, pro-war, anti-civil liberties guts.

  21. Trent Hill

    “Trent, have you ever lived in a ghetto? (I have, a good chunk of my life). ”

    Never. But I have studied, vigorously, the GOTV effort in 2004 PA and the demographics of that state. I was paid to, and trust me–No way Obama can swing a better GOTV effort than Kerry did in the urban centers of PA. He might get a boost from a few extra nominally-republican voters, but he’ll lose just as many from white democrats who WONT vote him,for whatever reason.

  22. Trent Hill

    Oh–and expect Barr to pull more in PA than any previous LP Presidential candidate. With no CP prez candidate on the ballot for the first time in CP history and Ron Paul’s successes there–look for Barr to break records in that regard.

  23. Trent Hill

    I agree. But I don’t think it can be done ANY better than that. My arguement wasnt neccesarily about the entirety of PA–just that I dont think Obama can beat the GOTV effort Kerry put on in the urban centers of PA.

  24. darolew

    I think Obama has this one in the bag, unless there’s a Bradley effect of epic proportions (not impossible).

    Probably a good thing for third parties seeking to maximize their vote totals. And, looking further ahead, this might be good for Ron Paul and other libertarian/”true-conservative” Republicans. I mean, if McCain wins, then either McCain or (more likely) Palin or another McCain Administration official would run for (and likely get) the GOP nomination in 2012, which would only further entrench the big government neoconservatives in the GOP (if that’s even possible).

  25. Trent Hill

    There actually is no such thing as “the Bradley effect”. Or maybe there is, but it shouldnt be named after Bradley.

  26. G.E.

    Obama will not win Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Missouri, or Pennsylvania. I doubt he will win Colorado or Nevada, but concede the possibility. McCain 308: Obama 257

    Ha! There’s no way McCain wins Ohio.

    Of the states you mentioned, I’d say Colorado and Nevada are the two MOST LIKELY to swing to McCain.

    The Power Elite have spoken. Obama is their man. If the election is rigged it will be in his favor.

  27. paulie cannoli Post author

    I agree. But I don’t think it can be done ANY better than that. My arguement wasnt neccesarily about the entirety of PA–just that I dont think Obama can beat the GOTV effort Kerry put on in the urban centers of PA.

    Again, I think this misses the question of who is a voter. I am going to suggest that there were people who resisted registering to vote in 2004 but did register this time.

    But even if you are right, it is insufficient to prove your larger thesis (that McCain will carry Pennsylvania).

    Let’s put it this way: I have relatives in Northeast Philly who may vote for Obama, even though they usually vote Republican and generally dislike black people (and that’s putting it mildly). Why? Their pensions just lost close to half their value in the stock market, and the tumble is not over. Their flip houses have sunk like a rock, their credit lines are tightening like a noose around their necks, and their tax write-off side businesses are in the toilet.

    I know these people. I just saw some of them at my sister’s wedding. If they are even considering voting for Obama, McCain is toast. He may as well start polishing his golf clubs and studying up on shuffleboard.

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  29. Old Whig

    Here’s my unexpert opinion:
    Obama 54% with 350+ electoral votes
    McCain 42% with 188- electoral votes
    Everybody else devides the rest in this order:
    Nader
    Barr
    Baldwin
    McKenny

  30. millerpolitics

    For starters, Bob Barr has been on his “farewell tour” since he won the Libertarian presidential nomination.

    Secondly, Mr. Barr, why should “principled conservatives” vote for you? You are the one that has switched your position on a number of issues after you lost the Republican nomination for Congress and then decided to join the Libertarian Party.

    Had Barr won re-nomination, I believe that he would still be a Republican today holding the same positions he did prior to his loss.

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