Danny S., agreed. The party & the activists & the candidates are just going to have to educate the voters. & the hope is that once it catches on the polling should rise. THEN, when voters say to themselves “this just might work. worth a try” THAT’s when more & more of the maximum constituency(bloc) poll favorably & support & contribute & volunteer etc. It will take time & energy to overcome the longstanding “mindset”.
Michael Seebeck
September 25, 2009
Michael @26: I’ve seen that graph and it is very true. So is the one that showed the effect of the MMR vaccine was zilch.
Milnes @28: Nothing. I don’t have any daughters, and if I did, Gardasil is the last thing they would get short of a bullet.
Besides, if you studied biochemistry then you should already know how body pH interacts with cancer cells, and you should know how the modern diet fucks up the body’s pH and promotes cancerous cell growth.
Danny S
September 25, 2009
Milnes- two major flaws to your plan. 1) You can’t necessarily get those voters to coordinate. Party activists and hierarchy can announce that is the strat. But the individual voter can ignore it and say, “in some areas, I am diametrically opposed. Not worth my vote”
Second, that assumes the maximum constituency will necessarily vote for a third party. It does nothing to assure victory or change the mindset of a “wasted vote”, even though that framework is flawed.
Dondero,
anybody can jump onto a bandwagon and grab some votes.
Michael H. Wilson
September 25, 2009
RM @ 28 did you read the stories about the side effects?
I just read about the AIDS vaccine. 69% failure rate = 31% success rate. Whereas up to now an effective AIDS vaccine was just a wild hope. I say 31% is better than 0%. & I support such research. I just wish I could help; biochemistry was my major in college. Instead I got bogged down with depression, neurotic women & political burnout.
Michael H. Wilson
September 24, 2009
re: @ 25 MS.
Somewhere around here I have a graph that shows that the polio epidemic was on the downward decline when they started immunzation. If true that is rather interesting.
Michael Seebeck
September 24, 2009
Only in your utter ignorance, Milnes. My health is from a superior organic scratch diet absent as much processed foods as possible, and a boosted immune system from vitamins and herbal supplements, not from injections of formaldehyde, aborted fetal tissue, monkey guts, MSG, squalene (unapproved for use in the US because of its effects), thimerosal, and spermicides. Not luck, Milnes, just solid research, a lot of testing to see what works and what doesn’t, and knowledge of what is healthy and what is not, and proper diet. Repressing one’s immune system is most definitely not healthy, just from the imbalance of the T1 and T3 production in the gut by itself. Yet that is exactly what the toxic sludge that is vaccines do!
BTW, the AIDS vaccine they’re reporting on today was ineffective in 69 per 100 recipients. Navy crew are DYING from swine flu vaccine tests, which are also being given to pregnant women, whom NEVER should be getting vaccines, period, and Gulf War Syndrome is now linked to the squalene in the anthrax vaccines given those troops. Not to mention the ongoing toxic heavy metal poisoning that the shots do to cause things liker ASDs and Alzheimer’s…
So much for vaccine effectiveness…
And to further dispel your stupidity, Milnes, I had all those vaccines while in school and stopped afterward when I learned better. So you can’t blame my parents and schools at all, unless you want to blame them for not knowing better, but nobody did back then, either. I am by no means increasing any childhood disease rates, either, because A) My son is disease-free and vaccine-free, meaning he is not carrying or transmitting those diseases, live or killed, in his system, and B) rising childhood disease is directly correlated to the increase in the vaccine demands on the children plus the increase in processed foods in their diets and lack of outdoor exercise. Had you ever done any research on the subject you would know that as well. The diseases you claim should have been conquered years ago all live at USAMRIID at Fort Dietrick MD (where the anthrax scam originated), and some, such as polio, are on the rise again in third-world nations DESPITE mass vaccinations.
The fact is, the vaccinations don’t do squat except screw up the immune system, just like their evil bastard cousin chemotherapy (except that’s much worse!). The decrease in vaccinated diseases has come from increase in better hygiene and sanitation and safer handling of food, water, animals, and plants and NOT from vaccines.
But what do I know outside a mountain of research into actual health instead swallowing Big Pharma’s lines?
Michael Seebeck, if you are’…almost completely vaccine-free…” then your parents & schools are negligent. & you are very lucky AND benefiting from the majority who did get vaccines which prevents the spread of disease. PLUS you are a part of the present problem of rising childhood disease rates. Diseases that should have been conquered decades ago.
I don’t know about people in the LPMO, but people here in the LPCA don’t ask “how high?” when LP leaders order them to jump.
Again, all I’m hearing here is the crickets chirp as you guys fail to name a single one of these Root-controlled robots who was persuaded to switch from Ruwart to Barr after their man Root was out.
Barr and Root endorsed each other because there was no downside and nothing but possible upside. That tells us nothing about the magnitude of the actual upside, about which I’m asking for evidence. Do you have any, or not?
For my part, I can name one person who voted for Root on the penultimate ballot, and who was utterly immune to Root’s orders about who to vote for: me. In fact, I voted for Kubby over Root in the VP race, and for Phillies over Root on the first ballot.
George claims that Root persuaded at least 25 people to switch from Ruwart to Barr. I would dearly love to study one of these 25 people. I want to investigate techniques of mind-controlling NatCon delegates who have radical sympathies. That could prove useful in St. Louis.
“Tom, in what universe could Barr not have beaten Ruwart on the last ballot without the pro-forma and fore-ordained endorsement that Root delivered?”
The universe where Barr considered Root’s endorsement important enough to merit an offer of reciprocal endorsement for VP — which just happens to be this one.
“Did you seriously expect Root and his supporters to have no clear preference between Barr and Ruwart?”
I very much expected a majority of Root delegates to prefer Barr to Ruwart, but it doesn’t follow from that that Root’s endorsement had no impact.
Remember, Ruwart was BEATING Barr as of the 5th ballot. It was going to take more than a slim majority of Root supporters to tip the scales back to Barr.
As it happens, it took around 2/3 of Root’s supporters to put Barr over the top, and if as few as 25 of his 165 5th-ballot supporters had gone the other way, the nomination would also have gone the other way.
I’m tempted to ask what universe YOU live in where Wayne Allyn Root is so unpersuasive with his own supporters that his endorsement had no impact. Even WITH his endorsement for Barr, 1 of every 3 Root voters went to Ruwart instead. In what universe would that number have not been higher had Root declined to endorse at all, or endorsed Ruwart?
Michael Seebeck
September 24, 2009
That’s because they see your return address and don’t bother, Milnes.
And you don’t seem to know much about vaccines either. Perhaps you’ve had one too many needles to the head? It would certainly explain your state rather well, that of a dateless deranged lunatic. My almost completely vaccine-free state would also explain mine as well–healthy, happily married, and completely sane, albeit very cynical.
But keep on keepin’ on, Milnes–we either just laugh at you or skip your rants anyway!
Michael seebeck, my letters go into the trash unopened along with the vaccine poison? Hmmmmm……I see. I rather think using the mental illness excuse to fill up the detainment camps would fit libertarians better. All they’d have to do is strap you down & force inject you with swine/bird flu vaccine. There is no such vaccine/poison for mental illness.
Of course Ruwart wouldn’t endorse Root. What were you & Moulton waiting for, Brian, Hell to freeze over? Her mistake was not grasping victory from the hands of defeat by joining my Independent fusion ticket.
Michael Seebeck
September 24, 2009
Brian, why are you copy and pasting the same reply @16 on two different threads?
Milnes, you realize that your letters go into the trash unopened, right?
Geoffrey, Redpath is not “well-spoken” at all. In fact, he is a man out of his depth doing boilerplate responses and has shown himself to be nothing more than a ventriloquist dummy for certain others on the LNC. Whoop-dee-doo. He shoulda stuck to ballot access.
Peter, the light at the end of the tunnel that Redpath refers to is the oncoming train of medically-induced martial law over the swine flu hysteria and overhype that the LP is remarkably and unconscionably silent about, not to mention its looming partner in Obamacare. I’m pretty sure it’s occurred to others besides me that the swine and bird flu (yes, they’re bringing that back to add to the hype and hysteria) is the excuse to force the socializes hell-th care on all of us, mainly because they’re expecting resistance from doctors and people to getting the vaccine poisons.
Yet the LP is SILENT on all of this, possibly the biggest threat to our freedom since 1775. WHY???
Aroundtheblockafewtimes, I forget who, but someone recently proposed doing away with lifetime memberships. Seems too easy to just buy. & since it applies to Ron Paul, I found this proposal very interesting. I favor it.
Tom, in what universe could Barr not have beaten Ruwart on the last ballot without the pro-forma and fore-ordained endorsement that Root delivered? Did you seriously expect Root and his supporters to have no clear preference between Barr and Ruwart? I bet you cannot find even one Root voter on the penultimate ballot who would say that Root’s endorsement swung his vote from Ruwart to Barr. Root’s endorsement speechlet was completely unmemorable to me, and I’d love to know what kind of a Ruwart supporter it could have transmogrified into a Barr supporter.
This urban legend — of Root taking the nomination from Ruwart and handing it to Barr — is obviously more about spin for 2012 than it is about the facts of 2008.
As I wrote the day after the convention: It was mathematically obvious from the second ballot onward that the only way to stop Barr would be for Ruwart to endorse Root. Chuck Moulton and I were sitting together speculating when it would happen, but it never did. Barr would have never accepted a V.P. spot, so a Ruwart endorsement would have guaranteed either a Root/Ruwart ticket or a Root/Kubby ticket (depending on whether Mary wanted the veep slot). Those would have been my preferred tickets, but Ruwart’s insistence Sunday on a doomed last stand did more in three hours to make the LP potentially “Republican lite” than the Reform Caucus did in three years. I hope Ruwart wasn’t more interested in remaining the standard-bearer of anarcholibertarian purity than she was in the LP remaining the standard-bearer of political libertarianism. Since our nominating process is like a microcosm of America’s electoral system, this is an ironic little lesson about how keeping one’s hands spotless is not always the choice that best serves the cause of liberty.
Aroundtheblockafewtimes
September 24, 2009
Mr. Milnes, I hear you. So get a few fellow supporters of your idea to try it out in a “lab” and if the results are good, the LP can roll it out.
And, yes, as a lifetime member, I – like every other member – “speaks for the Party.” I do not speak for the LNC, however.
Aroundtheblockafewtimes, Do you speak for the party? I’m addressing party activists also. If the party is not responsive it will be up to them and the candidates to pursue it. I did move for the Lp nomination for NJ governor. That was given to another candidate. I considered running Independent but had to decide not to as I am too stressed & broke & depressed in my personal life. Besides, there have been a very few candidates who have gotten for whatever the ballot from both parties. It didn’t seem to make much difference. No, what is needed is several candidates declaring-in defiance of the party if necessary-that they supportb the Strategy & each other. The problem is the inertia of voters favors the dems & reps. Ideally BOTH parties should declare support for the Strategy. Perhaps on a tentative or experimental basis. It is going to take a movement not just one or two people, to sweep out the dems & reps. That is what you all want, isn’t it? Am I mistaken?
We were most impressed with this video of your Chairman and thought he did an excellent job of explaining the obstacles the USLP faces as well as their successes. We are now sharing this video on our own blog: http://lpuk.blogspot.com/2009/09/libertarianism-on-rise.html
The USLP should be proud to have such a well spoken gent to represent your cause.
The same skepticism that caused him to barely eke out the presidential nomination after six ballots, and then only by working a bad-for-the-party deal with one of the also rans.
libertariangirl
September 24, 2009
the skepticism that gave him the presidential nomination:)– wink–
Aroundtheblockafewtimes
September 24, 2009
Mr. Milnes, prove it works in New Jersey and then maybe the Party will consider it.
Donderoo, maybe the NYT is trying to further discredit the label “libertarian?” As Mr. Orvetti said, let her join the LP and we will think about it.
Even with several years membership under her belt, she would meet the same kind of skepticism that Barr did.
Both the NY Times and the Drudge Report are headlining this morning:
“Sarah Palin’s libertarian speech in Hong Kong”
Wonder why IPR is not covering this? Doesn’t quite fit the template now does it?
I wanna a big “Yes, you were right Dondero,” from all the naysayers out there, who said we libertarian Republicans were “crazy” for calling Palin a libertarian all these years.
NY Times & The Drudge Report. Oh, and Newsweek Magazine just echoed the same sentimnet also using the “libertarian” label with Palin’s speech early this morning.
The various Socialist parties are also deliberately left out of this alliance for similar reasons and are also invited to switch to the Libertarian or Green party.
The Constitution Party is deliberately left out of this Alliance as being too complicated. Interested Constitution Party officials and activists are recommended to switch to the Libertarian or Green party.
If present LP & GP party officials can or will not reach such an agreement, activists from both parties should replace them with officials who will at the next available occasion-party official elections. This issue should be the most important issue for party activists to demand their officials pursue.
OK, libertarian and green losers. I have decided to AGAIN write LP & GP party officials, including Mr. Redpath, proposing their adoption of the Progressive Libertarian Alliance Strategy. Briefly this is simply the combining of each of their maximum voting blocs -13% & 27% respectively-instead of competing with each other thereby suppressing both voting blocs. In other words ONE Libertarian OR ONE Green on EVERY ballot. The Honor System is for the first party on the ballot to get the recognition in order to create motivation & competition to get on all ballots asap. Further, an about 50/50 agreement would be fair in that although the LP would only contribute 13% or 1/3 (33.3%) of the combined vote, they are better at ballot access. Further ideally there should be a fusion ticket which is an LP and a GP presidential ticket and ONLY one such ticket per 4 year election cycle. Suggested is a ticket composed of a libertarian and a progressive, not both. Hypothetically and ideally such a vote coordination could very well result in a plurality victory of @40/30/30 on all ballots, sweeping the democrats and republicans out of office. Needless to say it is not too late for such an agreement for 2012 and it should be accomplished asap. I’m calling on all party officials and activists to get with this program asap.
Daniel Kamerling
September 23, 2009
Woooo…give it up for Reston, VA!!! Sorry, I have nothing of content to say. =)
Yes, I might. It has just been approved for men as preventing warts. I think I could do without warts, thank you.
Gee, Milnes, you got spare time, find out for yourself! And since you’re so pro-poison, get the shot yourself, too–you might be a carrier, after all!
What is the Gardisil vaccination mortality rate; pretty close to 100%?
The point, to be clear to even your moronic insanity, Milnes, is that either way is a death sentence.
MS @31, if you would prefer a bullet to Gardisil for a daughter,then I have nothing further to say to you about this. It is off topic anyway.
Danny S., agreed. The party & the activists & the candidates are just going to have to educate the voters. & the hope is that once it catches on the polling should rise. THEN, when voters say to themselves “this just might work. worth a try” THAT’s when more & more of the maximum constituency(bloc) poll favorably & support & contribute & volunteer etc. It will take time & energy to overcome the longstanding “mindset”.
Michael @26: I’ve seen that graph and it is very true. So is the one that showed the effect of the MMR vaccine was zilch.
Milnes @28: Nothing. I don’t have any daughters, and if I did, Gardasil is the last thing they would get short of a bullet.
Besides, if you studied biochemistry then you should already know how body pH interacts with cancer cells, and you should know how the modern diet fucks up the body’s pH and promotes cancerous cell growth.
Milnes- two major flaws to your plan. 1) You can’t necessarily get those voters to coordinate. Party activists and hierarchy can announce that is the strat. But the individual voter can ignore it and say, “in some areas, I am diametrically opposed. Not worth my vote”
Second, that assumes the maximum constituency will necessarily vote for a third party. It does nothing to assure victory or change the mindset of a “wasted vote”, even though that framework is flawed.
Dondero,
anybody can jump onto a bandwagon and grab some votes.
RM @ 28 did you read the stories about the side effects?
What do you plan to tell your daughter if you have one if/when she comes down with cervical cancer?
I just read about the AIDS vaccine. 69% failure rate = 31% success rate. Whereas up to now an effective AIDS vaccine was just a wild hope. I say 31% is better than 0%. & I support such research. I just wish I could help; biochemistry was my major in college. Instead I got bogged down with depression, neurotic women & political burnout.
re: @ 25 MS.
Somewhere around here I have a graph that shows that the polio epidemic was on the downward decline when they started immunzation. If true that is rather interesting.
Only in your utter ignorance, Milnes. My health is from a superior organic scratch diet absent as much processed foods as possible, and a boosted immune system from vitamins and herbal supplements, not from injections of formaldehyde, aborted fetal tissue, monkey guts, MSG, squalene (unapproved for use in the US because of its effects), thimerosal, and spermicides. Not luck, Milnes, just solid research, a lot of testing to see what works and what doesn’t, and knowledge of what is healthy and what is not, and proper diet. Repressing one’s immune system is most definitely not healthy, just from the imbalance of the T1 and T3 production in the gut by itself. Yet that is exactly what the toxic sludge that is vaccines do!
BTW, the AIDS vaccine they’re reporting on today was ineffective in 69 per 100 recipients. Navy crew are DYING from swine flu vaccine tests, which are also being given to pregnant women, whom NEVER should be getting vaccines, period, and Gulf War Syndrome is now linked to the squalene in the anthrax vaccines given those troops. Not to mention the ongoing toxic heavy metal poisoning that the shots do to cause things liker ASDs and Alzheimer’s…
So much for vaccine effectiveness…
And to further dispel your stupidity, Milnes, I had all those vaccines while in school and stopped afterward when I learned better. So you can’t blame my parents and schools at all, unless you want to blame them for not knowing better, but nobody did back then, either. I am by no means increasing any childhood disease rates, either, because A) My son is disease-free and vaccine-free, meaning he is not carrying or transmitting those diseases, live or killed, in his system, and B) rising childhood disease is directly correlated to the increase in the vaccine demands on the children plus the increase in processed foods in their diets and lack of outdoor exercise. Had you ever done any research on the subject you would know that as well. The diseases you claim should have been conquered years ago all live at USAMRIID at Fort Dietrick MD (where the anthrax scam originated), and some, such as polio, are on the rise again in third-world nations DESPITE mass vaccinations.
The fact is, the vaccinations don’t do squat except screw up the immune system, just like their evil bastard cousin chemotherapy (except that’s much worse!). The decrease in vaccinated diseases has come from increase in better hygiene and sanitation and safer handling of food, water, animals, and plants and NOT from vaccines.
But what do I know outside a mountain of research into actual health instead swallowing Big Pharma’s lines?
Michael Seebeck, if you are’…almost completely vaccine-free…” then your parents & schools are negligent. & you are very lucky AND benefiting from the majority who did get vaccines which prevents the spread of disease. PLUS you are a part of the present problem of rising childhood disease rates. Diseases that should have been conquered decades ago.
I don’t know about people in the LPMO, but people here in the LPCA don’t ask “how high?” when LP leaders order them to jump.
Again, all I’m hearing here is the crickets chirp as you guys fail to name a single one of these Root-controlled robots who was persuaded to switch from Ruwart to Barr after their man Root was out.
Barr and Root endorsed each other because there was no downside and nothing but possible upside. That tells us nothing about the magnitude of the actual upside, about which I’m asking for evidence. Do you have any, or not?
For my part, I can name one person who voted for Root on the penultimate ballot, and who was utterly immune to Root’s orders about who to vote for: me. In fact, I voted for Kubby over Root in the VP race, and for Phillies over Root on the first ballot.
George claims that Root persuaded at least 25 people to switch from Ruwart to Barr. I would dearly love to study one of these 25 people. I want to investigate techniques of mind-controlling NatCon delegates who have radical sympathies. That could prove useful in St. Louis.
“Tom, in what universe could Barr not have beaten Ruwart on the last ballot without the pro-forma and fore-ordained endorsement that Root delivered?”
The universe where Barr considered Root’s endorsement important enough to merit an offer of reciprocal endorsement for VP — which just happens to be this one.
“Did you seriously expect Root and his supporters to have no clear preference between Barr and Ruwart?”
I very much expected a majority of Root delegates to prefer Barr to Ruwart, but it doesn’t follow from that that Root’s endorsement had no impact.
Remember, Ruwart was BEATING Barr as of the 5th ballot. It was going to take more than a slim majority of Root supporters to tip the scales back to Barr.
As it happens, it took around 2/3 of Root’s supporters to put Barr over the top, and if as few as 25 of his 165 5th-ballot supporters had gone the other way, the nomination would also have gone the other way.
I’m tempted to ask what universe YOU live in where Wayne Allyn Root is so unpersuasive with his own supporters that his endorsement had no impact. Even WITH his endorsement for Barr, 1 of every 3 Root voters went to Ruwart instead. In what universe would that number have not been higher had Root declined to endorse at all, or endorsed Ruwart?
That’s because they see your return address and don’t bother, Milnes.
And you don’t seem to know much about vaccines either. Perhaps you’ve had one too many needles to the head? It would certainly explain your state rather well, that of a dateless deranged lunatic. My almost completely vaccine-free state would also explain mine as well–healthy, happily married, and completely sane, albeit very cynical.
But keep on keepin’ on, Milnes–we either just laugh at you or skip your rants anyway!
Michael seebeck, my letters go into the trash unopened along with the vaccine poison? Hmmmmm……I see. I rather think using the mental illness excuse to fill up the detainment camps would fit libertarians better. All they’d have to do is strap you down & force inject you with swine/bird flu vaccine. There is no such vaccine/poison for mental illness.
Of course Ruwart wouldn’t endorse Root. What were you & Moulton waiting for, Brian, Hell to freeze over? Her mistake was not grasping victory from the hands of defeat by joining my Independent fusion ticket.
Brian, why are you copy and pasting the same reply @16 on two different threads?
Milnes, you realize that your letters go into the trash unopened, right?
Geoffrey, Redpath is not “well-spoken” at all. In fact, he is a man out of his depth doing boilerplate responses and has shown himself to be nothing more than a ventriloquist dummy for certain others on the LNC. Whoop-dee-doo. He shoulda stuck to ballot access.
Peter, the light at the end of the tunnel that Redpath refers to is the oncoming train of medically-induced martial law over the swine flu hysteria and overhype that the LP is remarkably and unconscionably silent about, not to mention its looming partner in Obamacare. I’m pretty sure it’s occurred to others besides me that the swine and bird flu (yes, they’re bringing that back to add to the hype and hysteria) is the excuse to force the socializes hell-th care on all of us, mainly because they’re expecting resistance from doctors and people to getting the vaccine poisons.
Yet the LP is SILENT on all of this, possibly the biggest threat to our freedom since 1775. WHY???
Aroundtheblockafewtimes, I forget who, but someone recently proposed doing away with lifetime memberships. Seems too easy to just buy. & since it applies to Ron Paul, I found this proposal very interesting. I favor it.
Tom, in what universe could Barr not have beaten Ruwart on the last ballot without the pro-forma and fore-ordained endorsement that Root delivered? Did you seriously expect Root and his supporters to have no clear preference between Barr and Ruwart? I bet you cannot find even one Root voter on the penultimate ballot who would say that Root’s endorsement swung his vote from Ruwart to Barr. Root’s endorsement speechlet was completely unmemorable to me, and I’d love to know what kind of a Ruwart supporter it could have transmogrified into a Barr supporter.
This urban legend — of Root taking the nomination from Ruwart and handing it to Barr — is obviously more about spin for 2012 than it is about the facts of 2008.
As I wrote the day after the convention: It was mathematically obvious from the second ballot onward that the only way to stop Barr would be for Ruwart to endorse Root. Chuck Moulton and I were sitting together speculating when it would happen, but it never did. Barr would have never accepted a V.P. spot, so a Ruwart endorsement would have guaranteed either a Root/Ruwart ticket or a Root/Kubby ticket (depending on whether Mary wanted the veep slot). Those would have been my preferred tickets, but Ruwart’s insistence Sunday on a doomed last stand did more in three hours to make the LP potentially “Republican lite” than the Reform Caucus did in three years. I hope Ruwart wasn’t more interested in remaining the standard-bearer of anarcholibertarian purity than she was in the LP remaining the standard-bearer of political libertarianism. Since our nominating process is like a microcosm of America’s electoral system, this is an ironic little lesson about how keeping one’s hands spotless is not always the choice that best serves the cause of liberty.
Mr. Milnes, I hear you. So get a few fellow supporters of your idea to try it out in a “lab” and if the results are good, the LP can roll it out.
And, yes, as a lifetime member, I – like every other member – “speaks for the Party.” I do not speak for the LNC, however.
Aroundtheblockafewtimes, Do you speak for the party? I’m addressing party activists also. If the party is not responsive it will be up to them and the candidates to pursue it. I did move for the Lp nomination for NJ governor. That was given to another candidate. I considered running Independent but had to decide not to as I am too stressed & broke & depressed in my personal life. Besides, there have been a very few candidates who have gotten for whatever the ballot from both parties. It didn’t seem to make much difference. No, what is needed is several candidates declaring-in defiance of the party if necessary-that they supportb the Strategy & each other. The problem is the inertia of voters favors the dems & reps. Ideally BOTH parties should declare support for the Strategy. Perhaps on a tentative or experimental basis. It is going to take a movement not just one or two people, to sweep out the dems & reps. That is what you all want, isn’t it? Am I mistaken?
Gents,
We were most impressed with this video of your Chairman and thought he did an excellent job of explaining the obstacles the USLP faces as well as their successes. We are now sharing this video on our own blog:
http://lpuk.blogspot.com/2009/09/libertarianism-on-rise.html
The USLP should be proud to have such a well spoken gent to represent your cause.
Top of the day,
Geoffrey
LG,
The same skepticism that caused him to barely eke out the presidential nomination after six ballots, and then only by working a bad-for-the-party deal with one of the also rans.
the skepticism that gave him the presidential nomination:)– wink–
Mr. Milnes, prove it works in New Jersey and then maybe the Party will consider it.
Donderoo, maybe the NYT is trying to further discredit the label “libertarian?” As Mr. Orvetti said, let her join the LP and we will think about it.
Even with several years membership under her belt, she would meet the same kind of skepticism that Barr did.
Both the NY Times and the Drudge Report are headlining this morning:
“Sarah Palin’s libertarian speech in Hong Kong”
Wonder why IPR is not covering this? Doesn’t quite fit the template now does it?
I wanna a big “Yes, you were right Dondero,” from all the naysayers out there, who said we libertarian Republicans were “crazy” for calling Palin a libertarian all these years.
NY Times & The Drudge Report. Oh, and Newsweek Magazine just echoed the same sentimnet also using the “libertarian” label with Palin’s speech early this morning.
TOLD YOU SO, TOLD YOU SO, TOLD YOU SO!!!
The various Socialist parties are also deliberately left out of this alliance for similar reasons and are also invited to switch to the Libertarian or Green party.
The Constitution Party is deliberately left out of this Alliance as being too complicated. Interested Constitution Party officials and activists are recommended to switch to the Libertarian or Green party.
If present LP & GP party officials can or will not reach such an agreement, activists from both parties should replace them with officials who will at the next available occasion-party official elections. This issue should be the most important issue for party activists to demand their officials pursue.
Subsequent to such an agreement, a further agreement should be made to apply to ballot issues and initiatives.
OK, libertarian and green losers. I have decided to AGAIN write LP & GP party officials, including Mr. Redpath, proposing their adoption of the Progressive Libertarian Alliance Strategy. Briefly this is simply the combining of each of their maximum voting blocs -13% & 27% respectively-instead of competing with each other thereby suppressing both voting blocs. In other words ONE Libertarian OR ONE Green on EVERY ballot. The Honor System is for the first party on the ballot to get the recognition in order to create motivation & competition to get on all ballots asap. Further, an about 50/50 agreement would be fair in that although the LP would only contribute 13% or 1/3 (33.3%) of the combined vote, they are better at ballot access. Further ideally there should be a fusion ticket which is an LP and a GP presidential ticket and ONLY one such ticket per 4 year election cycle. Suggested is a ticket composed of a libertarian and a progressive, not both. Hypothetically and ideally such a vote coordination could very well result in a plurality victory of @40/30/30 on all ballots, sweeping the democrats and republicans out of office. Needless to say it is not too late for such an agreement for 2012 and it should be accomplished asap. I’m calling on all party officials and activists to get with this program asap.
Woooo…give it up for Reston, VA!!! Sorry, I have nothing of content to say. =)