Chuck Baldwin: ‘Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?’

By Chuck Baldwin
ChuckBaldwinLive.com

According to an obscure report in the European Union Times (EUTimes.net), “Russian Military Analysts are reporting to Prime Minister Putin that US President Barack Obama has issued an order to his Northern Command’s (USNORTHCOM) top leader, US Air Force General Gene Renuart, to ‘begin immediately’ increasing his military forces to 1 million troops by January 30, 2010, in what these reports warn is an expected outbreak of civil war within the United States before the end of winter.

“According to these reports, Obama has had over these past weeks ‘numerous’ meetings with his war council abut how best to manage the expected implosion of his Nation’s banking system while at the same time attempting to keep the United States military hegemony over the World in what Russian Military Analysts state is a ‘last ditch gambit’ whose success is ‘far from certain.'”

The EU Times article continues by saying, “To the fears of Obama over the United States erupting into civil war once the full extent of the rape and pillaging of these peoples by their banks and government becomes known to them, grim evidence now shows the likelihood of this occurring much sooner than later.”

The Times story goes on to say that there are “over 220 million American people armed to the teeth and ready to explode.”

The Times article concludes by saying, “Though the coming civil war in the United States is being virtually ignored by their propaganda media, the same cannot be said of Russia, where leading Russian political analyst, Professor Igor Panarin has long warned that the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the US is heading for collapse.”

Many of us would be inclined to pooh-pooh such a story, but then there is this column from Bloomberg.com entitled “Arming Goldman With Pistols Against Public,” written by Alice Schroeder. According to Ms Schroeder:

“‘I just wrote my first reference for a gun permit,’ said a friend, who told me of swearing to the good character of a Goldman Sachs Group Inc. banker who applied to the local police for a permit to buy a pistol. The banker had told this friend of mine that senior Goldman people have loaded up on firearms and are now equipped to defend themselves if there is a populist uprising against the bank.”

There is no doubt that the American people have good reason to despise these international banksters epitomized by Goldman Sachs. Even one of Goldman’s poster-boys, Henry Paulson, US Treasury secretary and former Goldman CEO, admitted that the American people were fed up. Schroeder quotes Paulson as saying, during testimony to Congress last summer, “[People] were unhappy with the big discrepancies in wealth, but they at least believed in the system and in some form of market-driven capitalism. But if we had a complete meltdown, it could lead to people questioning the basis of the system.”

Schroeder correctly opines, “There you have it. The bailout was meant to keep the curtain drawn on the way the rich make money, not from the free market, but from the lack of one. Goldman Sachs blew its cover when the firm’s revenue from trading reached a record $27 billion in the first nine months of this year, and a public that was writhing in financial agony caught on that the profits earned on taxpayer capital were going to pay employee bonuses.”

Schroeder concludes her column by saying, “And if the proles [proletariat: plebs, working class, peasants] really do appear brandishing pitchforks at the doors of Park Avenue and the gates of Round Hill Road, you can be sure that the Goldman guys and their families will be holed up in their safe rooms with their firearms.”

So, do Wall Street and Russian analysts know something that we don’t know? Is this why George W. Bush initiated USNORTHCOM to begin with? Is this why Barack Obama is beefing up USNORTHCOM? This would help explain the reports of all those potential detention camps that have been constructed (including the abandoned military installations that have refurbished security fences, guard towers, etc., around them). Has the American people’s disgust with these crooks and thieves within the federal government and Wall Street reached a boiling point?

There is no question that people are angry, and for good reason.

The fraudulent financial policies of the Federal Reserve and its lackeys in the White House and Congress have literally bankrupted the country. Real unemployment is most likely over 20%. Taxes (along with costly fees, regulations, restrictions, penalties, mandates, etc.) at every level are going through the ceiling. America’s jobs have been outsourced. Barack Obama continues G.W. Bush’s irresponsibility, digging America deeper and deeper into foreign entanglements, at the cost of trillions of dollars and thousands of lives. The IRS continues to harass and harangue honest citizens, squeezing them like the proverbial turnip. And now, add the insanity of a global climate treaty being hammered out in Copenhagen, and a universal health care bill being rammed through Congress, and the outlook is even gloomier.

I feel very comfortable in saying that the usurpations of power, the encroachments upon liberty, and the arrogant tax-and-spend policies emanating from Washington, D.C., and Wall Street these days are far more egregious than what George Washington and the boys were enduring in 1775-76 at the hands of the British Crown. There is no doubt in my mind that if Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, and Sam Adams were alive today, they would have given cause for the Goldman Sachs banksters to retreat to their bunkers years ago!

The fact is, we do need a revolution! But not a revolution of anarchy and pitchforks. (The history of France should be ample evidence of the futility of this strategy.) We need a revolution of the individual states: to reclaim their sovereignty and fight for the liberties of their sovereigns (We the People). That is exactly what our forefathers did in ’76.

America’s founding document (the Declaration of Independence) declares that our states are “free and independent.” And so they are. We are not “one nation” with one all-powerful central government. We are a confederation of nation-states, united in a voluntary union, with each State reserving to itself the power and authority of self-determination, and ceding to the federal government limited, specifically delineated duties and limitations–limitations that have been totally ignored to the point that, for all intents and purposes, our once-great constitutional republic has been thoroughly expunged. Therefore, it is NOW time for the states to stand up to this meddlesome, every-growing tyranny that is known as Washington, D.C., and defend the rights and liberties of their citizens!

What Dr. Ed Vieira (an attorney with 4 earned degrees from Harvard, who has successfully argued cases before the US Supreme Court) wrote a few weeks ago should serve as a template for every State governor and legislature that truly cares about liberty. See Ed’s column at:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin201.htm

As Vieira says, the states should resurrect their militias. Many–if not all–states have the legal authority for such entities in their constitutions. In some states they are called the State Guard. Some plainly use the word “militia.” Whatever they are called, they need to be activated. And all that is necessary for this to be accomplished is the order of the governor. It’s that simple!

And as Vieira said, states need to adopt an alternative currency–including, and most especially, gold and silver. In other words, they need to develop their own private economies, complete with their own banks and exchange mediums. They also need to reject the multinational agribusiness and develop their own in-State agricultural and energy businesses.

I would dare say that the first State that determines to follow Vieira’s sagacious counsel (and rumblings of this have already begun in states such as Alaska, Oklahoma, Texas, Montana, New Hampshire, Indiana, Tennessee, South Carolina, etc.) would have so many liberty-loving patriots flock there that its economy would explode with prosperity–resulting in a domino effect of many other states following suit–and the revolution that this country so desperately needs would indeed take place. Furthermore, such a revolution would be constitutional, lawful, moral, and, yes, in compliance with the laws of Nature and of Nature’s God.

In the meantime, is Barack Obama really worried about civil war? He might be. It is my observation that Washington politicians and bureaucrats are the most paranoid people on the planet. The problem is–as with most power-hungry Machiavellians–their paranoia often translates into more oppression and less liberty for the citizenry. And if this is true, it simply means that the states need to hurry up and do what needs to be done!

48 thoughts on “Chuck Baldwin: ‘Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?’

  1. d.eris

    Speaking of violence against the banksters and their conspirators. From Raw Story:

    “A Los Angeles lawyer who had represented a failed subprime mortgage lender is found dead outside his home, having been shot in the head.

    Three men allegedly invade the home of a former subprime lender, and are arrested after reportedly injuring three people inside.

    Vandals target the home of the former CEO of the Royal Bank of Scotland, smashing windows in the banker’s home and car.

    Those are just three notable incidents of violence aimed at people who were in some way linked to the financial crisis that has unfolded over the past year.”

    http://rawstory.com/2009/12/bankers-public-wrath-literally/

    Via Polizeros.

  2. Mic Helms

    Chuck…. going back to the Declaration of Independence to state what should happening now would be vaild if only the 14th Amendment hadn’t allowed an insurgent government to take the place of the one that you refer to in the Declaration of Independence. For more details on why the “republic has been thoroughly expunged” see http://www.pacinlaw.org/14th

  3. Jill Pyeatt

    I am personally terrified for the future of this country. All things point to something dreadful and possibly cataclysmic happening soon. I hope Dr Baldwin and I are wrong, but I’m preparing my family for the worst, meaning stockpiling food, and so on.

  4. NewFederalist

    I have laid in a supply of food discs and keep my tin foil hat nearby to keep informed by the mother ship of developments. Down with the income tax, saran wrap and rubella! To the barricades!

  5. Carolyn Marbry

    Looks like the tree of liberty needs some fertilizer. And not the stinky kind of fertilizer Obama’s spreading, either.

  6. Mik Robertson

    @6 “Looks like the tree of liberty needs some fertilizer. And not the stinky kind of fertilizer Obama’s spreading, either.”

    I don’t know what that means in relation to either the comments or the article. You want to fertilize the tree of liberty with less stinky fertilizer?

  7. Robert

    Civil War – for two years, first six months complete chaos, anarchy and mayhem, then still fighting, starvation and disease. (World Wide Revolution) and then WWIII. Three Quarters of the world dies, then era of peace and prosperity for a few generations. So say the Catholic Mystics – and to happen very soon.

  8. Gene Trosper

    After perusing the EUTimes.net website, I am struck that the site links to Stormfront. Also, the tone of some of the stories posted there just scream racism: “America’s white men are back and raging”, “AIPAC 2009: Corrupted American politicians gather again to display their unconditional Allegiance to Israel”, “Global White Population to Plummet”.

  9. Rusty

    Gene,
    What do you mean by the commie term, “racism”? Do you mean that whites are not allowed to have their own interests? Why not? America was a 90%+ consciously white country (immigration was limited to Europeans) until the immigration act of 1964. Whites are now going to be minorities in their own countries very soon, and you throw nasty commie epithets at those who are rightly concerned about this most recent development. Who’s the real hater here?

  10. Mik Robertson

    Isn’t the Great Cosmic Serpent supposed to come back and ravage the earth again in 2012?

  11. paulie Post author

    Actually, Rusty, racist nazis like you – and like the ones that killed many of my ancestors — are not much different from communists, from whom I fled with my family as a child, and who killed many of my other ancestors. Both are types of collectivism, which stands in contrast to individualism, which is the true American way.

  12. Stephen Verchinski

    Paulie and Rusty….you are both wrong… We live in a melting pot society with an emphasis on society that is or is supposed to function under a government. The move toward Dissolution of Government (read John Locke) is occuring because we have failed in this governmental experiment. We never thought that the corporations would slip from under the close control of the states. We never thought that the Congress would be so willing to extend without amending the Constitution the constitutional power to go to war to the executive. We never thought that the government would be so totally bought and paid for. I could go on but I’ll just remind everyone that anarchy is not the solution nor is racial warfare. The solutions lie in fundamental peace, national self reliance to the extent possible and dumping of corporate irresponsibility by hamstringing them at the state level.

    (open books, transparancy 24/7, limiting health insurance to not for profit entities, background checks on CEOs/CFO’s/ Boards of directors, Only one bite at the apple screw up and you never get to run in any of those positions in my state ever again. Limiting or outright banning the serving on more than one board of directors and on any and all campaign money expenditures except to lobby ME.)

  13. Robert Capozzi

    gt, great catch! This illustrates why I’m for moderation in tone and pronouncement. Sound like Baldwin or the EU Times or Lyndon Larouche or whatever, and most will not listen, labeling the communicator an “extremist.”

  14. paulie Post author

    We live in a melting pot society with an emphasis on society that is or is supposed to function under a government.

    Who is doing this supposing? Why should we be burdened with a parasitic monopoly?

    we have failed in this governmental experiment

    That’s because the experiment is based on false premises.

    We never thought that the corporations would slip from under the close control of the states.

    Corporations are creatures of the state. The state gives them corporate personhood and nonconcensual limited liability, corporate welfare and regulatory advantage over smaller and would-be competition. The problem with relying on a monopoly for regulatory control is that the control naturally migrates into the hands of a revolving door power elite. This is not because the wrong people have been elected, but because that power even exists to be taken.

    We never thought that the Congress would be so willing to extend without amending the Constitution the constitutional power to go to war to the executive.

    All constitutions have this failing, because they go against the fundamental nature of monopoly government. Sooner or later, the nature of government breaks the chains of any constitution, which is why Jefferson wrote What country before ever existed a century & a half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants.

    We never thought that the government would be so totally bought and paid for.

    Then you didn’t think hard enough. Fortunately, many other people did.

    anarchy is not the solution

    Actually, anarchy is the ultimate solution. I’ll take limited government as a good step in the right direction, but ultimately it’s like limited cancer.

    The solutions lie in fundamental peace, national self reliance to the extent possible and dumping of corporate irresponsibility by hamstringing them at the state level.

    The solutions lie in fundamental peace,individual self reliance to the extent possible and dumping of corporate irresponsibility by ending corporate personhood, nonconcensual limited liability, corporate welfare, regulatory advantage….

  15. paulie Post author

    Interesting. This Baldwin column is running this weekend on LewRockwell.com. Hmmm….

    What’s interesting about that? Rockwell has been running all of Baldwin’s columns for a while now.

  16. paulie Post author

    After perusing the EUTimes.net website, I am struck that the site links to Stormfront. Also, the tone of some of the stories posted there just scream racism

    While the source is certainly suspect, that does not mean they are necessarily wrong.

  17. paulie Post author

    Mik:

    @6 “Looks like the tree of liberty needs some fertilizer. And not the stinky kind of fertilizer Obama’s spreading, either.”

    I don’t know what that means in relation to either the comments or the article. You want to fertilize the tree of liberty with less stinky fertilizer?

    Lake:

    Bovine Excreta

    Steer Manure

    Bull Shit

    p; Well, that’s certainly fertilizer, but it’s not less stinky.

  18. paulie Post author

    Isn’t the Great Cosmic Serpent supposed to come back and ravage the earth again in 2012?

    Many of the world’s religions, myths, etc., predict cataclysmic events in the near future. The fact that so many calendars of different cultures around the world start around 6,000 years ago – along with recorded history – while human brains have been essentially identicall for much longer bolsters the theory that there was another cataclysmic event around that time. Other scientific discoveries have been pointing in that direction, such as the study of punctuated equilibria in the history of evolution, re-examination of Velikovsky’s writings, etc. Even astronomy is leading to similar conclusions…I saw something on History channel recently about how meteor strikes are more frequent and severe than previously thought.

  19. Gene Trosper

    @11 Regardless if you’re trying to look funny or attempting to defend the Great White race, you still come off looking like a moron.

  20. Gene Trosper

    @19 I didn’t say that the information was “wrong” in terms of facts, but the links are (at least in my viewpoint) morally wrong. I think libertarians are too quick to latch onto anything that appears anti-government without first considering the source. Maybe the story is true, maybe it’s not. However, I can’t find *anything* else regarding that story which doesn’t refer to the racist, nationalistic EUTimes.net website. Did anyone see the article there that says the US military is planning to kill 50 million Americans and will use carpet bombing of neighborhoods to achieve that goal if necessary? Where is the source material? Where else can I find this information? That’s why I like Antiwar.com: all of their articles are chock full of references and resources. The EUTimes.net website is highly suspicious. I’m not drinking the Kool Aid on this one.

  21. Thomas M. Sipos

    Rusty: “America was a 90%+ consciously white country (immigration was limited to Europeans) until the immigration act of 1964.”

    All human beings are the same color: We’re all “melanin colored”.

    It’s just that, some people have a greater concentration of melanin than do others. The sole exception are albinos, who have no melanin.

    However, you’re right in one sense. America did at one time think of itself as a “consciously white country.” But that doesn’t make it right.

    And I suppose that other countries think of themselves a consciously black, or brown, or Chinese, or Anglo, or Teutonic, or Christian, or Jewish, or Muslim, or …

    We all need to get past that. And slowly, and not without some pain, the more civilized countries are moving beyond tribalist, collectivist thinking.

    The internet is helping. We all see each other now on MySpace and YouTube. We talk to each other. Over time, it should become harder for governments to demonize “the other.”

    Culturally and psychologically, national borders are dissolving. Some people don’t like this, but it’s happening, and in the long run, it will benefit humanity as a whole.

  22. paulie Post author

    Culturally and psychologically, national borders are dissolving. Some people don’t like this, but it’s happening, and in the long run, it will benefit humanity as a whole.

    Amen.

  23. paulie Post author

    @11 Regardless if you’re trying to look funny or attempting to defend the Great White race, you still come off looking like a moron.

    I didn’t see any hints of irony on Rusty’s website.

  24. paulie Post author

    Did anyone see the article there that says the US military is planning to kill 50 million Americans and will use carpet bombing of neighborhoods to achieve that goal if necessary? Where is the source material?

    I didn’t see the story, and I agree they should provide source material.

    But I wouldn’t dismiss it out of hand, either.

    Consider:

    1) During the cold war, the regime played a game of nuclear brinksmanship that on numerous occasions came very close to killing that many, or more, Americans.

    2) During that same era, they tested the effects of radiation and powerful psychotropic drugs on unsuspecting troops, and even subjected civilians to radiation poisoning and syphilis experiments. Other plans were under discussion for such things as creating mass terror in American cities by releasing hallucinogens into the water supply or as an aerosol spray in subway tunnels.

    3) During the 1980s, the regime made contigency plans to round up millions of Americans in case of natural disaster, economic collapse, civil unrest, etc.

    4) “legal” authority for instituting full scale martial law has now been passed by executive orders, court decisions and legislation.

    5) Elitist global magerialists have openly discussed the desirability of global population reduction.

    6) As Baldwin detailed in earlier articles, mass detention facilities are in fact being prepared.

    7) There is a history of false flag terror operations leading to US wars, ranging from the Gulf of Tonkin, Pearl Harbor (see Day of Deceit), the Maine, Lusitania, etc. In other nations, incidents such as the Reichstag fire were staged to institute martial law.

    8) The financial and monetary system of the US is on the verge of collapse due to the out of control government spending, wars and entitlements and bailouts of politically connected corporations. What would happen if the dollar does in fact collapse?

    While I don’t want to take the time to source all of these right now, I could, and have before. In the meantime, I would encourage you to look into all these claims yourself.

    To the extent that I have, the idea that they would kill 50 million Americans and carpet bomb US cities no longer seems so far fetched.

  25. Mik Robertson

    @17 “Corporations are creatures of the state. The state gives them corporate personhood and nonconcensual limited liability, corporate welfare and regulatory advantage over smaller and would-be competition. The problem with relying on a monopoly for regulatory control is that the control naturally migrates into the hands of a revolving door power elite. This is not because the wrong people have been elected, but because that power even exists to be taken.”

    Well said, and a good step in the right direction is to limit corporations to what they used to be, creatures of the state. They should be established for a particular purpose and for a limited period of time, they should not be able to own any property and they should certainly not be considered persons or be able to influence the electoral or legislative processes.

  26. paulie Post author

    That would be a good step.

    Ultimately, I would go beyond that to no state and no corporations in anything like the present form.

  27. Carolyn Marbry

    Sorry, my reference to the famous quote about the tree of liberty occasionally needing to be refreshed with the blood of patriots seems to have gone over a lot of heads. Or maybe it just wasn’t all that clear. Whatever. Lake understood what I meant by Obama’s stinkier fertilizer.

  28. Mik Robertson

    @36 You were referring to Jefferson’s quote “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” And you think Obama is spewing BS, now I get it.

    Do you think violence is the way to address the problems with the US government?

  29. paulie Post author

    Lake understood what I meant by Obama’s stinkier fertilizer.

    I hadn’t read it that way before. With Lake, you have to read a lot between the lines 🙂

  30. paulie Post author

    Interesting…I noted on 16 that LewRockwell.com was running this cb column this weekend. It appears that our friends in AL have taken this piece down…

    I guess someone alerted them to the EW times being a highly suspect source. Ever since Bob Wallace came out of the closet as an unabashed racist, at least, they’ve been more careful about leaving any overt connections to racists on LRC. Anything that smells too badly tends to get memoryholed.

  31. Carolyn Marbry

    @37 Not yet. But I’m not ruling out the possibility of Americans having to defend themselves against a government gone rogue sometime in the future.

  32. Mik Robertson

    @44 “Not yet. But I’m not ruling out the possibility of Americans having to defend themselves against a government gone rogue sometime in the future.”

    It appears to me from this article that Chuck Baldwin has gone beyond the pale as to what is reasonable for a leader of a political party to be doing. If you are going to advocate for violent revolution, even by implication, why bother with the evolutionary political process?

    As a candidate for the LNC, my question would be if you think the current government policies do not merit the shedding of the blood of patriots and tyrants but the current administration is spouting BS, where do you draw the line of the end of participation in the political process and entry into violent revolution?

  33. Ayn R. Key

    @41

    I didn’t know that about Wallace. Nobody ever told me the dirty laundry. All I noticed was one day he was there and the next he was gone and complaining about it over at The Price of Liberty.

    When / where / how did he come out of that closet?

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