Request to readers: help IPR cover Libertarian National Committee Meeting, February 27-28, Austin, Texas

By: Paulie

I’ll be traveling to the Libertarian National Committee/Libertarian State Leadership Alliance meeting in Austin, Texas this weekend and would like to cover it for IPR.

I am requesting the following assistance from our readers to help facilitate the coverage:

1. Computer with camera (webcam or regular camera) and someone who knows how to work them well enough to broadcast live. If possible, we would like two teams, as LSLA and LNC will have some events at the same time.

2. Additional people to twitter/text liveblog for those without sound/video capacity.

3. If possible, I am looking for non-smoking roommates for any or all nights of the event. I don’t mind sleeping on floors and have my own blanket.

4. If anyone happens to be driving there by way of New Mexico, I would appreciate a ride (probably one way only).

If anyone can help with any of this, please give me a call at 415-690-6352.

42 thoughts on “Request to readers: help IPR cover Libertarian National Committee Meeting, February 27-28, Austin, Texas

  1. The Last Conservative

    Is there any truth to the rumor that Catholic Trotskyist may be attending the LNC meeting and announcing his candidacy for LNC chair?

  2. Don Lake ........... double 'harruph!'

    “I am looking for non-smoking roommates for any or all nights of the event. I don’t mind sleeping on floors and have my own blanket.”

    Dear paulie:

    [a] non smoking [remember I am totally pot and drug decriminalization], well good for you!

    [b] think ’bout getting a sleeping bag, for floor —— or to throw on top of a bed ……..

  3. Eric Dondero

    Paulie, depending on my work schedule, I’m seriously thinking of attending. It’s gonna be a last minute decision for me, probably late Thursday. But I could certainly assist with the room if I go. As a fellow petitioner, I’m an expert -sleep on the floor with a sleeping bag/share expenses dude.

    Not sure I’ll spend the entire weekend, maybe just for the day. Austin’s about a 3 hour drive for me.

  4. paulie Post author

    Whatever I or anyone else thinks of his politics or style of argument, Dondero’s comment is thus far the only one that deals with the practical purpose of this post.

    Unless that changes, I won’t be able to provide very good or timely coverage of the LNC meeting for those unable to be there themselves.

  5. Eric Dondero

    Yupper, I’m a “NeoCon,” alright. I must be the world’s only Pro-Choicer NeoCon. Not too mention pro-drug legalization, pro-prostitution, pro-swingers rights, pro-abolish the irs, ect…

    I’m sure I’d be quite welcome at a NeoCon convention of the likes of Bill Bennett, Bill Kristol, and Pat Robertson.

  6. Eric Dondero

    Paulie, serious note. Might you be driving from Alabama? If so, you’d have to pass right through Houston. I could share gas expenses. Just a thought.

  7. Andy

    “Eric Dondero // Feb 23, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    Paulie, serious note. Might you be driving from Alabama? If so, you’d have to pass right through Houston. I could share gas expenses. Just a thought.”

    LOL over the thought of Dondero and Paul riding together!

    Paul doesn’t drive.

  8. Eric Dondero

    Donald, why do you persist in calling me a NeoCon?

    Aren’t NeoCons Pro-Life? I’m about as Pro-Choice as they come. And they’re staunch social conservatives. Hell, I’m a former Swinger.

    Please explain.

  9. Eric Dondero

    I’ve got a couple books on my bookshelf on NeoConnism, by Kevin Phillips, David Brooks…

    I agree with them on about 10, perhaps 20% of the issues.

  10. paulie Post author

    Aren’t NeoCons Pro-Life?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocon

    Neoconservatism is a political philosophy that emerged in the United States of America, and which supports using American economic and military power to bring liberalism, democracy, and human rights to other countries.[1][2][3] Consequently the term is chiefly applicable to certain Americans and their strong supporters. In economics, unlike traditionalist conservatives, neoconservatives are generally comfortable with a welfare state; and, while rhetorically supportive of free markets, they are willing to interfere for overriding social purposes.[4]

    …..

    “Neo-conservatism is something of a chimera in modern politics. For its opponents it is a distinct political movement that emphasizes the blending of military power with Wilsonian idealism, yet for its supporters it is more of a ‘persuasion’ that individuals of many types drift into and out of. Regardless of which is more correct, it is now widely accepted that the neo-conservative impulse has been visible in modern American foreign policy and that it has left a distinct impact” [46]

    Historically, neoconservatives supported a militant anticommunism,[47] tolerated more social welfare spending than was sometimes acceptable to libertarians and paleoconservatives, and sympathized with a non-traditional foreign policy agenda that was less deferential to traditional conceptions of diplomacy and international law and less inclined to compromise principles, even if that meant unilateral action.

    The movement began to focus on such foreign issues in the mid-1970s[citation needed]. However, it first crystallized in the late 1960s as an effort to combat the radical cultural changes taking place within the United States. Irving Kristol wrote: “If there is any one thing that neoconservatives are unanimous about, it is their dislike of the counterculture.”[48] Norman Podhoretz agreed: “Revulsion against the counterculture accounted for more converts to neoconservatism than any other single factor.”[49] Ira Chernus argues that the deepest root of the neoconservative movement is its fear that the counterculture would undermine the authority of traditional values and moral norms. Because neoconservatives believe that human nature is innately selfish, they believe that a society with no commonly accepted values based on religion or ancient tradition will end up in a war of all against all. They also believe that the most important social value is strength, especially the strength to control natural impulses. The only alternative, they assume, is weakness that will let impulses run riot and lead to social chaos.[50]

    According to Peter Steinfels, a historian of the movement, the neoconservatives’ “emphasis on foreign affairs emerged after the New Left and the counterculture had dissolved as convincing foils for neoconservatism… The essential source of their anxiety is not military or geopolitical or to be found overseas at all; it is domestic and cultural and ideological.”[51] Neoconservative foreign policy parallels their domestic policy.

    Believing that America should “export democracy”, that is, spread its ideals of government, economics, and culture abroad, they grew to reject U.S. reliance on international organizations and treaties to accomplish these objectives. Compared to other U.S. conservatives, neoconservatives take a more idealist stance on foreign policy; adhere less to social conservatism; have a weaker dedication to the policy of minimal government; and in the past, have been more supportive of the welfare state.

    Aggressive support for democracies and nation building is additionally justified by a belief that, over the long term, it will reduce the extremism that is a breeding ground for Islamic terrorism. Neoconservatives, along with many other political theorists[citation needed], have argued that democratic regimes are less likely to instigate a war than a country with an authoritarian form of government. Further, they argue that the lack of freedoms, lack of economic opportunities, and the lack of secular general education in authoritarian regimes promotes radicalism and extremism. Consequently, neoconservatives advocate the spread of democracy to regions of the world where it currently does not prevail, notably the Arab nations of the Middle East, communist China and North Korea, and Iran.

    In the early 1970s, democratic socialist Michael Harrington used the term in its modern meaning. He characterized neoconservatives as former leftists – whom he derided as “socialists for Nixon” – who had moved significantly to the right. These people tended to remain supporters of social democracy, but distinguished themselves by allying with the Nixon administration over foreign policy, especially by their support for the Vietnam War and opposition to the Soviet Union. They still supported the welfare state, but not necessarily in its contemporary form.
    Irving Kristol remarked that a neoconservative is a “liberal mugged by reality”, one who became more conservative after seeing the results of liberal policies. Kristol also distinguished three specific aspects of neoconservatism from previous forms of conservatism: neo-conservatives had a forward-looking approach drawn from their liberal heritage, rather than the reactionary and dour approach of previous conservatives; they had a meliorative outlook, proposing alternate reforms rather than simply attacking social liberal reforms; they took philosophical ideas and ideologies very seriously.[45]

    Political philosopher Leo Strauss (1899–1973) was an important intellectual antecedent of neoconservativism. Strauss notably influenced Allan Bloom, author of the 1987 bestseller Closing of the American Mind.

    In January 2009, at the close of President George W. Bush’s second term in office, Jonathan Clarke, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs, proposed the following as the “main characteristics of neoconservatism”[43]:

    “a tendency to see the world in binary good/evil terms

    low tolerance for diplomacy

    readiness to use military force

    emphasis on US unilateral action

    disdain for multilateral organizations

    focus on the Middle East

    an us versus them mentality”.

  11. Don Lake ........... More Anti World Police Perspective

    Eric Dondero // Feb 23, 2010:

    “I’ve got a couple books on my bookshelf on NeoConnism, by Kevin Phillips, David Brooks…”

    ———– I find most Neocons to be greatly disingenuous or even out and out liars [Nixon, Ford, Reagan, HW, Cheney [may he never leave the hospital], W, Colin ‘House Nigger’ Powell, Condi ‘House Nigger’ Rice, Palin ‘I can see the Soviets from my house ………..] and we [as the nation of my birth] have enough problems with out continuing to flirt with our own demise!

    So you are not anti abortion. I have tried to get to know you better (hoping for a decent support of active duty and veterans) an on the telephone and at the keyboard you come across as just another belt way pro war neocon.

    If you walk like a neocon, if you squawk like a neocon, then you just might be ……….

    How’s that Vatican thing coming ?????????

    Hey paulie boy, if it ends up being between dog bus and Eric The Idiot, go Grey hound!

  12. paulie Post author

    Hey paulie boy, if it ends up being between dog bus and Eric The Idiot, go Grey hound!

    Eric is coming from the opposite direction. I’m working in NM so the only alternative to the hound is if someone drives through here.

  13. LibertarianGirl

    hey so on the gatewaytoliberty website , is the proposed fee already in the packages , cause it says access to floor as a delegate in the listing , or is it an additional $100.

  14. David F. Nolan

    LG @ 20 – As things currently stand, the $99 “delegate” fee gets you nothing except floor access. As you know, there is a grassroots movement to overturn this fee and let all duly elected delegates on the floor to vote without paying a fee. The more expensive packages include the floor fee.

  15. paulie Post author

    hey so on the gatewaytoliberty website , is the proposed fee already in the packages , cause it says access to floor as a delegate in the listing , or is it an additional $100.

    The fee that is being referred to is the basic package cost.

  16. paulie Post author

    Paulie – I have a small LSLA project that might interest you. Look me up when you get to Austin.

    OK. If you don’t want to describe it here you can call me about it too. My number is in the post we are commenting on.

  17. paulie Post author

    As things currently stand, the $99 “delegate” fee gets you nothing except floor access.

    $129 for those who may have rapidly changing/evolving circumstances that can prevent them committing to go until close to the time of the convention.

    I’m often in that situation, so I frequently make/change travel plans close to or at the last minute. Extra $30 tax on that….

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  19. Neocons are Pro-Choice

    Dondero: I must be the world’s only Pro-Choicer NeoCon.

    Not at all. You’re confusing Neocons with Social Conservatives.

    To be a Neocon, you simply need to support aid to Israel, the “war on terror,” and wars against Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, and maybe a few other countries.

  20. volvoice

    All neocons are pro-choice….they favor blowing up muslim women and the little children that are still in their bellies….and not think twice about it.

  21. paulie Post author

    Update on original topic: no update.

    Just for lulz: email from Jake Witmer


    An announcement from the Texas Libertarians group?

    A medication for the painful and humiliating affliction known as Eric Dondero?

    …I’ll have to buy some! I’ll also recommend it to Ron Paul if it works, since I heard he has the same problem.

    …LOL.

    Jake Witmer
    C: (907) 250-5503

    From: Best ED Meds
    Subject: [texas_libertarians] For texas_libertarians, we cut prices to -80%
    To: texas_libertarians@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 9:55 AM

  22. what huh?

    John Bolton was a swinger too.

    Pat Robertson was never a “neocon,” he’s always been more of a Skull&Bones-con like Wm Buckley & the Bushes.

    Eric D Rittberg would be very welcome at a neocon party. Just buy a dominatrix-prostitute for Bill Bennett and tell Kristol you like it when the US military kills brown people. You’d fit like a glove.

  23. Dogged Libertarian Republican Jackalope Hunter

    Inquiring Mind // Feb 21, 2010 at 10:38 am

    Mr. Dondero, a few questions sir:

    When was the last time you voted Libertarian for President in the general election?

    When was the last time you voted for a Libertarian over a Republican for any office?

    When was the last time you voted for more Libertarians than Republicans in any given election?

    If your state has registration by party, when was the last time you were registered to vote as a Libertarian? How many years in total were you registered Libertarian out of all the years you have been a registered voter, and what years were they?

    Which years were you a dues paying Libertarian Party member, and how many total years was it? I don’t just mean the first and last years, but the actual number.

    Excluding the decade of the 1980s and your work as a paid petitioner in getting candidates on the ballot for 2004 and 2008, in what ways have you been involved with the Libertarian Party?

    Is it true that, after leaving the Libertarian Party, you spent well more than a decade openly declaring your intent to destroy the Libertarian Party by any means necessary?

    Is there any truth to the rumor that you still desire to destroy the Libertarian Party, but have now decided to do so from within as well as from outside?

    Inquiring Minds want to know…

  24. Mike Seebeck, married straight guy

    @9:

    Just for that, I just might wear a pink shirt to the LNC, just to piss you off. 😀

  25. More Wayne Root Steer Manure

    Libertarian Republican Jackalope Hunter II

    Inquiring Mind // Feb 21, 2010

    Mr. Dondero, a question sir:

    When is that Vatican endorsement, promotion, appointment, anointment gonna kick in —– Don ‘I Hate Liars and Neocons’ Lake

  26. Brian Holtz

    Since 10 days ago Mike was campaigning for an LNC seat, one might assume that he already had booked his travel to Austin. However, given the amazing attendance record of our alternate Dr. Scott Lieberman, Mike certainly couldn’t be blamed for hedging his bets and counting on Scott as backup.

  27. More Jeremy Young Poo Poo

    Ethics, Public Administration, Pollitical Science, Communications ????????????

    Post Script: Der Rambo does not have a PhD —- but claims to have Vatican connects and is almost as rude on the phone and key board as Liar Phillies!

  28. Mike Seebeck, packing bags

    @35, Yes, I’m going, but not broadcasting. My webcam has decided for some reason to broadcast everything upside down, and I can’t get it fixed.

    If I bring my laptop, which is a last-minute decision, I may Tweet the meeting. It’s not looking likely, though.

  29. Mike Seebeck, packing bags

    Brian @37:

    Correct, but not because I assumed I had the race won. It was because the tickets were cheaper that way, and I have friends there I can visit as well. Price differential right now is $200 and rising.

    Besides, I need to get out of the CA madhouse at least once a year to remind myself of what the Republic looks like… 😀

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