Chuck Baldwin: Remembering the Alamo

March 6 marks the anniversary of the fall of the Alamo back in 1836. For more than 13 days, 186 brave and determined patriots withstood Santa Anna’s seasoned army of over 4,000 troops. To a man, the defenders of that mission fort knew they would never leave those ramparts alive. They had several opportunities to leave and live. Yet, they chose to fight and die. How foolish they must look to this generation of spoiled Americans.

It is difficult to recall that stouthearted men such as Davy Crockett (a nationally known frontiersman and former congressman), Will Travis (only 23 years old with a little baby at home), and Jim Bowie (a wealthy landowner with properties on both sides of the Rio Grande) really existed. These were real men with real dreams and real desires. Real blood flowed through their veins. They loved their families and enjoyed life as much as any of us do. There was something different about them, however. They possessed a commitment to liberty that transcended personal safety and comfort.

Liberty is an easy word to say, but it is a hard word to live up to. Freedom has little to do with financial gain or personal pleasure. Accompanying Freedom is her constant and unattractive companion, Responsibility. Neither is she an only child. Patriotism and Morality are her sisters. They are inseparable: destroy one and all will die.

Early in the siege, Travis wrote these words to the people of Texas: “Fellow Citizens & Compatriots: I am besieged by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna. . . . The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise the garrison are to be put to the sword . . . I have answered the demand with a cannon shot & our flag still waves proudly from the walls. I shall never surrender or retreat. . . . VICTORY OR DEATH! P.S. The Lord is on our side. . . .”

As you read those words, remember that Travis and the others did not have the A.C.L.U., P.E.T.A., People for the un-American Way, and the National Education Association telling them how intolerant and narrow-minded their notions of honor and patriotism were. A hostile media did not constantly castigate them as a bunch of wild-eyed extremists. As schoolchildren, they were not taught that their forefathers were nothing more than racist jerks.

The brave men at the Alamo labored under the belief that America (and Texas) really was “the land of the free and the home of the brave.” They believed God was on their side and that the freedom of future generations depended on their courage and resolve. They further believed their posterity would remember their sacrifice as an act of love and devotion. It all looks pale now.

By today’s standards, the gallant men of the Alamo appear rather foolish. After all, they had no chance of winning–none. However, the call for pragmatism and practicality was never sounded. Instead, they answered the clarion call, “Victory or death!”

Please try to remember the heroes of the Alamo as you watch our gutless political and religious leaders surrender to globalism, corporatism, and political correctness. Try to recall the time in this country when ordinary men and women had the courage of their convictions and were willing to sacrifice their lives for freedom and independence.

One thing is certain: those courageous champions at the Alamo did not die for a political party or for some “lesser of two evils” mantra. They fought and died for a principle, and that principle was liberty and independence. So did the men at Lexington and Concord. That is our heritage.

Today, however, our national leaders are in the process of turning America over to the very forces that the Alamo defenders gave their lives resisting. On second thought, do they look foolish, or do we?

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72 thoughts on “Chuck Baldwin: Remembering the Alamo

  1. Don Lake, FYI, not necessarily a unilateral endorcement

    oh plz, god is on every one’s side every where all the time. Don’t believe me? Just ask the opposing forces! Like the Anglo Saxons and the Saxony Saxons in WWI!

    The alamo, IN FOREIGN HANDS and taken over by the FOREIGN TEJANS! I am going take the Trans Siberian Rail Road to Russia’s Lake Bakal! We, as patriotic Americans, are going to ‘liberate’ it for the USA! Wanna come along fellow patriots?

  2. Fun K. Chicken

    Quick history lesson:

    The Anglo Texas moved to Mexico, declared themselves to be loyal Mexican citizens, and brought their black slaves with them. Then, when Mexico outlawed slavery, they seceded from Mexico, and got more Anglos to fight the Mexicans for them. Eventually, they got the US to fight on their side, and conquer half of Mexico – Everything from California to Wyoming.

    A few years later, the US also outlawed slavery, so they seceded again. This time they lost. The Mexicans never got their land back.

  3. paulie

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Revolution

    ……The first group of colonists, known as the Old Three Hundred, had arrived in 1822 to settle an empresarial grant that had been given to Stephen F. Austin. Of the 24 empresarios, only one settled citizens from within the Mexican interior; most of the remaining settlers came from the United States.[5]

    The Mexican-born settlers in Tejas were soon vastly outnumbered by people born in the United States. To address this situation, President Anastasio Bustamante implemented several measures on April 6, 1830. Chief among these was a prohibition against further immigration to Tejas from the United States, although American citizens would be allowed to settle in other parts of Mexico. Furthermore, the property tax law, intended to exempt immigrants from paying taxes for ten years, was rescinded, and tariffs were increased on goods shipped from the United States. Bustamante also ordered all Tejas settlers to comply with the federal prohibition against slavery or face military intervention.[6] These measures did not have the intended effect. Settlers simply circumvented or ignored the laws. By 1834, it was estimated that over 30,000 Anglos lived in Coahuila y Tejas,[7] compared to only 7,800 Mexican-born citizens.[8] By 1836, there were approximately 5,000 slaves in Texas.[9]……….

    With Santa Anna a prisoner, his captors forced him to sign the Treaties of Velasco on May 14. The treaty recognized Texas’s independence and guaranteed Santa Anna’s life. The initial plan was to send him back to Mexico to help smooth relations between the two states. His departure was delayed by a mob who wanted him dead. Santa Anna, declaring himself as the only person who could bring about peace, was sent to Washington, D.C., by the Texas government to meet President Jackson in order to guarantee independence of the new republic. But unknown to Santa Anna, the Mexican government deposed him in absentia; thus, he no longer had any authority to represent Mexico. The Treaty of Velasco was never ratified in Mexico, from the end of the revolution to roughly the beginning of the Mexican-American War, the Texas navy was tasked with forcing the Mexican Government to accept Texas independence. Although fighting between the Mexican and Texian armies ceased, battles on water and on the coast were still unfolding.

  4. paulie

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican-American_War

    The Mexican–American War was an armed conflict between the United States and Mexico from 1846 to 1848 in the wake of the 1845 U.S. annexation of Texas, which Mexico considered part of its territory despite the 1836 Texas Revolution.

    In addition to a naval blockade off the Mexican coast, American forces invaded and conquered New Mexico, California, ………

    In the United States, increasingly divided by sectional rivalry, the war was a partisan issue and an essential element in the origins of the American Civil War. Most Whigs in the North and South opposed it;[21] most Democrats supported it.[22] Southern Democrats, animated by a popular belief in Manifest Destiny, supported it in hopes of adding territory to the South and avoiding being outnumbered by the faster-growing North. John O’Sullivan, the editor of the “Democratic Review”, coined this phrase in its context, stating that it must be “Our manifest destiny to overspread the continent alloted by Providence for the free development of our yearly multiplying millions.”

    ………..

    Northern abolitionists attacked the war as an attempt by slave-owners—frequently referred to as “the Slave Power”—to strengthen the grip of slavery and thus ensure their continued influence in the federal government. Acting on his convictions, Henry David Thoreau was jailed for his refusal to pay taxes to support the war, and penned his famous essay, Civil Disobedience.

    ………..

    The war was one of the most decisive events for the United States in the first half of the nineteenth century. While it marked a significant waypoint for the nation as a growing military power, it also served as a milestone especially within the U.S. narrative of Manifest Destiny. The resultant territorial gains set in motion many of the defining trends in American nineteenth-century history, particularly for the American West. The war did not resolve the issue of slavery in the U.S. but rather in many ways inflamed it, as potential westward expansion of the institution took an increasingly central and heated theme in national debates preceding the American Civil War.

  5. Jerry S.

    “Liberty is the only thing you cannot have unless you are willing to give it to others.”-William Allen White

    You must understand the past before you will understand the present.

    “Slavery results from laws, laws are made by governments, and, therefore people can only be freed from slavery by the abolition of governments…. And it is time for people to understand that governments not only are not necessary, but are harmful and most highly immoral institutions, in which a self-respecting, honest man cannot and must not take part.”
    – Leo Tolstoy – “The Slavery of Our Times” (1900)

    “Political tags-such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth-are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.” — Robert A Heinlein

  6. RedPhillips Post author

    “A few years later, the US also outlawed slavery, so they seceded again.”

    This is not correct. The US did not outlaw slavery before Texas seceded.

  7. Jerry S.

    Mr. Red they write history the way THEY choose to now. You would be SHOCKED to read a public school history book these days !

  8. Brian

    Liberty! How dare that tyrannical Mexican government tell them to free the slaves. Nothing like revisionist history to get the right-wing really fired up!

    Let’s be honest, god would have probably backed the Mexicans in this one.

  9. paulie

    This is not correct. The US did not outlaw slavery before Texas seceded.

    This is true, but the writing was on the wall. With a Republican Congress, slavery wouldn’t expand in the west, and they would soon find themselves heavily outvoted. And while Lincoln offered to preserve slavery, I guess they did not believe him.

    Texas Declaration of causes of secession:


    Texas
    [Copied by Justin Sanders from E.W. Winkler, ed., *Journal of the Secession Convention of Texas*, pp. 61-66.]
    A Declaration of the Causes which Impel the State of Texas to Secede from the Federal Union.

    The government of the United States, by certain joint resolutions, bearing date the 1st day of March, in the year A.D. 1845, proposed to the Republic of Texas, then *a free, sovereign and independent nation* [emphasis in the original], the annexation of the latter to the former, as one of the co-equal states thereof,

    The people of Texas, by deputies in convention assembled, on the fourth day of July of the same year, assented to and accepted said proposals and formed a constitution for the proposed State, upon which on the 29th day of December in the same year, said State was formally admitted into the Confederated Union.

    Texas abandoned her separate national existence and consented to become one of the Confederated Union to promote her welfare, insure domestic tranquility and secure more substantially the blessings of peace and liberty to her people. She was received into the confederacy with her own constitution, under the guarantee of the federal constitution and the compact of annexation, that she should enjoy these blessings. She was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery– the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits– a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which her people intended should exist in all future time. Her institutions and geographical position established the strongest ties between her and other slave-holding States of the confederacy. Those ties have been strengthened by association. But what has been the course of the government of the United States, and of the people and authorities of the non-slave-holding States, since our connection with them?

    The controlling majority of the Federal Government, under various pretences and disguises, has so administered the same as to exclude the citizens of the Southern States, unless under odious and unconstitutional restrictions, from all the immense territory owned in common by all the States on the Pacific Ocean, for the avowed purpose of acquiring sufficient power in the common government to use it as a means of destroying the institutions of Texas and her sister slaveholding States.

    By the disloyalty of the Northern States and their citizens and the imbecility of the Federal Government, infamous combinations of incendiaries and outlaws have been permitted in those States and the common territory of Kansas to trample upon the federal laws, to war upon the lives and property of Southern citizens in that territory, and finally, by violence and mob law, to usurp the possession of the same as exclusively the property of the Northern States.

    The Federal Government, while but partially under the control of these our unnatural and sectional enemies, has for years almost entirely failed to protect the lives and property of the people of Texas against the Indian savages on our border, and more recently against the murderous forays of banditti from the neighboring territory of Mexico; and when our State government has expended large amounts for such purpose, the Federal Government has refuse reimbursement therefor, thus rendering our condition more insecure and harassing than it was during the existence of the Republic of Texas.

    These and other wrongs we have patiently borne in the vain hope that a returning sense of justice and humanity would induce a different course of administration.

    When we advert to the course of individual non-slave-holding States, and that a majority of their citizens, our grievances assume far greater magnitude.

    The States of Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan and Iowa, by solemn legislative enactments, have deliberately, directly or indirectly violated the 3rd clause of the 2nd section of the 4th article [the fugitive slave clause] of the federal constitution, and laws passed in pursuance thereof; thereby annulling a material provision of the compact, designed by its framers to perpetuate the amity between the members of the confederacy and to secure the rights of the slave-holding States in their domestic institutions– a provision founded in justice and wisdom, and without the enforcement of which the compact fails to accomplish the object of its creation. Some of those States have imposed high fines and degrading penalties upon any of their citizens or officers who may carry out in good faith that provision of the compact, or the federal laws enacted in accordance therewith.

    In all the non-slave-holding States, in violation of that good faith and comity which should exist between entirely distinct nations, the people have formed themselves into a great sectional party, now strong enough in numbers to control the affairs of each of those States, based upon an unnatural feeling of hostility to these Southern States and their beneficent and patriarchal system of African slavery, proclaiming the debasing doctrine of equality of all men, irrespective of race or color– a doctrine at war with nature, in opposition to the experience of mankind, and in violation of the plainest revelations of Divine Law. They demand the abolition of negro slavery throughout the confederacy, the recognition of political equality between the white and negro races, and avow their determination to press on their crusade against us, so long as a negro slave remains in these States.

    For years past this abolition organization has been actively sowing the seeds of discord through the Union, and has rendered the federal congress the arena for spreading firebrands and hatred between the slave-holding and non-slave-holding States.

    By consolidating their strength, they have placed the slave-holding States in a hopeless minority in the federal congress, and rendered representation of no avail in protecting Southern rights against their exactions and encroachments.

    They have proclaimed, and at the ballot box sustained, the revolutionary doctrine that there is a ‘higher law’ than the constitution and laws of our Federal Union, and virtually that they will disregard their oaths and trample upon our rights.

    They have for years past encouraged and sustained lawless organizations to steal our slaves and prevent their recapture, and have repeatedly murdered Southern citizens while lawfully seeking their rendition.

    They have invaded Southern soil and murdered unoffending citizens, and through the press their leading men and a fanatical pulpit have bestowed praise upon the actors and assassins in these crimes, while the governors of several of their States have refused to deliver parties implicated and indicted for participation in such offenses, upon the legal demands of the States aggrieved.

    They have, through the mails and hired emissaries, sent seditious pamphlets and papers among us to stir up servile insurrection and bring blood and carnage to our firesides.

    They have sent hired emissaries among us to burn our towns and distribute arms and poison to our slaves for the same purpose.

    They have impoverished the slave-holding States by unequal and partial legislation, thereby enriching themselves by draining our substance.

    They have refused to vote appropriations for protecting Texas against ruthless savages, for the sole reason that she is a slave-holding State.

    And, finally, by the combined sectional vote of the seventeen non-slave-holding States, they have elected as president and vice-president of the whole confederacy two men whose chief claims to such high positions are their approval of these long continued wrongs, and their pledges to continue them to the final consummation of these schemes for the ruin of the slave-holding States.

    In view of these and many other facts, it is meet that our own views should be distinctly proclaimed.

    We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.

    That in this free government *all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights* [emphasis in the original]; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states.

    By the secession of six of the slave-holding States, and the certainty that others will speedily do likewise, Texas has no alternative but to remain in an isolated connection with the North, or unite her destinies with the South.

    For these and other reasons, solemnly asserting that the federal constitution has been violated and virtually abrogated by the several States named, seeing that the federal government is now passing under the control of our enemies to be diverted from the exalted objects of its creation to those of oppression and wrong, and realizing that our own State can no longer look for protection, but to God and her own sons– We the delegates of the people of Texas, in Convention assembled, have passed an ordinance dissolving all political connection with the government of the United States of America and the people thereof and confidently appeal to the intelligence and patriotism of the freemen of Texas to ratify the same at the ballot box, on the 23rd day of the present month.

    Adopted in Convention on the 2nd day of Feby, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-one and of the independence of Texas the twenty-fifth.

  10. Michael Cavlan RN

    Viva El Battalion De San Patricia.

    The St Patricks Batallion was a US military brigade, made up of Irish immigrants who fought in the US/Mexican war. They realized that the United States were in the wrong.

    They left the US Military and joined the Mexicans. They were captured and hung.

    Till this day, there is a ceremony to celebrate them in Mexico City. They were led by a Limrick man called Captain John Reilly. There was a movie celbrating their history called One Mans Hero.

    Irish. We stand by principles.

    Happy St Pats Day

    Paulie. Could you show the you tube clip St Patrick’s Batallion by David Rovics here?

  11. Michael Cavlan RN

    Paulie

    Ah shoire an’ t’anks. Ye have made dis puur wee Oirishman happy as sin.

    Happy St Paddy’s Day to ye and the rest of yer clan.

    Of course this makes that whole Alamo, fighting for “liberty” thing that Chuck Baldwin was blathering about seem like, well so much shit.

    The Americans at the Alamo were fighting AGAINST Liberty.

  12. paulie

    Mr. Cavlan, as Jerry posted a few comments back:

    “Liberty is the only thing you cannot have unless you are willing to give it to others.”-William Allen White

    You must understand the past before you will understand the present.

    Slainte!

  13. paulie

    You may also like this, from another thread yesterday — the first two comments were posted in Boneheadese, so I had to translate them 🙂

    #

    Ovens of Auschwitz // Mar 3, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    Hi there. I’m an ignorant bonehead bigot, sexually insecure and deficient in intelligence. I don’t like Jews, Hispanics, Blacks or Muslims. My heroes include Adolf Hitler and a Belgian Bonehead whose hate filled song lyrics I posted here. They both killed themselves. That gives me something to consider as well.
    #

    20 CounterJihad // Mar 3, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    Good afternoon. I’m a bigot who hates Muslims, and posted the lyrics of a Muslim-hating song here at IPR because I thought it was really clever. The bonehead who wrote this song killed himself, just like my hero Adolf Hitler. Perhaps I should do the same.
    #

    21 LibertarianGirl // Mar 3, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    go fuck yourself
    #

    22 Don Lake, FYI, not necessarily a unilateral endorcement // Mar 3, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    some times the weapons need to be sharpened
    #

    23 paulie // Mar 3, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Sometimes boneheads need to be SHARPened 😛

  14. Fun K. Chicken

    “Liberty is the only thing you cannot have unless you are willing to give it to others.”-William Allen White

    You must understand the past before you will understand the present.

    Yes, it seems the Anglo Texans did want to give liberty to their black slaves, so they fought three wars for their “liberty” to enslave others – the Texas Revolution and Mexican-American war, which they won, and the conflict most commonly known as the American Civil War, which they lost. You must understand the past before you will understand the present.

  15. paulie

    @13 quite a contrast with the US Declaration of independence from Britain…kind of mockery or black mass satire of it:

    In view of these and many other facts, it is meet that our own views should be distinctly proclaimed.

    We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.

    That in this free government *all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights* [emphasis in the original]; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states.

  16. Barretta

    I heard Ossie Osburn talk about how he took a (leak) on the Alamo, unaware of the history.

    (all aboard!!)

  17. Barretta

    just noticed at end of Chuck article about “donations” accepted! shameless. Get a real Job Baldwin! (so sick of this!!)

  18. Don Lake, FYI, not necessarily a unilateral endorcement

    told ya so, told ya so, never got ’round to hating the guy, but I also never got ’round to admiring him. He has always struck me as Dumb and Dumber and not the brightest light on the Christmas tree (a pagan symbol).

    If I ever find out that he has more than a room temperature IQ ——– I will quickly grow to hate him [as a Patrick and Baye Buchanan style of liar and thief].

  19. Cody Quirk

    Barretta, learn to spell Ozzy’s name for once and get a damn education, moron.

  20. Cody Quirk

    He has always struck me as Dumb and Dumber and not the brightest light on the Christmas tree (a pagan symbol).

    = He certainly ran a better Presidential campaign and got way more votes then the incompetent Alan Keyes.

  21. Don Lake, FYI, not necessarily a unilateral endorcement

    cadet captain coty banks quirk, “maroon!”

    Texas has vast influence on the out right silly class room books produced the last few decades due to it’s pin headed group mentality and it’s large student population.

    …….. As a [former] educator, I found Gail Collins’ Feb. 20 [Kansas City (Daily) Star] column, “Texas just says ‘no’ to sex and book-learning,” very telling.

    We have heard so often over the years that Texas students were improving on this or that state test.

    Now Barbara Bush is pointing out the state’s rankings of 47th in literacy, 49th in verbal SAT scores and 46th in math scores.

    Obviously, training children to answer multiple-choice test items correctly does not result in meaningful academic learning, literacy or mathematic reasoning ability.

    Yet teachers everywhere are obligated to “preach to the test” . All that’s improving are the profits of companies that produce test prep materials.

    Read more: http://blogs.kansascity.com/unfettered_letters/#ixzz1Flh7xBbU

    ……… and from the jerry springer corner of the boxing match:

    Jerry S. // Mar 4, 2011:

    “Mister Red [Phillips] they write history the way THEY choose to now. You would be SHOCKED to read a public school history book these days !”

    [Lake: Day leaves math pretty much alone, but REAL science takes a beating —— and yet keeps on ticking ……..]

  22. paulie

    Via dictionary.com

    Maroon

    –adjective
    1.
    dark brownish-red.
    2.
    Chiefly British .
    a.
    a loudly exploding firework consisting of a cardboard container filled with gunpowder.
    b.
    a similar firework used as a danger or warning signal, as by railway brakemen.

    Origin:
    1585–95; < French marron literally, chestnut, Middle French < Upper Italian (Tuscan marrone ), perhaps ultimately derivative of pre-Latin *marr- stone –verb (used with object) 1. to put ashore and abandon on a desolate island or coast by way of punishment or the like, as was done by buccaneers. 2. to place in an isolated and often dangerous position: The rising floodwaters marooned us on top of the house. 3. to abandon and leave without aid or resources: Having lost all his money, he was marooned in the strange city. –noun 4. ( often initial capital letter ) any of a group of blacks, descended from fugitive slaves of the 17th and 18th centuries, living in the West Indies and Guiana, especially in mountainous areas. 5. a person who is marooned: Robinson Crusoe lived for years as a maroon. Origin: 1660–70; < French mar ( r ) on, apparently < American Spanish cimarrón wild ( see cimarron); first used in reference to domestic animals that escaped into the woods, later to fugitive slaves

  23. Barretta

    Cody quirk A**hat why don’t you grow a pair. You talk like a little pussy. You need your arse kicked, btw look in the mirror you look a little “retarded!” (tell your mother I am so sorry for her birthing such a turd like you)

  24. Barretta

    paulie, this cody a**hat insults people he has no knowledge about. He is not a blogger he is a jerk, and a bully. He totally takes this blog down to the lowest denominator. He is trash. I responded because this turd needs a beating. He can’t rant his trash talk and think that its okay. Cody Quirk is an angry troll! A real A-hole and not an asset to your blog. Can him!!

  25. Barretta

    oh, from what I have read, he caused your blog to suffer monetary damage due to his stealing stories and not giving credit to the true author. Figures! This punk, has no class,. just a slimey snot on the face of humanity.

  26. paulie

    He totally takes this blog down to the lowest denominator.

    Takes two to tango. Anyone else throwing around grade school insults doesn’t mean you should participate. “He started it” stops working as an excuse around 5th grade or so.

    And the stuff you have been posting here about Chelene under multiple names, you impersonating other people here, etc., has been some of the most insulting and childish crap ever posted to IPR – which is saying a lot. I’ve very rarely had to remove comments, but yours were some of the very few I have had to remove.

    Can him!!

    Trent already canned him as a writer. As for comments, he has the same speech rights as you, and if anything has crossed the line less than you. At least Cody gives us legitimate news tips quite a few times, whereas your presence has been pretty much completely negative, as far as I know.

    oh, from what I have read, he caused your blog to suffer monetary damage due to his stealing stories and not giving credit to the true author.

    You heard wrong.

    IPR got shaken down by a copyright troll for the LVRJ. The owner paid off the extortionists even though the case was crap, because he didn’t want to take time to deal with it. Other people are fighting these slimeballs, and I hope they win. Credit was given, but they sued anyway. They did not ask us to remove the materials or even notify us, we heard about it from someone else.

    It happens to be articles Cody posted were the subject, but it could just as easily have been me. I don’t think he did anything he deserved to be be kicked out as a writer for, but it was the owner’s decision, not mine.

    More recently, the stuff that you have been posting about Nightingale got us threatened with another lawsuit, which is why the owner put IPR up for sale. I’m not sure whether this is why, but it may have also been why we got dropped by google news. So thanks a lot! You may yet kill IPR.

  27. Barretta

    Paulie I have no idea what you are talking about.
    I would never incriminate myself online or offline.
    Rest in peace my brother.

  28. Don Lake, FYI, not necessarily a unilateral endorcement

    coty, makes it up as he goes along.

    coty, when caught in a lie, merely repeats it (Tojo, Mussolini, Hitler)

    coty, when criticizing grammar, or grand ma, using inappropriate grammar

    coty, when criticizing spelling, often uses incorrect spelling, as ‘maroon’ for moron!

    And it is not just the current California AIP gang or IPR responders. Coty’s other blog mates, HS class mates, college class mates, and former California AIP colleagues …….

    Oh, may be just us (the current AIP gang) may be P – Daddy is the fairest thing on two legs and Coty’s California prep, Georgia college, and former pols are all wrong —— repeatedly!

  29. Don Lake, FYI, not necessarily a unilateral endorcement

    Coty’s political circle, including Aunt Nadine Henson, whom he muches off of [shelter, food and spending ‘walking around’ money] was informed of the LVRJ ‘trend’ months B4 dee lawyers contact.

    Coty’s cyber bullying [WELL established on various e – lists] is well known, including Salt Lake circles. His ‘innocence’ just more proof that p is subjective, unfair, unbalanced, and non objective.

  30. Don Lake, FYI, not necessarily a unilateral endorcement

    as it was a ‘silver state’ thang, I contacted activists from all Nevada alt parties. I do not remember if I mentioned it to the &%#$ Democans and the @&$%# Republicans. And at this point, I do not care.

    contact IPR? so I can be ignored again, more?

    Not objective, prove me wrong, prove me wrong, like ‘Cody resigned from IRP ……….’ and then you are unable to find where you stated that …………

  31. Barretta

    If Cody spoke to someone face to face the way he addresses people behind his “typewriter” he wouldn’t see the light of day. Btw, incriminating meaning I would never put in writing anything ANYTHING that would subject MYSELF OR an internet outlet (blog) to any lawsuits. Is that clear??

  32. Barretta

    and—– If this particular person that is scaring you with “lawsuit” talk – its only because said person, has zero money and is trying to “shake you down!” Don’t fall for it, and don’t cower!

  33. Barretta

    Someone tried to pass a fake $50.00 on me. When I called him on it he accused me of being prejudice. Go figure.

  34. paulie

    Btw, incriminating meaning I would never put in writing anything ANYTHING that would subject MYSELF OR an internet outlet (blog) to any lawsuits.

    There hasn’t been a lawsuit for defamation. It was threat. It was enough to cause the owner to put IPR up for sale, so far unsuccessfully. And yes, you did post the comments that led to that.

    Don’t fall for it, and don’t cower!

    It’s not my call. I’m not the owner. I don’t even talk to the owner. Trent said he told him not to back down, but the owner of IPR did not want to take any chances. So here we are and once again thanks a lot.

  35. Don Grundmann

    ” And the stuff you have been posting here about Chelene under multiple names, you impersonating other people here, etc., has been some of the most insulting and childish crap ever posted to IPR – which is saying a lot. I’ve very rarely had to remove comments, but yours were some of the very few I have had to remove.”

    Response – paulie – Thank you for dealing appropriately with this slug/rodent.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party

  36. Cody Quirk

    Cody quirk A**hat why don’t you grow a pair. You talk like a little pussy. You need your arse kicked, btw look in the mirror you look a little “retarded!” (tell your mother I am so sorry for her birthing such a turd like you)

    = Awww, do we need to go put on our big boy pants?

    Hahahaha!

  37. Cody Quirk

    “coty, makes it up as he goes along.
    coty, when caught in a lie, merely repeats it (Tojo, Mussolini, Hitler)
    coty, when criticizing grammar, or grand ma, using inappropriate grammar
    coty, when criticizing spelling, often uses incorrect spelling, as ‘maroon’ for moron!”

    = Don’t know who this Coty guy is. Maybe you need to get a life and stop wrapping toilet paper around your head, and especially show some respect for those that take care of a basket case like you.

  38. Cody Quirk

    Coty’s political circle, including Aunt Nadine Henson, whom he muches off of [shelter, food and spending ‘walking around’ money] was informed of the LVRJ ‘trend’ months B4 dee lawyers contact.

    = So this Coty fella actually knew about this at the time?
    Then again, if you knew this too, then maybe you helped get IPR set up in Righthaven’s scheme.

  39. Cody Quirk

    If Cody spoke to someone face to face the way he addresses people behind his “typewriter” he wouldn’t see the light of day. Btw, incriminating meaning I would never put in writing anything ANYTHING that would subject MYSELF OR an internet outlet (blog) to any lawsuits. Is that clear??

    = You hide behind fake names and websites claiming that candidates are having sex with pigs and other animals and are also supporting Shawna Forde- while I actually use my real name, and even to those that I truly hate, I never say or spread false, untrue, or seriously fucked up BS about them, I’m brutally honest and not afraid to be.

    And as funny & pathetic as your threats are, you are in fact making serious threats that could land you in jail if your real identity was found out and the authorities read your posts- so you’re the one in way more serious hot water with the law right now then I ever was with that entrapment lawsuit by Righthaven.

  40. paulie

    Cody, don’t forget I can see your IP address. Please don’t post as Baretta or anyone else posting here. I’m removing that comment.

  41. Cody Quirk

    That’s right you little turd bitch!

    And Paulie, shut the fuck up! You and Cody are turdfuckers that are goin to get a pounding by me!

    Fuck you and fuck IPR!!


    (Note from Paulie: Since this comment is being posted from the same IP address as Cody’s, I changed the name to Cody’s instead of removing it. Now cut the crap out. Everyone. Or you’ll all go to your rooms with no supper. -P)

  42. paulie

    claiming that candidates are having sex with pigs and other animals

    I have no evidence that this was the same person, it may have been someone else. All the other crap was bad enough. I can’t fault Chelene and Gary Odom for wanting more of it removed, but I didn’t sign up to be playground monitor here and neither did anyone else, so we only remove comments in the most extreme and egregious cases.

    I wish people would cut it out and act as grownups on their own, without being forced.

    We have had actual children post here and act a lot more mature and grown up than some of the adults.

  43. Cody Quirk

    How many times has Mark Seidenberg posted under fake names with his IP? How many times have others done that too?

    No comment about Don’s various aliases, I can usually tell my the spelling.

    Word of advice, if you and Trent want to stop this kind of posting and also not infringe upon the principle of free speech, then change the way people post here by making those that want to blog here do so via subscription and first agreeing to abide by whatever rules IPR would set up.

    I do support that kind of idea; it would save you guys, and us locals here a lot of grief.
    Otherwise, this will keep going on- whoever is spouting things about bestiality and making serious threats will not stop, no matter how many times you censor him… Or even her.

  44. paulie

    How many times has Mark Seidenberg posted under fake names with his IP?

    Not even once that I know of.

    How many times have others done that too?

    I don’t have a problem if you want to post with a fake name. Impersonating someone else is a different issue. If you impersonate someone else that posts here or is likely to post here, and I catch it, I will change or remove your comment.

    No comment about Don’s various aliases, I can usually tell my the spelling.

    Lake’s posts are always easy to recognize. Grundmann, as far as I know, also only posts as himself.

    Word of advice, if you and Trent want to stop this kind of posting and also not infringe upon the principle of free speech, then change the way people post here by making those that want to blog here do so via subscription and first agreeing to abide by whatever rules IPR would set up.

    Thanks for the advice. Take it up with Trent. I don’t make those decisions.

    In the meantime, no impersonating others here. I do get to say that, and I’ll enforce it too.

    Otherwise, this will keep going on- whoever is spouting things about bestiality and making serious threats will not stop, no matter how many times you censor him… Or even her.

    Censoring is something governments do.

    Post as yourself, or post under a screen name – but don’t impersonate anyone else here, or anyone that would plausibly be here.

    If I see any credible death threats, those will get taken down too.

  45. Barretta

    Glad you caught Cody, with his fake posts. So busted. Now you can piece it together and see cody’s writings are suspect. This guy created fake posts to pin on others. Cody LOSING!!

  46. paulie

    You’ve done the same thing before, so I wouldn’t crow about it if I was you.

    You all make the LP and Greens look sane and adult by comparison, which I must say is quite an accomplishment.

  47. Barretta

    NOPE, I never portrayed myself as anyone else. Cody was the one (we can now observe) that was using the “king of swing moniker” the guy is psycho. I may not use my real name but I never stooped to being twisted like Cody who used an alter ego, and projected his own sick thoughts. Then tried to blame others. This guy is mentally sick.

  48. paulie

    @67 Deny it all you want, I have caught you doing the exact same thing and taken comments down before.

    Dunno who “King of Swing” is – that person used an IP anonymizer.

  49. Barretta P diddy

    Paulie just a note: Cody quirk is posing as “barretta” so any posts by that name should be regarded as fake. If I post I will use this name or another. Being That Cody Quirk is experiencing a “meltdown” due to his being caught as a psuchotic blogger, I am just informing you. Thank you. (Cody Quirk seek help dude)

  50. Don Lake, FYI, not necessarily a unilateral endorcement

    Hey, thanks to Aunt Nadine Hansen, at least he’ll have a place to stay!

    Interesting that the more religious, the more dishonest. Until the 1990s Reverend Billy Graham was still blaming the Jews for killing Christ. Even with a doctorate it did not dawn on Billy that Jesus was NOT born in the Roman Year and that in 5000 years Hebrews did not (have not) crucify any one (they deemed it barbaric), but in 500 years the Romans ……..

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