srl: And that is a strategy that has worked, albeit not nearly as quickly as we had hoped 20-30 years ago.
me: hmm, “worked” in what sense? Topping out at 30K? Size of government being substantially larger today that 3 decades ago?
A candidate embodies an “ism” by what he/she says and does. People learn by demonstration more than from didactic tactics.
The Barr campaign had many millstones, but it was on the better-resourced Clark model. That model DID work, near as I can tell.
Root is playing his role, fairly well. His role is as L pundit, promoting Root L-ism and Root. I would not and do not expect him to usurp the roles that Hinkle and Benedict serve, and frankly I would not want him to.
Aside from perhaps Boortz, Root is the first L pundit in that he’s explicitly L, not L-leaning like Stossel or Carlson or Williams. I would say in the past year or 2, Gillespie has been coming on very strong, along with the Welch, Balko, and Mangu-Ward. The Reasonoids are now B listers by my estimation, with Root probably in the B to C range. (There are benefits to living in DC.) These are all excellent developments, although still all inconsequential. Having good ideas is no substitute for implementing them.
WWND ___ what would Nolan do??? the only pin i sported at our convention was his , id love to have some what would nolan do graphics!!:) anyone
Steven R Linnabary
February 8, 2011
Seriously, with all those media appearances, we SHOULD have many new members in the Libertarian party. Why hasn’t that happened?
And why would that be?
Wayne is selling Wayne, not the LP. He rarely mentions the LP, even in this interview. I’d be willing to bet that Wayne’s email list is growing exponentially. So that isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
I have my doubts that this strategy can work as it failed miserably with the Barr campaign.
In the past, our candidates explained libertarianism and helped the voter come to their own conclusion. And that is a strategy that has worked, albeit not nearly as quickly as we had hoped 20-30 years ago.
PEACE
Robert Capozzi
February 8, 2011
o35, media is air cover. What are we doing to close?
Wayne Allyn Root on Another National Media Blitz
posted by Wayne Allyn Root on Feb 08, 2011
Wayne Allyn Root, Libertarian National Congressional Committee Chairman and Best-Selling Author has made another national media blitz. His 22 media appearances below include an appearance on Russia Today TV Network (see video below).
“The Big Biz Show with Russ & Sully” Nationally Syndicated
“The Bill Cunningham Show” National Radio Premiere Radio Network
“The Jerry Doyle Show” Nationally syndicated
“The Big Biz Show with Russ & Sully” Nationally syndicated
Russia Today National TV (via Skype)
“The Alan Nathan Show” Nationally Syndicated
“The Bob Connors Show” Columbus, Ohio
KVEL/KLCY “The Lincoln Brown Show” Vernal, Utah
KNOX AM Grand Forks, ND “The RJ Richards Show”
KUIK AM “The Jayne Caroll Show” Hillsboro, Oregon
WAVU AM “The Beecher Hyde Show” Albertville, AL
WWBA AM “The Matt Bruce Show” Tampa, FL
Newsmax.com Wayne’s commentary published
DailyCaller.com Wayne’s commentary published
Breitbart.com Wayne’s commentary published
Gambling911 Wayne’s commentary published
Wayne addresses Summerlin Conservative Club of Las Vegas
KJSL AM “Dr Gina Louden Show” St Louis, Missouri
KFIG AM “The Paul Swearengin Show” Fresno, CA
WGTK AM “The Les Naiman Show” Louisville, Kentucky
WGST AM “The Rob Johnson Show” Atlanta, GA
KSCO AM “Dr. Corey Gold Show” Santa Cruz, CA
George Whitfield
February 8, 2011
Effective appearance by Root. I like his slogan “Root for America” much better than WAR. He was able to rapidly list a series of indicators that are showing economic demise. He pointed out the growth of big government under the current Obama administration. He kept smiling. A lot of positives for me.
I thought this was a pretty good appearance by Root. I agree with most of what he said. I do wonder if he can back up all of the claims he made when talking about the second great depression though.
Milnes, this is an article about Wayne Root on Russian TV talking about Obama and Egypt, it has nothing to do with Chile in 1970 or what you are trying to imply by bringing it up.
What makes me right and you wrong? We’ve discussed that before, and we won’t be discussing it again here.
I’m not bullying you and I’m not your boss. I’m giving you fair warning before extraneous comments start being removed. That was a group decision by IPR writers. I’m just the messenger. So, now that you have been warned, you can heed the warning or you can ignore it and have comments removed…your choice.
Don’t like that? Take it up with Trent Hill and Chris Martin.
paulie@20, wrong again. this is not a plas discussion between me & Sipos. Unless you consider his blogpost a plas discussion. In which case YOU posted a plas discussion.
& who says Chile `1970 cannot be corrolated to USA 2011? Your opinion no, my opinion yes. What makes you right & me wrong?
& don’t try to bully me here. You are not the boss of me.
Fun K. Chicken
February 8, 2011
William Grigg/Norma Jean Almodovar
Tagline:
F*** The Police
Robert Capozzi
February 8, 2011
possible alternative to Mubarak-Duvalier would be:
Rockwell/King
Tagline:
If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em
Libertarians for Mubarak-Duvalier 2012
February 8, 2011
First, the Libertarian Party?s 2008 presidential candidate, Bob Barr, traveled to Haiti to support former dictator Baby Doc Duvalier.
Now, the LP?s 2008 VP candidate and Birther conspiracy source, Wayne Allyn Root, defends current dictator Hosni Mubarak.
One of the commentators on the above IPR thread used the handle ?Libertarians for Duvalier/Mubarak 2012?. It wasn?t me. I thought of it myself, but as I was scrolling down, I saw that someone had beat me to it.
If two people independently invent that same joke so quickly, it?s safe to assume that others will too. Reality lends itself to that joke.
The Neocon ?Big Tent? Libertarians (a lie, since their ?Big Tent? has no room for Muslims, anarchists, non-interventionists, and other groups) promised to end the LP?s being a ?debating club.? But they never explained that they would replace the debating club with a depraved joke.
Even many Republicans and Democrats have disowned Duvalier and Mubarak, if only out of self-interest. It takes a Libertarian rat to swim to a sinking ship.
218Libertarians for Duvalier-Mubarak 2012 // Feb 7, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Just say Libertarians for Root-Barr 2012 and you?ll be saying the same thing as Duvalier-Mubarak 2012, won?t you?
220Libertarians for Mubarak-Duvalier 2012 // Feb 8, 2011 at 1:14 pm
These Duvalier-Mubarak people are off base.
First of all, Mubarak should be at the top of the ticket. Egypt is a bigger country with more people.
Mubarak is worth more money ? something like 70 or 80 Billion$ US. Meanwhile Duvalier is trying to recover a paltry few million$ with the help of Bob Barr.
Mubarak has 30 years in office. Duvalier lasted what, 15?
It is an insult to say that Duvalier should head the ticket.
Second, from comment #217 it is obvious that the Duvalier-Mubarak people are treating this whole thing as a joke.
Those of us in the Mubarak-Duvalier camp are dead serious! We CAN, SHOULD, MUST and WILL get the Libertarian nomination and the Presidency of these United States!
221Libertarians for Mubarak-Duvalier 2012 // Feb 8, 2011 at 1:17 pm
When Wayne Root says that Obama might react to the riots and demonstrations in the same way as Mubarak, he did not say that would be a BAD thing.
Mubarak is a hero for putting a stop to the communists, anarchists and Islamic extremists in Egypt. Barack Obama needs to do the same thing in the US ? NOW before things get out of hand so as to win the support of the small business leaders and millionaire Republicans that make America great.
Since Obama is being so weak on anarchists, the Anti-Anarchist business leaders of America will run a strong Mubarak-Duvalier ticket on the Libertarian Party ballot line and get him out of office.
As the first Libertarian President of the US, Mubarak will put a stop to the anarchists, just as he has been doing in Egypt, once and for all. As the saying goes, he?ll show them who?s boss.
Obama better get the message quick: crack down on the Anarchists NOW or the Libertarians will replace you with a real leader like Mubarak who knows how to get the job done!
Libertarians for Duvalier-Mubarak 2012 // Feb 8, 2011 at 10:46 am
How about Hosni Mubarak and Jean Claude Duvalier for LNC At Large?
1. They are not from Texas.
2. They have high level execution, er, I mean, executive experience with running many (water)boards.
3. Hosni Mubarak is worth like $70-80 billion. That?s nothing to sneeze at, folks.
And Baby Doc still has a few mill if Bob Barr can help him get it unlocked.
4. They know what to do with unruly, unhappy rank and file party members that get out of line.
5. As Bob Barr and Wayne Root are demonstrating, serving on the LNC is a great stepping stone to running for President.
If anyone can think of additional reasons why the LNC should appoint Duvalier and Mubarak to fill the two At Large positions please let me know!
223Libertarians for Mubarak-Duvalier 2012 // Feb 8, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Why do some people think this is a joke?
In 2002, the Libertarians were proud that they helped get Barr out of Congress. In 2006, Barr joined the LNC. By 2008 Barr was the Libertarian candidate for President.
In 2006, Wayne Root had a book out called Millionaire Republican and endorsed a John McCain-Joe Lieberman ticket for P/VPUS. Then Eric Dondero recruited him to the LP.
In 2008, Wayne Root was LP VP candidate and
McCain was the Republican presidential candidate?and Joe Lieberman was very nearly his running mate. Dondero voted for McCain.
In 2011, Bob Barr is supporting Duvalier and Wayne Root is supporting Mubarak, while Anarcho-Islamist Communists like Wes Benedict, Mark Hinkle and Lee Wrights are putting their heads in the sand, just like those Libertarians who worked against Bob Barr in 2002.
Now, there are two At Large vacancies on the LNC, so here is what we need to do.
Get Mubarak and Duvalier on the LNC now. Then get them the Presidential and Vice Presidential nominations of the Libertarian Party in 2012.
We will get backing from small businessmen and millionaire Republicans all over this country, defeat Obama, and finally put a stop to the rampant problem of Islamists, Anarchists and Communists rampaging on our streets!
VICTORY WILL BE OURS!
Accept no substitutes for the real thing.
Libertarians for Mubarak-Duvalier 2012!
AroundtheblockAFT
February 8, 2011
#17, exactly right about the Conventions.
Ron Paul votes were not counted or announced.
Ron Paul signs were confiscated from Ron Paul delegates on the floor. Had I been a delegate, they would have had to drag me out in handcuffs, gagged in front of the tv cameras, if they tried to pull that shit on me.
Libertarians for Mubarak-Duvalier 2012
February 8, 2011
Some of you people just don’t get it.
When Wayne Root says that Obama might react to the riots and demonstrations in the same way as Mubarak, he did not say that would be a BAD thing.
Mubarak is a hero for putting a stop to the communists, anarchists and Islamic extremists in Egypt. Barack Obama needs to do the same thing in the US – NOW before things get out of hand so as to win the support of the small business leaders and millionaire Republicans that make America great.
Since Obama is being so weak on anarchists, the Anti-Anarchist business leaders of America will run a strong Mubarak-Duvalier ticket on the Libertarian Party ballot line and get him out of office.
As the first Libertarian President of the US, Mubarak will put a stop to the anarchists, just as he has been doing in Egypt, once and for all. As the saying goes, he’ll show them who’s boss.
Obama better get the message quick: crack down on the Anarchists NOW or the Libertarians will replace you with a real leader like Mubarak who knows how to get the job done!
Chile in 1970 is not US 2011 in any way shape or form, the parties there and what percentages they had of the population are completely different from here and now, and please keep PLAS discussions on the PLAS thread.
The big 2 are really the smallest of 3 COMBINED.
If we look at the Chile election of 1970.
The leftist coalition @35%
Nationalists(US Constitution party) @35%.
That leaves @30% for the reactionary (US dem & rep parties) parties.
I happened to catch most of it at the time and my reaction was – thank god, they probably edited out all the pro-war, reactionary things he said… Sure, Obama might pull that stuff; the republican might too; there all control freaks. Secede!!!
Bryan
February 8, 2011
I think the “big two” political parties have shown (working with local, and to a lesser degree state and federal government) how they would react to a coordinated period of “unrest”.
Just look at the national political conventions…Every four years there is less voice for the opposition on the convention floor (don’t want to disrtupt the pep rally!)…Protesters have been placed in designated “protest areas” (usually far enough away so delegates will not see or hear them)…Organized groups have been “targeted” and shut down in advance of conventions….
I could go on…but sadly…I think everyone sees that it isn’t very “democratic”…..
If economic woes have not yet sparked US rioting, they aren’t going to now.
Things could definitely get a lot worse.
Robert Capozzi
February 8, 2011
tms11, have I made a claim of mind-reading capabilities? If I’ve given that impression, please know that I cannot read minds…I have a tough enough time reading my OWN mind, much less someone else’s.
In your case, while you’ve never made the claim explicitly, you have often emphatically claimed to know what Root’s motives and next steps will be…that sounds like mind reading to me, but maybe there’s a better term for it! Prescient dot connecting, perhaps….
Hey, Capozzi, since you’ve often claimed to be a mind-reader yourself, I’ll let you tell me what’s on Obama’s mind.
Robert Capozzi
February 8, 2011
w9: If economic woes have not yet sparked US rioting, they aren’t going to now.
me: I agree that this sort of speculation is silly, but I’m not so sure we’ve seen the nadir. Things could get much worse here. There are still many risks, including geopolitical risks that could affect the economy severely.
wolfefan
February 8, 2011
If economic woes have not yet sparked US rioting, they aren’t going to now. This kind of speculation is silly. I guess there are no real, tangible issues for disagreement with Obama so we have to imagine what would happen if people filled the streets of DC. A side note – we do have gridlock here sometimes, but folks aren’t usually stuck there for two weeks, and they aren’t always peaceful. 🙂
Robert Capozzi
February 8, 2011
Of course we cannot know what Obama might do in such a speculative scenario. It depends on the specifics. Would what Obama might do be significantly different than what Bush might have done? We can’t know that, either, but I see no reason to think it would be appreciably different.
The broader question is why engage in such speculation at all? What purpose does it serve? Fanning the flames of paranoia, perhaps?
I am surprised that Brother Sipos doesn’t volunteer what Obama might or might not do in such a circumstance. 😉 If he can read Root’s mind, why not Obama’s?
Seriously, don’t we have enough on our plate to critique the Obama Administration for?
Steven R Linnabary
February 8, 2011
Not bad. Everyone can be happy.
His supporters can point to another major media appearance, giving more credence to the claim that he gets unprecedented news coverage. And detractors can breathe a sigh of relief that he never mentioned the LP.
AFAIC, he was spot on, though he did again lay the blame at Obama’s feet. And when the interviewer went into the question of whether people in the US will take to the streets he could have said it was already happening with the TEA Party.
Right. Don’t mention the A word.
No, I agree with Sipos, here. Can’t stomach the portions of the same old swill anymore.
You watch it.
Observer
February 8, 2011
What he said was a compilation of his two articles on Egypt. I don’t think he said “anarchists” at all. In fact, I don’t think he said anything I object to at all. My guess is that the TV show called him about the subject matter.
srl: And that is a strategy that has worked, albeit not nearly as quickly as we had hoped 20-30 years ago.
me: hmm, “worked” in what sense? Topping out at 30K? Size of government being substantially larger today that 3 decades ago?
A candidate embodies an “ism” by what he/she says and does. People learn by demonstration more than from didactic tactics.
The Barr campaign had many millstones, but it was on the better-resourced Clark model. That model DID work, near as I can tell.
Root is playing his role, fairly well. His role is as L pundit, promoting Root L-ism and Root. I would not and do not expect him to usurp the roles that Hinkle and Benedict serve, and frankly I would not want him to.
Aside from perhaps Boortz, Root is the first L pundit in that he’s explicitly L, not L-leaning like Stossel or Carlson or Williams. I would say in the past year or 2, Gillespie has been coming on very strong, along with the Welch, Balko, and Mangu-Ward. The Reasonoids are now B listers by my estimation, with Root probably in the B to C range. (There are benefits to living in DC.) These are all excellent developments, although still all inconsequential. Having good ideas is no substitute for implementing them.
Gains…that’s your cue
Other ppl too of course…
WWND ___ what would Nolan do??? the only pin i sported at our convention was his , id love to have some what would nolan do graphics!!:) anyone
Seriously, with all those media appearances, we SHOULD have many new members in the Libertarian party. Why hasn’t that happened?
And why would that be?
Wayne is selling Wayne, not the LP. He rarely mentions the LP, even in this interview. I’d be willing to bet that Wayne’s email list is growing exponentially. So that isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
I have my doubts that this strategy can work as it failed miserably with the Barr campaign.
In the past, our candidates explained libertarianism and helped the voter come to their own conclusion. And that is a strategy that has worked, albeit not nearly as quickly as we had hoped 20-30 years ago.
PEACE
o35, media is air cover. What are we doing to close?
and i know , and i know because of KRS1—– YOU-MUST-LEARN!
Seriously, with all those media appearances, we SHOULD have many new members in the Libertarian party. Why hasn’t that happened?
Tagline:
F*** The Police
Make sure to have plenty of protection available if and when you do.
The lighting d camera angle made look small and gaunt, almost ghoulish.
@ 26 William Grigg/Norma Jean Almodovar
Tagline:
F*** The Police
http://www.lp.org/blogs/wayne-allyn-root/wayne-allyn-root-on-another-national-media-blitz
Wayne Allyn Root on Another National Media Blitz
posted by Wayne Allyn Root on Feb 08, 2011
Wayne Allyn Root, Libertarian National Congressional Committee Chairman and Best-Selling Author has made another national media blitz. His 22 media appearances below include an appearance on Russia Today TV Network (see video below).
Link to Wayne Root’s appearance on Russia Today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWvt1A1hLlw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
“The Big Biz Show with Russ & Sully” Nationally Syndicated
“The Bill Cunningham Show” National Radio Premiere Radio Network
“The Jerry Doyle Show” Nationally syndicated
“The Big Biz Show with Russ & Sully” Nationally syndicated
Russia Today National TV (via Skype)
“The Alan Nathan Show” Nationally Syndicated
“The Bob Connors Show” Columbus, Ohio
KVEL/KLCY “The Lincoln Brown Show” Vernal, Utah
KNOX AM Grand Forks, ND “The RJ Richards Show”
KUIK AM “The Jayne Caroll Show” Hillsboro, Oregon
WAVU AM “The Beecher Hyde Show” Albertville, AL
WWBA AM “The Matt Bruce Show” Tampa, FL
Newsmax.com Wayne’s commentary published
DailyCaller.com Wayne’s commentary published
Breitbart.com Wayne’s commentary published
Gambling911 Wayne’s commentary published
Wayne addresses Summerlin Conservative Club of Las Vegas
KJSL AM “Dr Gina Louden Show” St Louis, Missouri
KFIG AM “The Paul Swearengin Show” Fresno, CA
WGTK AM “The Les Naiman Show” Louisville, Kentucky
WGST AM “The Rob Johnson Show” Atlanta, GA
KSCO AM “Dr. Corey Gold Show” Santa Cruz, CA
Effective appearance by Root. I like his slogan “Root for America” much better than WAR. He was able to rapidly list a series of indicators that are showing economic demise. He pointed out the growth of big government under the current Obama administration. He kept smiling. A lot of positives for me.
I thought this was a pretty good appearance by Root. I agree with most of what he said. I do wonder if he can back up all of the claims he made when talking about the second great depression though.
Milnes, this is an article about Wayne Root on Russian TV talking about Obama and Egypt, it has nothing to do with Chile in 1970 or what you are trying to imply by bringing it up.
What makes me right and you wrong? We’ve discussed that before, and we won’t be discussing it again here.
I’m not bullying you and I’m not your boss. I’m giving you fair warning before extraneous comments start being removed. That was a group decision by IPR writers. I’m just the messenger. So, now that you have been warned, you can heed the warning or you can ignore it and have comments removed…your choice.
Don’t like that? Take it up with Trent Hill and Chris Martin.
paulie@20, wrong again. this is not a plas discussion between me & Sipos. Unless you consider his blogpost a plas discussion. In which case YOU posted a plas discussion.
& who says Chile `1970 cannot be corrolated to USA 2011? Your opinion no, my opinion yes. What makes you right & me wrong?
& don’t try to bully me here. You are not the boss of me.
William Grigg/Norma Jean Almodovar
Tagline:
F*** The Police
possible alternative to Mubarak-Duvalier would be:
Rockwell/King
Tagline:
If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em
Posted at https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2011/02/wayne-root-how-the-media-blew-it-again-the-lessons-we-should-be-learning-from-egyptian-crisis/ starting with comment 217:
Libertarians for Duvalier-Mubarak 2012 // Feb 7, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Libertarians for Duvalier-Mubarak 2012 is spreading
Thomas Sipos writes at
http://libertarianpeacenik.blogspot.com/2011/02/libertarians-for-duvaliermubarak-2012.html
First, the Libertarian Party?s 2008 presidential candidate, Bob Barr, traveled to Haiti to support former dictator Baby Doc Duvalier.
Now, the LP?s 2008 VP candidate and Birther conspiracy source, Wayne Allyn Root, defends current dictator Hosni Mubarak.
One of the commentators on the above IPR thread used the handle ?Libertarians for Duvalier/Mubarak 2012?. It wasn?t me. I thought of it myself, but as I was scrolling down, I saw that someone had beat me to it.
If two people independently invent that same joke so quickly, it?s safe to assume that others will too. Reality lends itself to that joke.
The Neocon ?Big Tent? Libertarians (a lie, since their ?Big Tent? has no room for Muslims, anarchists, non-interventionists, and other groups) promised to end the LP?s being a ?debating club.? But they never explained that they would replace the debating club with a depraved joke.
Even many Republicans and Democrats have disowned Duvalier and Mubarak, if only out of self-interest. It takes a Libertarian rat to swim to a sinking ship.
218Libertarians for Duvalier-Mubarak 2012 // Feb 7, 2011 at 9:14 pm
http://www.libertarianstandard.com/2011/02/03/the-tyrant-rehabilitation-party/
The Tyrant Rehabilitation Party
by Brian Martinez on February 3, 2011
in The Right,Totalitarianism,Vulgar Politics
219Carol Moore // Feb 7, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Just say Libertarians for Root-Barr 2012 and you?ll be saying the same thing as Duvalier-Mubarak 2012, won?t you?
220Libertarians for Mubarak-Duvalier 2012 // Feb 8, 2011 at 1:14 pm
These Duvalier-Mubarak people are off base.
First of all, Mubarak should be at the top of the ticket. Egypt is a bigger country with more people.
Mubarak is worth more money ? something like 70 or 80 Billion$ US. Meanwhile Duvalier is trying to recover a paltry few million$ with the help of Bob Barr.
Mubarak has 30 years in office. Duvalier lasted what, 15?
It is an insult to say that Duvalier should head the ticket.
Second, from comment #217 it is obvious that the Duvalier-Mubarak people are treating this whole thing as a joke.
Those of us in the Mubarak-Duvalier camp are dead serious! We CAN, SHOULD, MUST and WILL get the Libertarian nomination and the Presidency of these United States!
221Libertarians for Mubarak-Duvalier 2012 // Feb 8, 2011 at 1:17 pm
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2011/02/wayne-root-on-russian-television-wwod-would-obama-act-differently-than-mubarak/
Some of you people just don?t get it.
When Wayne Root says that Obama might react to the riots and demonstrations in the same way as Mubarak, he did not say that would be a BAD thing.
Mubarak is a hero for putting a stop to the communists, anarchists and Islamic extremists in Egypt. Barack Obama needs to do the same thing in the US ? NOW before things get out of hand so as to win the support of the small business leaders and millionaire Republicans that make America great.
Since Obama is being so weak on anarchists, the Anti-Anarchist business leaders of America will run a strong Mubarak-Duvalier ticket on the Libertarian Party ballot line and get him out of office.
As the first Libertarian President of the US, Mubarak will put a stop to the anarchists, just as he has been doing in Egypt, once and for all. As the saying goes, he?ll show them who?s boss.
Obama better get the message quick: crack down on the Anarchists NOW or the Libertarians will replace you with a real leader like Mubarak who knows how to get the job done!
See also: See https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2011/01/what-will-obama-do-if-egyptian-style-crisis-unrest-revolt-hits-america/
222Libertarians for Mubarak-Duvalier 2012 // Feb 8, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Now, don?t get me wrong.
The Duvalier-Mubarak supporters are may take this whole thing as a joke and they may want to have the wrong man on top.
But, even a broken clock is right twice a day!
At
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2011/02/liberty-for-america-february-2011-issue-is-out/
Libertarians for Duvalier-Mubarak 2012 // Feb 8, 2011 at 10:46 am
How about Hosni Mubarak and Jean Claude Duvalier for LNC At Large?
1. They are not from Texas.
2. They have high level execution, er, I mean, executive experience with running many (water)boards.
3. Hosni Mubarak is worth like $70-80 billion. That?s nothing to sneeze at, folks.
And Baby Doc still has a few mill if Bob Barr can help him get it unlocked.
4. They know what to do with unruly, unhappy rank and file party members that get out of line.
5. As Bob Barr and Wayne Root are demonstrating, serving on the LNC is a great stepping stone to running for President.
If anyone can think of additional reasons why the LNC should appoint Duvalier and Mubarak to fill the two At Large positions please let me know!
223Libertarians for Mubarak-Duvalier 2012 // Feb 8, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Why do some people think this is a joke?
In 2002, the Libertarians were proud that they helped get Barr out of Congress. In 2006, Barr joined the LNC. By 2008 Barr was the Libertarian candidate for President.
In 2006, Wayne Root had a book out called Millionaire Republican and endorsed a John McCain-Joe Lieberman ticket for P/VPUS. Then Eric Dondero recruited him to the LP.
In 2008, Wayne Root was LP VP candidate and
McCain was the Republican presidential candidate?and Joe Lieberman was very nearly his running mate. Dondero voted for McCain.
In 2011, Bob Barr is supporting Duvalier and Wayne Root is supporting Mubarak, while Anarcho-Islamist Communists like Wes Benedict, Mark Hinkle and Lee Wrights are putting their heads in the sand, just like those Libertarians who worked against Bob Barr in 2002.
Now, there are two At Large vacancies on the LNC, so here is what we need to do.
Get Mubarak and Duvalier on the LNC now. Then get them the Presidential and Vice Presidential nominations of the Libertarian Party in 2012.
We will get backing from small businessmen and millionaire Republicans all over this country, defeat Obama, and finally put a stop to the rampant problem of Islamists, Anarchists and Communists rampaging on our streets!
VICTORY WILL BE OURS!
Accept no substitutes for the real thing.
Libertarians for Mubarak-Duvalier 2012!
#17, exactly right about the Conventions.
Ron Paul votes were not counted or announced.
Ron Paul signs were confiscated from Ron Paul delegates on the floor. Had I been a delegate, they would have had to drag me out in handcuffs, gagged in front of the tv cameras, if they tried to pull that shit on me.
Some of you people just don’t get it.
When Wayne Root says that Obama might react to the riots and demonstrations in the same way as Mubarak, he did not say that would be a BAD thing.
Mubarak is a hero for putting a stop to the communists, anarchists and Islamic extremists in Egypt. Barack Obama needs to do the same thing in the US – NOW before things get out of hand so as to win the support of the small business leaders and millionaire Republicans that make America great.
Since Obama is being so weak on anarchists, the Anti-Anarchist business leaders of America will run a strong Mubarak-Duvalier ticket on the Libertarian Party ballot line and get him out of office.
As the first Libertarian President of the US, Mubarak will put a stop to the anarchists, just as he has been doing in Egypt, once and for all. As the saying goes, he’ll show them who’s boss.
Obama better get the message quick: crack down on the Anarchists NOW or the Libertarians will replace you with a real leader like Mubarak who knows how to get the job done!
Tru dat…
Milnes,
Chile in 1970 is not US 2011 in any way shape or form, the parties there and what percentages they had of the population are completely different from here and now, and please keep PLAS discussions on the PLAS thread.
The big 2 are really the smallest of 3 COMBINED.
If we look at the Chile election of 1970.
The leftist coalition @35%
Nationalists(US Constitution party) @35%.
That leaves @30% for the reactionary (US dem & rep parties) parties.
I happened to catch most of it at the time and my reaction was – thank god, they probably edited out all the pro-war, reactionary things he said… Sure, Obama might pull that stuff; the republican might too; there all control freaks. Secede!!!
I think the “big two” political parties have shown (working with local, and to a lesser degree state and federal government) how they would react to a coordinated period of “unrest”.
Just look at the national political conventions…Every four years there is less voice for the opposition on the convention floor (don’t want to disrtupt the pep rally!)…Protesters have been placed in designated “protest areas” (usually far enough away so delegates will not see or hear them)…Organized groups have been “targeted” and shut down in advance of conventions….
I could go on…but sadly…I think everyone sees that it isn’t very “democratic”…..
“our founding fathers would have been shooting already”
Things could definitely get a lot worse.
tms11, have I made a claim of mind-reading capabilities? If I’ve given that impression, please know that I cannot read minds…I have a tough enough time reading my OWN mind, much less someone else’s.
In your case, while you’ve never made the claim explicitly, you have often emphatically claimed to know what Root’s motives and next steps will be…that sounds like mind reading to me, but maybe there’s a better term for it! Prescient dot connecting, perhaps….
See https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2011/01/what-will-obama-do-if-egyptian-style-crisis-unrest-revolt-hits-america/
As goes Mubarak, so goes Barack?
Hey, Capozzi, since you’ve often claimed to be a mind-reader yourself, I’ll let you tell me what’s on Obama’s mind.
w9: If economic woes have not yet sparked US rioting, they aren’t going to now.
me: I agree that this sort of speculation is silly, but I’m not so sure we’ve seen the nadir. Things could get much worse here. There are still many risks, including geopolitical risks that could affect the economy severely.
If economic woes have not yet sparked US rioting, they aren’t going to now. This kind of speculation is silly. I guess there are no real, tangible issues for disagreement with Obama so we have to imagine what would happen if people filled the streets of DC. A side note – we do have gridlock here sometimes, but folks aren’t usually stuck there for two weeks, and they aren’t always peaceful. 🙂
Of course we cannot know what Obama might do in such a speculative scenario. It depends on the specifics. Would what Obama might do be significantly different than what Bush might have done? We can’t know that, either, but I see no reason to think it would be appreciably different.
The broader question is why engage in such speculation at all? What purpose does it serve? Fanning the flames of paranoia, perhaps?
I am surprised that Brother Sipos doesn’t volunteer what Obama might or might not do in such a circumstance. 😉 If he can read Root’s mind, why not Obama’s?
Seriously, don’t we have enough on our plate to critique the Obama Administration for?
Not bad. Everyone can be happy.
His supporters can point to another major media appearance, giving more credence to the claim that he gets unprecedented news coverage. And detractors can breathe a sigh of relief that he never mentioned the LP.
AFAIC, he was spot on, though he did again lay the blame at Obama’s feet. And when the interviewer went into the question of whether people in the US will take to the streets he could have said it was already happening with the TEA Party.
I did not watch it.
I’m not a masochist.
Right. Don’t mention the A word.
No, I agree with Sipos, here. Can’t stomach the portions of the same old swill anymore.
You watch it.
What he said was a compilation of his two articles on Egypt. I don’t think he said “anarchists” at all. In fact, I don’t think he said anything I object to at all. My guess is that the TV show called him about the subject matter.
Robert, Robert, Robert.
Do you agree with what Root had to say? Disagree?
I didn’t watch it. Watching Root makes me ill. Someone with a stronger stomach please fill me in.
Is Root suggesting that Obama would behave like Mubarak?
Yet Root previously said that most Egyptians — especially small businessmen — support Mubarak.
So, does Root now think that American small businessmen support Obama?
Or has Root flip-flopped on his previous praise for Mubarak, and now he hates Mubarak?
What’s Root’s position this week?
Ho-hum. Another dose of Root. Brought to us by Starr.
Ho, hum.