Earlier, we reported about the California Green Party’s efforts to fight Prop 8, which they and many others have called prop H 8 (hate). The California Libertarian Party has many members who are also working to overturn this proposition, and the party officially opposed its passage (see the front page of the October issue of California Freedom).
Last year, the executive committee of the California LP voted unanimously to send this letter to Governor Schwarzenegger, urging him to sign AB 43, which legalized gay marriage in the Golden State.
hey im a highschool student and we have to do reasearch on a political party…what exactly is the Libertarian party about?
Joseph, sorry I’ve been away, I have had to work on real life activities, and I had an Internet outage, but I will make that e-mail account sometime tonight. Perhaps we can run on your Libertine Party ticket and create a fusion with my Catholic Trotskyist Party ticket.
I agree with you on your national security, Iraq and immigration platforms. Otherwise:
Economy: Nationalize every corporation and business. No free markets.
Education: Increase spending on education, to improve the public schools. Allow government scholarships to private colleges as it is now, but not private primary/secondary schools.
Healthcare: Nationalize healthcare, implement socialized medicine.
Foreign policy: Attempt to have the United Nations take over the entire world, combining all the assets of all the governments of the world into one world government, which will then end war, and give all necessary services including education, healthcare, infrastructure and police. Then no worries about immigration either. In the meantime, continue negotiations with all countries, decrease support for Israel. Weaken Department of Defense, create Department of Peace.
Abortion: Work toward banning abortion whenever possible, but keep sentences light. Increase the general government support for organized religion, especially the Catholic church, for anti-abortion education programs, charity, education, and pro-family/anti-divorce, anti-gay marriage, and anti-cloning programs.
Ethics: Maintain congressional and judicial probes at all times.
http://pauliecannoli.wordpress.com/2006/12/29/liberty-loves-justice-2/
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2006.12.29 at 08.40.16 Seth
Um, well, the village voice wasn’t the original source… my mistake.
http://www.mirkoilic.com is the artist, and that image is shown there, among lots of others.
Beats me, but I found it and loved it.
It went over big at the Riverside protest on Saturday, too!
And also thanks for the blog quote at #38. 😀
Great pic! I have had it (without text) on my site for years, and I love what you did with it.
I used to know who drew the original graphic, but I forgot.
Thanks for posting my protest sign graphic, paulie!
Just going to attack the government on our site. instead of saying we’re going to cut cut cut all of these popular programs, attack the status quo.
I’m the leader of the party. no convention on that, sorry
return America to the values of the old west
It won’t be a party of hate and anger lol Cut government down in all levels, maximize the individual. A party not limited to certain things like the Libertarian Party.
“democratic anarchism” so to speak
Hey Paulie,
I registered Libertine Party.com
Say hello to America’s newest political party.
:p lol
the world’s population will adjust accordingly and we’ll have a technological boom that makes the 19th century of discovery look like a trip to the liberty science center in contrast to the massive output of pure and unadulterated genius that will arise out of a true free market.
yeah, baby!
Then everyone will be free. Free will. Voluntaryism. Self-rule. Choice. Individualism. That’s what it is all about
at the state level you try to eliminate as much as you can. it’s all about the individual. attack the state apparatus as much as you can. I’m no Ron Paul, it’s ok to compromise on the means, but not on the ends
the US government shouldn’t “privatize” a thing. It has no right to. That’s fascism. The government should just abandon all of its assets. “First come, first serve”
Then we should end the department of defense and only have voluntary military or leave defense to member-states.
Actually, I think the fed gov should be ideally be funded voluntarily by member-states or by funds raised proportionate to the populations of each member-state.
though not the ideal, flat tax still beats the current federal income tax
CT, did you create your email yet?
Economy – free markets
Ethics & corruption – cut government bureaucracy
National security – eliminate the dept. of homeland security
Education – eliminate the department of education
Health care – end federal mandates on states, leave the issue to states
Taxes – cut, cut, cut, a flat tax would be an improvement to the corporate loop holes being gamed with the current system. there are also some other good ideas, but I’m not in favor of a national sales tax
Iraq – leave it
Social Security – eliminate it at the federal level
Abortion – leave the issue to states, I’m pro-choice
Immigration – leave the issue to states, I’m personally for open borders
Where are you at, CT? 😀
And equality before the law should not be held hostage because of the immoral existence of the welfare state. In this regard, it is much like the immigration issue.
Exactly.
Sorry Joseph for not responding, I had some important civic activities to attend to in the last few hours, and I will be gone for another few hours in order to attend Holy Catholic mass. I will be creating another e-mail account to strengthen my ananimity for the time being, and then we will exchange information.
Good idea in the long run, but we should have equality in the meantime.
Yes, I agree. There is no reasonable basis for restricting licensees.
And equality before the law should not be held hostage because of the immoral existence of the welfare state. In this regard, it is much like the immigration issue.
There you go; just get rid of the state, and everything would be perfect.
Utopia is not possible. This is the touchstone of rational thinkers, especially as it pertains to government.
The new owner of IPR should try to implement an “ignore†feature.
No different than what you do now, which is just call everyone commie or socialist and completely ignore reason and nuance.
There’s this nifty little thing on your keyboard called the “scroll” button…
Good idea in the long run, but we should have equality in the meantime.
Libertarians should focus on the real issue, eliminating the licensing of marriage. Marriage is not something that the state should have any say in.
CT, shall be exchange numbers? Emails? Let’s do it! 🙂
There you go; just get rid of the state, and everything would be perfect.
Not perfect, but I think it would be a lot better (although not immediately). However, in the meantime we have short term reality to deal with, so I agree with NO ON H8.
The balloting is done, and it appears that 52% of Californians believed in the lying hype put forth by the bigots who put forth this crock of a Proposition.
So what now?
REJECT THE FUCKING STATE, COMMIE.
There you go; just get rid of the state, and everything would be perfect. Everyone would have the choice of subscribing to a defence agency that recognized SSM or one that did not, and whether a SS couple were married or not would depend on what property they were on and which type of agency the property owner subscribed to. No possibility of any political conflicts in that rosy scenario.
The new owner of IPR should try to implement an “ignore” feature.
REJECT THE FUCKING STATE, COMMIE.
You’re like a child.
We should run every four years even though I’m too young for POTUS in order to build popularity.
How about that? 😉
We should probably form our own party, the Alliance for New Strategies, or something like that, but try to get the endorsement of the Green, Libertarian, Constitution, and the many socialist parties, and the Naderite parties, the Kucinich/Gravel Democrats, and the Ron Paul Republicans.
Which party or parties? 😉
Good. The proud statist and the anti-statist confuse the moderate statist political establishment. With almost 30 years to prepare, we may even win.
Sure, CT. Let’s do it.
Joseph, the lack of state/church power has failed time and time again. Your system would create even more bloodshed. On the other hand, I agree with you that nations are fictional. I want United Nations control over the world, with a one-world government.
Failing that, let’s run a presidential campaign together in 2036.
Libertarian Joseph/Catholic Trotskyist for 2036. I’d even agree to be the running mate. Our campaign would be a constant argument, and would be very entertaining. It would be more successful than any other effort, and more noteworthy.
Trent,
I warned you. Now you’re in the doghouse.
“Trent, intolerant of my views…. which, ironically, you claim are your own, yet you attack me lol.”
1.) That wouldnt make me a bigot.
2.) Your views are boilerplates that you dont even understand
3.) Your views are not consistent
4.) Iv said very little abot your views, it is your senseless insults that im intolerant of.
CT, the state has failed time and time again. You are a bloodthirsty bastard.
Trent, intolerant of my views…. which, ironically, you claim are your own, yet you attack me lol.
“And you’re an intolerant bigot, Trent.”
Oh? Tell me about it. I’d love to hear how you came to this conclusion.
Yes, I am a proud statist, because the state and the church are necessary to socialize the population. The way in which it should be done is the key disagreement among non-libertarians.
God bless the state, God bless the chucrch, God bless the Federal Reserve, and God bless Proposition 8.
Glory to God in the highest, and peace to God’s people on Earth, amen.
And you’re an intolerant bigot, Trent.
CT, hush.
The key to world civilization is the end of statist tyranny. Trent is a statist, and so are you.
Trent,
I swear – if you respond to LJ again, you’re sleeping on the couch tonight. You can use the big nazi flag in the den to cover up if it gets too cold. We won’t need it until the universal health care march next week, so there’s plenty of time to get it cleaned.
No, Trent is not a fascist. And you got my ideology wrong because you said it is wacked out, when it is really the key to world civilization.
REJECT THE FUCKING STATE, COMMIE.
Dude, you dont know ANYTIHNG about me. I consider Mencken, Nock, and S. Andrew Swann as my dominant ideological influences.
You claim to have been around IPR for a long time and yet you know LESS about me (or any of the writers) than any other commenter here. You are not a thoughtful libertarian, you are a libertine idiot.
Truth hurts, Trent. fascist
My apologies to Andy–he is now 2nd on my “if banning existed at IPR” list.
“Democracy†is preferable to judicial tyranny.
Judicial review is an important check and balance on democracy.
http://muddythoughts.blogspot.com/2008/11/on-proposition-8.html
“Democracy” is preferable to judicial tyranny.
I’m a liar because I got your ideology wrong? Or what?
Right.
That’s funny since I don’t recall ever talking about your whacked out ideology on these here boards.
Doesn’t this fact hereby make you a liar? 🙂
Yes, Libertarian Joseph is definitely a liar. He got my ideology wrong too.
What’s up with your nazi propaganda posters of jews, Paulie? Are you a neo-nazi?
assume you’re either a liar, or a moron. Perhaps both.
Yes. So you should stop feeding him responses.
Trent, know what? Been around where? I just told you that there is not much info about you on this site, are you THAT dense?
Consistent? Paulie is inconsistent. He defended GP policies of universal healthcare and direct democracy on other articles!
Why is a man that inconsistent caucusing with the Radicals in the LP? hmm
LJ,
Again–you show you know nothing of me. Me and Paulie disagree on MANY MANY MANY issues. But I respect Paulie because he’s a consistent advocate of liberty, and an agreeable person.
I do not talk about myself in my articles because they arent ABOUT me. But many commenters here know my ideology. If you’ve been around as long as you claim–you’d know. You dont, so ill assume you’re either a liar, or a moron. Perhaps both.
I must also update you on my negotations with Daniel Imperato to buy this website and turn it into a major Catholic voice for international liberation. As of yet there has been no response, but I expect there may be at some point.
Trent, are you and Paulie bf and bf? lol. Ha. Anyway, I’m not new to this site, I’ve been lurking IPR and TPW for a long time. I used to post on TPW.
How would I know more about you through the articles? You never talk about yourself in them.
I do you moron. Im friends with people in both the Radical and Reform Caucuses. You are VERY new to this site and know nothing about me–you might as well give up.
Trent. You already know he’s a troll. Responding to trolls=feeding.
There’s a difference between voting NO and then seeking to overturn it via the courts afterwards.
There is? Surely you are not a government democracy proponent?
If prop H8 was wrong before the vote, did the vote make it right?
“Why would he want to? They’re mostly statist aholes.”
I disagree with that. But then again, im not an anarchist.
I do you moron. Im friends with people in both the Radical and Reform Caucuses. You are VERY new to this site and know nothing about me–you might as well give up.
Why would he want to? They’re mostly statist aholes.
I will side with my fellow alleged troll Libertarian Joseph on this one. The state licensing system needs to go, and until then, the gays must have equal rights. However, I am still glad about the passage of Proposition 8 because God has blessed it in order to have the peoples voice heard who still believe in the nuclear family and the supremacy of God on earth.
Why don’t you know many people in the LP?
There’s a difference between voting NO and then seeking to overturn it via the courts afterwards. Also, there’s a big difference between voting NO on repealing gay state marriage, and advocating that it’s a “civil right” before its implemented.
Again, you dont know me in the slightest. I criticize the CP heavily on a number of issues, including gambling, gay marriage, pornography, and protectionism.
As for me being the CP correspondant. I still report on the CP because I still know many people IN the CP.
Are you done casting darts in the dark?
I know you always defend the CP and I know you’re the “CP correspondent”
“Then why are you a CP member?”
Im not. =)
And even when I was, I was a free-trader. Again,you know nothing about me.
Disgraceful.
What is? I thought you said you would vote no on 8. Or were you referring to something else?
Disgraceful.
ha #14 was very relevant to this article.
Blow me, paulie boy.
Then why are you a CP member?
HAHAHHA.
You know NOTHING about me. Im a Misesian free-marketeer.
Trent, you are a total protectionist.
LJ,
You are a total troll.
Quick clarification: I don’t necessarily oppose (or support) democracy involuntary institutions. I do oppose coercive monopoly government with any governing structure, including democracy.
Oops, big typo:
in voluntary, not involuntary.
I do, necessarily, oppose involuntary…
You were voicing support for DD on another article, no? ha.
Troll? Yeah, that’s what you call all true libertarians that call you out for the phony that you are.
Quick clarification: I don’t necessarily oppose (or support) democracy involuntary institutions. I do oppose coercive monopoly government with any governing structure, including democracy.
For anyone reading who is not aware that LJ is a troll, and/or is not familiar with my views, I oppose democracy, whether direct or indirect.
Just Paulie is for direct-democracy.
Another “pro-liberty/pro-democracy†party that doesn’t want to accept the will of the people.
Where did you get the idea that the Libertarians are a pro-democracy party?
Another “pro-liberty/pro-democracy” party that doesn’t want to accept the will of the people.
Not a big issue for me… but gays should be allowed to marry as long as we have this retarded state licensing system.