From Kent Mesplay, a candidate for the Green Party presidential nomination:
We humans must immediately do everything we can to stabilize the climate and that requires we cut way, way back on our carbon emissions. Immediately! And America must turn its foot-dragging attitude around and instead become a leader in fighting Global Climate Change.
Dr. Kent P. Mesplay recognizes the number one issue facing humanity and planet Earth today is Global Climate Change. Let’s set aside the question about how much of Global Climate Change is human caused and get onto fixing it.
Note: The term “Global Climate Change” recognizes that what is happening is much more complex than the obsolete term “Global Warming” would imply. Some areas of the world are much hotter than at any time before in recorded history and some places are actually colder! Everywhere the planet’s climate patterns are showing disruption.
Documents: 
National Association of Clean Air Agencies Primer on Climate Change Science, July 2011
FoDS,
Please don’t post long lists of quotes, especially without specific source citations. It is entirely possible that some of the quotes may be misatributed. The way you are posting them there is no way to check.
FRAUD FLOWS…
The only risk to? the biosphere we live in is vermin like David Rockefeller, these Nazis need to find another planet to live on.
-infamos on youtube
“Hundreds of billion dollars have been wasted with the attempt of imposing a Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) theory that is not supported by physical world evidences…AGW has been forcefully imposed by means of a barrage of scare stories and indoctrination that begins in the elementary school textbooks.” — Brazilian Geologist Geraldo Luís Lino, who authored the 2009 book “The Global Warming Fraud: How a Natural Phenomenon Was Converted into a False World Emergency.”
“… when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people … will hate the New World Order and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people.” – H. G. Wells
“The threat of environmental crisis is the ‘international disaster key’ to unlock the New World Order.” – Mikhail Gorbachev
“We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public imagination… So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts… Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.” – Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, lead author of many UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reports
“Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.” – Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC
“It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.” – Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace
“We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.” – Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation
“No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.” – Christine Stewart, fmr Canadian Minister of the Environment
“The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.” – emeritus professor Daniel Botkin
“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” – Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme
“Complex technology of any sort is an assault on human dignity. It would be little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy, because of what we might do with it.” – Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute
“Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.” – Prof Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University
“Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.” – David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club
They learn the art of lying to change policy and INCREASE “their” taxpayer funded grant money$ .
“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” – Adolph Hitler
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge — even to ourselves — that we’ve been so credulous. (So the old bamboozles tend to persist as the new bamboozles rise.)” – Carl Sagan
“The ruling class has the schools and press under its thumb. This enables it to sway the emotions of the masses.” – Albert Einstein
Wake up friends, when they come to your door for non-compliance it will be TOO LATE …
Who’s the greatest polluter of all? The oil companies? The chemical companies? The nuclear power plants? If you guessed “none of the above,” you’d be correct. Our government, at the federal, state, and local levels, is the single greatest polluter in the land. In addition, our government doesn’t even clean up its own garbage! In 1988, for example, the EPA demanded that the Departments of Energy and Defense clean up 17 of their weapons plants which were leaking radioactive and toxic chemicals — enough contamination to cost $100 billion in clean-up costs over 50 years! The EPA was simply ignored. No bureaucrats went to jail or were sued for damages. Government departments have sovereign immunity. – http://www.lp.org/
The environment would benefit immensely from the elimination of sovereign immunity coupled with the privatization of “land and beast.” The third and final step in the libertarian program to save the environment is the use of restitution both as a deterrent and a restorative. – http://www.lp.org/
For more information, or to arrange an interview, call LP Executive Director Wes Benedict at 202-333-0008 ext. 222
Why believe the environmentalists?: http://partialobserver.com/article.cfm?id=3523
Cooking the Figures on Climate Change: http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2007-03-04-1.html
Environmentalists Pick Up Where Communists Left Off: http://townhall.com/columnists/charleskrauthammer/2008/05/31/environmentalists_pick_up_where_communists_left_off
The Global Warming Lie: http://sunset2008.blogspot.com/2007/03/global-warming-in-perspective.html
Workers say ground under Fukushima plant is cracking and radioactive steam is coming up — Melted core may be moving out of building – http://enenews.com/very-serious-and-alarming-development-workers-say-ground-under-fukushima-plant-is-cracking-and-radioactive-steam-is-coming-through-melted-cores-may-be-moving-out-of-buildings-video
It’s IMPORTANT ALL our lives may depend on this !
More Than 1000 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims – Challenge UN IPCC & Gore: http://www.climatedepot.com/a/9035/SPECIAL-REPORT-More-Than-1000-International-Scientists-Dissent-Over-ManMade-Global-Warming-Claims–Challenge-UN-IPCC–Gore
Carbon Wow from New World Order Solutions – Wakeup.tv – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RDMXe_BY9Y&feature=player_embedded
Please see Ten MYTHS of global warming: http://www.globalwarminghysteria.com/ten-myths-of-global-warming/
I agree with what all you’re saying, Paulie. I’ll add that policies aimed at restricting CO2 emissions create real problems. CO2 is a nonpollutant and beneficial gas. Science has established no causal link between manmade CO2 emissions and climate change.
Melty:
Drugs, terrorism, pollution, poverty…these are all real problems. Yes, some people propose big government solutions to them, which I believe fail to solve those problems and in many cases make them worse.
Saying that the problem does not exist, or is not really a problem, does us no good.
In this case, as rloy has already pointed out, there are a lot of government subsidies to polluters.
The military is often used to subsidize the petroleum economy. We are embroiled in two costly wars which are at least partly about oil.
The government itself is the biggest polluter around, particularly classified military uses that we don’t fully know the full measure of.
Government shields corporate polluters from liability.
It also gives them direct corporate welfare payments, and many in kind contributions.
Finally, the entire mess of taxes and regulations serves to discourage market innovation, including new forms of energy and emerging green technologies, since large established companies are far more able to comply with the tax and regulatory burden than upstart competition….particularly when they can write themselves custom tax and regulatory breaks through lobbying, create a revolving door for lobbyists, regulators and legislators, and pay them off when all else fails.
When some are “too big to fail” it means others are too small to succeed.
Then there are the many ways in which the cannabis plant can be used to create more environmentally friendly fuel, paper, clothing, and thousands of industrial uses…but due to irrational anti-marijuana hysteria it is banned, even though industrial hemp can’t get anyone high.
If we get big government out of the way, I believe we will find better solutions to our environmental problems.
As for the specifics of how environmental feedback loops are believed to work with CO2…you can find that information readily, so I won’t get into that.
Let me just put it this way: regardless of whether you agree with the prevailing scientific theory on what is happening with CO2 in the atmosphere, I believe the solution in terms of government policy is the same – and it is definitely not more big government.
The other thing..
when you hear this “government do something quick” stuff, it’s best to keep a healthy skepticism obout yourself. As many have observered, This radical islamic terror fear is to the right as anthropogenic climate change is to the left.
@3 paulie
I understand what you’re saying about positive feedback loops and measurability of deviation from the mean, but I don’t think you’ve really addressed the keypoint – causation.
Since about two years ago, it’s been well-established that there was a global warming trend from the midseventies to 1998. Over those years manmade CO2 emissions as the dominant cause for this warming trend became a popular theory. Then it stopped getting warmer, the popular term for anthropogenic global warming switched from “global warming” to “climate change” and from there, whatever happened, rain or drought, no snow or snow, changeability or constance, was attributed to manmade CO2.
Climatology has advanced so much since the seventies as to take Earth’s temperature. For example, the first adequate satellite imaging of Arctic ice – around 1978. The first reliable means of monitoring the world’s ocean temperatures – 2006. As for the why and how of it, the causes of recent climate change with its multidecadal cycles, that’s much harder for science to answer than just “getting warmer?” and other merely quantative questions. The experts are far from connecting the dots. It’s still very speculative.
The theory for manmade CO2 as a dominant cause of any kind of modern day global climate change has never been strong. The cooling trend over the last few years and attendant mild solar activity weaken the anthropogenic theory further. Multidecadal climate cycles over the last few centuries jibe well with variations of solar intensity. That climate curve just does not fit the curve for manmade CO2 emission.
Before implementing a policy on CO2 emissions, causation should be well-established, and it’s certainly is not.
It baffles me that CO2 is singled out as an envoirnmental problem. Carbon dioxide is to plants as oxygen is to animals. What could be more green than CO2?
The Constitution Party is supposedly for “small government.” I wonder how Mr. Grundmann feels about the fact that fossil fuel subsidies far surpass clean energy subsidies?
http://www.grist.org/article/2009-09-22-fossil-fuel-subsidies-dwarf-clean-energy-subsidies-obama-wants
Point for rloy on volcanoes.
A comment from the Grist thread:
“I have never heard a skeptic making that ridiculous claim. It seems you are putting up a straw man in order to be able to kick it. The skeptics are not that dumb.”
O Rly?
“Just ONE volcano going off blows out 20 years of so-called carbon savings by the nitwit reduction programs.”
LOL, more right-wing non-science. Debunked here:
http://www.grist.org/article/volcanoes-emit-more-co2-than-humans
Identifying a problem and proposing a solution are two different things. Improving energy efficiency and finding more environmentally friendly technologies can be good for the economy as well as the environment.
You have a reason to question his academic credentials?
I believe I addressed the substance of the remainder above in reply to Melty.
The ” Global Warming ” mania, under whatever new marketing/Social Engineering term is used, is simply yet another, although far more elaborate, attempt of the Plantation Masters of the nation to justify shutting down the economic activity of our nation as they drive everyone into poverty. The Green Party and ” Dr. ” Mesplay are simply lackeys of the Powers That Be ( PTB ) working to bring economic devastation to our nation through the ludicrous, nitiwt, and idiotic idea that so-called carbon emissions are warming the earth. Just ONE volcano going off blows out 20 years of so-called carbon savings by the nitwit reduction programs. Why doesn’t the Green Party start a jobs program to cork volcanoes and hence stop their carbon emissions? Better yet why doesn’t ” Dr.” Mesplay throw himself into a volcano as a sacrifice to the Volcano God so that they will no longer erupt? That has more of a chance of ” saving the earth ” than any other of the countless nitwit, and endless, anti-humanity and anti-jobs plans/ideas of the Green Party.
Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
Actually, I was advocating for it back in the 90s, although I would say global climate destabilization would be even more accurate – that is, wilder swings from the average, in either direction. There are a lot of things in the climate that overcompensate for other things.
The degree of deviation from the mean is a measurable phenomenon.
Relatively small changes can lead to chain reactions causing major impacts – one thing setting of another, which in turn sets off another etc. It’s like putting monkeys on speed at the controls of a nuclear power plant. Sure, the monkeys are small compared to the big plant, but if they hit the wrong button, it could mean big trouble. Since they have no idea what they may be hitting, well…
How’s this for wallowing in science:
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/09/11-1
Say goodbye to coral reefs (and soon enough, the entire ocean). It’s more important that we have NASCAR races, fashion shows, boob jobs, American Idol.
“Let’s set aside the question about how much of Global Climate Change is human caused and get onto fixing it.”
It’s clear that anthropogenic carbon dioxide emmissions are not the dominant cause of recent climate change. It’s at most a minor factor and at least negligible. More studies to determine where in that range it is would be valuable. Thus far evidence suggests that human land use exerts greater influence on climate than CO2. There’s also evidence of a global cooling trend over the last four years.
“The term “Global Climate Change” recognizes that what is happening is much more complex than the obsolete term “Global Warming” would imply.”
This switch in terminology became necessary when recent climate change stopped trending warmer. Now with the term “climate change” implying global warming due to human CO2 emmissions, no matter what climatic developments arise, you can attribute it to your car exhaust. This makes the theory unfalsifiable.
Let’s not base policy on bad science. Let’s not overestimate human ability to “fix” or even influence the entire planet. Let’s not indulge in such anthropocentric thinking. People are way to impressed with people. Consider how small we are. The whole planet would fit in a sunspot. Our star, the Sun dominates our world. We just live here because of our star. Consider how little people know. Don’t wallow in self-enthrallment. Do science.