Wyllie Campaign Embarks On a State-Wide Craft Brewery Tour

1. Mark Axinn August 11, 2014

   Go Adrian!
2. Alexander Snitker August 11, 2014

   “Wyllie is not a sane choice. He had the LPF’s only minority candidate de-endorsed in 2012 and refused to refund the Party Assessment Fee (for the first time in the LPF’s history btw) to that candidate to punish him for saying that George Zimmerman should be arrested for shooting Trayvon Martin (when the incident happened).”

   That was a decision that was voted on and made by the EC (on a call that I actually spoke in favor of Franklin getting the fee back before I was on the EC).

   Adrain was actually against the motion but as the chair he had no vote on the matter.

   The EC made the call and Adrian had to defend the LPF and the wishes of the EC.

   Adrian did the right thing as the chair and respected the vote made by the EC. That is what a leader does.

   If you are going to attack Adrian can you please at least tell the truth. Lying really makes you look Republican.

   And since we are talking about the past how about you tell everyone why you actively supported Newt Gingrich for President in 2012.

   One other note here is that at the next convention the decision was made by the delegates to refund the full amount from now on for any candidate who runs as a Libertarian.

   Adrian Wyllie wrote the motion.

   “That candidate had to sue in order to get the money, and he won in court.”

   It was a draw. He did not get the full amount back and the only reason for that was because the by laws were not clear. Again you should really try to tell the truth. Your actions remind me of a Republican (it does make sense due to your support of Newt)

   “All because that Wyllie (and a few others of influence) disagreed with the candidate’s position.”

   More lies but at this point most people on this thread already see the truth. Those you attack were the ones on the call defending Franklin no matter how much they despised Franklin. That is principle. This is something you would know nothing about.

   “What sane man or group would punish a candidate for difference of opinion? It’s authoritarian and smacks of everything the LP should be fighting against.”

   Again, Adrian had no vote and respected the vote made by the LPF EC. He did what a leader should do.

   You are continuing to look like a bitter person who takes any opportunity to attack a Libertarian. I think you would feel much more comfortable in the GOP.

   Alexander Snitker
   Vice Chairman
   Libertarian Party of Florida
3. Joe Wendt August 10, 2014

   Wyllie is not a sane choice. He had the LPF’s only minority candidate de-endorsed in 2012 and refused to refund the Party Assessment Fee (for the first time in the LPF’s history btw) to that candidate to punish him for saying that George Zimmerman should be arrested for shooting Trayvon Martin (when the incident happened). That candidate had to sue in order to get the money, and he won in court. All because that Wyllie (and a few others of influence) disagreed with the candidate’s position. What sane man or group would punish a candidate for difference of opinion? It’s authoritarian and smacks of everything the LP should be fighting against.
4. OrlandoChris August 10, 2014

   Adrian Wyllie is the only sane choice. It’s hard to understand why anyone would want scott or crist again. Both failed miserably. Adrian deserves my vote (and yours too) simply because he is honest, along with many, many other good reasons. I believe all that is needed is name recognition and for people to know there is another choice beside the same old corrupt candidates. Support Adrian by donating to his campaign and also the super brochure program, which I think is very powerful. Visit his website today: http://www.WyllieForGovernor.com
   There is also a spanish version of his website: VotaPorWyllie.com
5. paulie July 31, 2014

   Rick,

   That sounds pretty good to me. Not perfect but certainly taking things in the right direction and something that would sound good to the average person.
6. Rick Adams July 31, 2014

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOwQyNoVd8w
7. Andy July 31, 2014

   ” he’s go ”

   Should read, “he’s got…”
8. paulie July 30, 2014

   Agreed with Andy.
9. Andy July 30, 2014

   Adrian Wyllie also has a lot of balls. I love what he’s doing protesting the Drivers License and the Real ID Act.
10. Andy July 30, 2014

    “paulie
    July 30, 2014 at 11:32 pm
    I’ve had a few people (mainly John Wayne Smith, Vicki Kirkland, Mike Kane and Joe Wendt) tell me Adrian is not libertarian, but when I watch or read what he actually says and does it seems libertarian to me, and he is running a very active campaign compared to a lot of other LP candidates.”

    I’ve never met Adrian Wyllie, and I don’t know much about him beyond what I’ve seen online, but I will say this, I’ve been in the LP since 1996, and I’ve seen a lot of candidates over the years, and from what I’ve seen, Adrian Wyllie is an above average candidate. He’s a good communicator, he is actively campaigning around the state, he’s been able to get media coverage, he’s go some cool videos online, and he appears to be pretty libertarian to me.
11. paulie July 30, 2014

    I’ve had a few people (mainly John Wayne Smith, Vicki Kirkland, Mike Kane and Joe Wendt) tell me Adrian is not libertarian, but when I watch or read what he actually says and does it seems libertarian to me, and he is running a very active campaign compared to a lot of other LP candidates. It seems to be a personal grudge more than anything else and you can’t bring up anything about hi or his allies within the LPF without hearing a lot of negativity from the same few folks.
12. Andy July 30, 2014

    What exactly is wrong with Adrian Wyllie? I’ve never met him, but I’ve watched several of his videos on the net and I like what I see. I also like the fact that he’s putting a real effort into this campaign.
13. paulie July 30, 2014

    Isn’t he supposed to travel the state, shake hands, and talk to people?

    Yes he is. Apparently some people will criticize something, anything, no matter what, just because they don’t like the guy. If he sat on his ass and did not go anywhere they would criticize that. If he goes a lot of places they will criticize where he goes. If he combs his hair back they will criticize him for not combing it forward, and if he combs it forward they will say he should leave it uncombed. You get the idea.
14. paulie July 30, 2014

    My personal policy is to withhold support from Libertarian candidates with whom I don’t agree. If a candidate with whom I don’t agree gets a nomination, I don’t send him/her money. I don’t waste effort fighting against him/her post-nomination. I’d rather spend my time and money supporting a Libertarian candidate who I do agree with.

    Wise policy that more of us should adopt.
15. paulie July 30, 2014

    I disagree. It is not as though Libertarian Party candidates regularly get invited to large speaking engagement, or lots of mass media appearances. Anywhere there is a crowd that will listen to a Libertarian Party candidate is generally a good thing. A candidate doing a speaking tour at brew pubs is an unique concept, and it actually kind of reminds me of the build up to the American Revolution, where American revolutionaries met at pubs to discuss their revolutionary ideas.

    Agreed with Andy, disagreed with Joe.
16. paulie July 30, 2014

    Regardless of the legal climate around alcohol, this is a campaign for Governor of FL. Touring around the state is what candidates for statewide office do.

    Exactly!
17. paulie July 30, 2014

    I’m not saying some of the laws are not ridiculous, but traveling the state to hipster pubs is still and idiotic idea.

    You are grasping at straws due to a personal grudge.
18. Matt Cholko July 30, 2014

    It makes no difference to me whether he tours craft breweries, plumbing parts distributors, high-end seafood restaurants, or anywhere else. The point is, he’s a candidate for governor. Isn’t he supposed to travel the state, shake hands, and talk to people?
19. Nicholas Sarwark July 30, 2014

    My personal policy is to withhold support from Libertarian candidates with whom I don’t agree. If a candidate with whom I don’t agree gets a nomination, I don’t send him/her money. I don’t waste effort fighting against him/her post-nomination. I’d rather spend my time and money supporting a Libertarian candidate who I do agree with.
20. Andy July 30, 2014

    “Joe Wendt
    July 30, 2014 at 6:39 pm
    I’m not saying some of the laws are not ridiculous, but traveling the state to hipster pubs is still and idiotic idea.”

    I disagree. It is not as though Libertarian Party candidates regularly get invited to large speaking engagement, or lots of mass media appearances. Anywhere there is a crowd that will listen to a Libertarian Party candidate is generally a good thing. A candidate doing a speaking tour at brew pubs is an unique concept, and it actually kind of reminds me of the build up to the American Revolution, where American revolutionaries met at pubs to discuss their revolutionary ideas.
21. paulie July 30, 2014

    It’s a little late to be campaigning on or attempt to benefit from this issue.

    I don’t believe it is.

    Also, it is a great place to meet a couple of demographics we should be reaching, including small business owners as well as people who are independent minded and like alternatives in beer (so are relatively more likely to like them in politics as well, all things being equal).
22. paulie July 30, 2014

    The threat from a Bill that did not become Law is not a threat,

    Just because it has gone away for the moment does not mean the threat has gone away forever. The same big money interests will most likely try again.
23. Matt Cholko July 30, 2014

    Regardless of the legal climate around alcohol, this is a campaign for Governor of FL. Touring around the state is what candidates for statewide office do.
24. Joe Wendt July 30, 2014

    I’m not saying some of the laws are not ridiculous, but traveling the state to hipster pubs is still and idiotic idea. There is this wonderful piece from a Blogger in Wyllie’s neck of the woods that truly expresses why this is a ridiculous pub crawl that really won’t help the party. Granted, I do disagree with the author’s assertion that the GOP is the “less-government” party, I do agree with his criticism of this pub crawl:

    http://www.saintpetersblog.com/archives/154422?fb_action_ids=10204426845854030&fb_action_types=og.comments&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5B685611804850869%5D&action_type_map=%5B%22og.comments%22%5D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D
25. DSZ July 30, 2014

    Regardless, Joe, Florida has a mish mash of ridiculous alcohol laws anyway. True bars are allowed (unlike many states), yet normal growlers are not allowed. Alcohol in FL cannot be sold in any containers larger than 32 ounces…unless they’re a gallon. So there’s half and double sized growlers but nothing in between…basically the state wants you to either get a little buzzed or pass out. I guess they’d don’t do anything halfway, except for elections. I had an out of state growler filled in FL once but the guy pouring it immediately discovered it was illegal to do so, so I got charged the gallon price :/
26. Joe Wendt July 30, 2014

    The threat from a Bill that did not become Law is not a threat, especially since this “threat” died in the legislature. Now, if this tour had happened during the same time as this Bill was still in the legislature, I could see value. Now, it’s a few months after the Bill died in the (GOP controlled btw) State House. It’s a little late to be campaigning on or attempt to benefit from this issue.
27. Andy July 30, 2014

    I like Adrian Wyllie from everything I’ve seen from him so far. He seems like a really good candidate.
28. George Whitfield July 29, 2014

    Adrian Wyllie is running a superb campaign for Governor of Florida. Here is recent TV news coverage: http://www.mysuncoast.com/news/local/libertarian-party-could-throw-wrench-into-florida-governor-s-race/article_ef182d5a-1340-11e4-ad2c-0017a43b2370.html The hundreds of dedicated Libertarians in Florida are helping him receive favorable attention. I will be voting for him in November.
29. paulie July 29, 2014

    So, Adrian Wyllie has essentially turned a gubernatorial campaign into a giant Pub Crawl.

    He’s reaching out to a growing small business industry that is facing legal threats from an unholy alliance of big government and big business, and you are reaching hard for a way to trivialize or denigrate this worthy effort because of your personality/factional spat.
30. Darcy G Richardson July 29, 2014

    I’d take a tipsy Wyllie over a sober Scott any day.
31. Joe Wendt July 29, 2014

    So, Adrian Wyllie has essentially turned a gubernatorial campaign into a giant Pub Crawl. Why does anyone take him seriously.
32. paulie July 29, 2014

    Great idea! Wish I was on the tour.

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