Andy Craig: Map of Libertarian Party Straw Poll Winners

Thanks to Andy Craig for providing this info-graphic.

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30 thoughts on “Andy Craig: Map of Libertarian Party Straw Poll Winners

  1. Cody Quirk

    “Looking at Europe we see the authoritarian right is rising again there as well.”

    This new right that’s on the rise in Europe is both Populist & Nationalist in the original sense of such definitions while some aspects of it might have authoritarian leanings- though it is not authoritarian per se, and it especially is not fascist by the majority of the characteristics that define the word.
    For one, fascists believe in censorship and using violence against their enemies and yet it is the European establishment, mainstream political parties, and the radical Left that are using both to try to temper or stop the rise of these various nationalist/populist parties that are growing in those countries via popularity and in votes. But of course such efforts are in vain.

    The emerging political climate in Europe is not necessarily a bad thing however; many of these anti-establishment parties are sincere in their defense of their country’s democratic institutions and the current social and cultural climate of secularism, certain individual liberties, and social acceptance of alternative lifestyles and trends.
    Plus, as being a believer in organic politics and how the political-social norms and standards vary from region/country-to-country; I feel that some of those political parties are the moral comparison to the Libertarian Party in our country, and are the best solution right now for many of these European nations that are facing the current challenges with the refugee crises, government corruption, and Islamic terrorism -until such nations and their societies become ready at a later date to adopt and embrace a free Libertarian society… Which unfortunately is generations, or perhaps a century away from becoming socially and politically accepted within such nations and regions of Europe, and elsewhere.

    Fortunately for the United States however, I believe mainstream society here is getting very close to embracing the philosophy and ideology of Libertarianism on a mass scale; it will happen here in due time.

  2. Cody Quirk

    Aside from the previous comment that I accidentally posted here- judging by the map above, I think Johnson is very likely on his way to winning the LP nomination.

    Yes, he may not be a perfect candidate, yet there is no other LP presidential candidate this year with the background, experience, and professional credibility that could grab media attention like Gary Johnson can, and I highly believe that in a Hillary-Clinton match up, he will get a lot more votes then he did in 2012.

  3. Freudian slip

    Cody Einstein, Ph.D: “I think Johnson is very likely on his way to winning the LP nomination.”

    How insightful!

  4. Mark M. Herd

    Andy Craig is a Gary Johnson spinster who clearly has no problem misleading the public. Gary DID NOT WIN in CA and Andy knows this. I was at the convention so please take your bs spin propaganda Johnson garbage down and flush it. This post is nothing but a big fat lie, seriously unless you want to lie, pull it down.

  5. Cody Quirk

    So what were the ‘real’ straw poll results and who won it, Mark?

  6. Stewart Flood

    If you are going by GOP/Trump rules, yes he won. Trump’s claims of massive victories have frequently been because he won by more than five points. That didn’t mean he necessarily got all the delegates.

    In this case, while there are a few polls where Johnson won with more than 50% of the votes, it — once again — does not “win” all the delegates.

    I agree. This is certainly spin intended to get the competition’s supporters discouraged enough to not bother spending money to go to Orlando. But even with what we do know, it is still possible that Johnson has more than 50% on the first round. But if he has exactly 50% — or less than that — then we go to the classic LP “brokered convention” with round after round after round…

    The only significant convention left is South Carolina’s (of course!), which is on Saturday. We have TWO (2) fusion candidates running, which while allowed under state law has never happened before! One filed with us and the Constitution Party, the other is in a four way race for an open seat in a Republican Primary. If he gets our nomination he still has to win their primary, but he’d then be on the ballot in both columns. The winner of that primary should be able to beat the Democrat that is also running.

    And yes, based on conversations with him I am confident that he’s a libertarian hiding in republican clothing. I’m not so sure about the other candidate, but others in the party say he’s ok.

  7. Smart Alex

    Mark Herd never knows what he’s talking about. He can’t even count to 4 on one meme that he made. He also thinks a write-in vote is called a “placeholder”.

    Most people in CA believes he’s here to deliberately harm our party. Just ignore him. Feeding the trolls is a bad thing to do.

  8. Stewart Flood

    How did Vermin Supreme get so many votes? And is he going to be in Orlando in someone’s delegation? This is getting stranger and stranger…

  9. Andy Craig

    If SC has the potential to elect a fusion state legislator, that’s exciting. L-only is preferable of course, but I”ll still take fusion candidates. I didn’t know SC was one of the few states that allow fusion.

    I would worry though, that have the LP endorsement does not make it more likely he’ll win the GOP primary.

    re: a couple of debates missed on the map, thanks. I’ll correct/update it on the next version. I’ve been doing this just to keep track of them myself, putting it out there for corrections as I go. When I started, I thought I’d find at least one that had been won by either J-Mac or Petersen, but since nobody piped up with an example of one I’m pretty sure that if I’ve missed any, it’s probably just one or two more Johnson wins.

  10. Stewart Flood

    State election law actually is what covers it. You can file with multiple parties, but you must win ALL of the nominations you seek to remain on the ballot. This is a libertarian (he’s been to local events), who filed as a republican to get in their primary. He’s hoping that by getting our nomination as well he will be able to get some libertarians to cross-over and vote for him in the June republican primary.

    Might work.

    Either way, if he wins the GOP primary he will win in November, so he did not “need” to file with us but he “wants” to file with us. If he can get the downtown Charlestonians (the bluest of the blue bloods) and the rest of his district to vote for the gay manager of the gay strip joint, he’ll win. (no pun intended, that’s pretty much his words)

    I think he’s up against tough odds to start on this, since downtowners don’t often vote for anyone except bible thumping right wingers, and the other areas of town may not consider a strip joint to be a “socially” acceptable job, but who knows? Anyway, I am going to vote to give him our nomination. He’s got guts.

    If he gets our nomination and fails to get the republican’s, he won’t be on the ballot in November. But if he does…I think we’ll have our first state house seat!

  11. Jill Pyeatt

    Stewart, Vermin Supreme came out to Southern CA for a fundraiser recently, and made quite a few fans at the event. I didn’t happen to go and I haven’t met Mr. Supreme, but all reports was that he’s great fun, and highly intelligent.

    The numbers reported in the link for the straw poll in CA were correct. In fact, I was one of three people who counted them. Gary Johnson had more than twice as many votes as John McAfee.

  12. Andy

    Question: What is Andy Craig’s job as a paid contractor for Gray Johnson 2016?

    I am not criticizing Mr. Craig for working as a paid contractor for Gary Johnson 2016, but rather I am just wondering what it is that he has been hired to do.

  13. Stewart Flood

    I have heard that he’s an interesting character. The news coverage of him a while back was interesting.

    I wasn’t questioning the results, just saying that winning isn’t always winning. From my count, he got 19 out of 48 votes cast. That’s less than 40% — hardly a win in my book.

    We’ll see. I’ve been watching the debates over again and the more I watch the less I like how Governor Johnson has presented himself. The “religion” junk about the Nazi wedding is really off the wall. I’m not trying to start a discussion of it again. No matter what your position on it, I think that everyone can agree that it is not a religious issue. He did not get the question and he clearly wasn’t focused enough to understand.

    I’m worried about putting him in debates against Clinton and Trump (if we got to debates!). Petersen or McAfee or even Perry would be able to stand their ground much better.

  14. Cody Quirk

    “In this case, while there are a few polls where Johnson won with more than 50% of the votes, it — once again — does not “win” all the delegates.”

    Doesn’t matter if he won by a majority or a plurality- he still won them and none of his rivals seem to be catching up at all to him; he will win the nomination, regardless of how petty and desperate his detractors become.

  15. Freudian slip

    I see Space Cadet Captain Coty Banks Quirk feels the Johnson. Just like Dave Terry.

  16. Stewart Flood

    Detractors? No, some of us are just expressing what we believe are valid concerns.

    If he is the nominee I will do my job as state party chairman and assist the campaign wherever possible. I won’t leave the party — as one candidate for our nomination has stated he’ll do.

    But I have valid concerns, and I’m not the only one who has them. And without input from me or any attempt to influence them, I am seeing supporters of his that I know drop off and change their support to other candidates.

    This isn’t a joke. His support is dropping. Sound bites from his debates are his own worst enemy right now. Things can change a lot in three weeks.

    This may be a wide open convention.

  17. Mark Axinn

    New York results with approx. 60 people voting (we had over 100 people there but not everyone voted in the straw poll):

    Gary Johnson 56%
    Austin Petersen 18%
    John McAfee 15%
    Darryl Perry 8%
    Others and NOTA 3%

  18. SJM845

    Andy what is your source for results from KY, NM and TN? I haven’t seen straw poll results from those conventions on IPR or on the state parties’ sites.

  19. Jill Pyeatt

    Mark, the New York convention deserves its own article. I probably can’t get to it tonight, but I’ll try to tomorrow evening.

    Some of the pictures I’ve seen of the event look great!

  20. Stewart Flood

    Someone sent me a link to the debate they had. Pretty good. They just had the “final four” on the stage.

    And Johnson only winning by 56% in a state he should have swept is interesting.

  21. Andy

    I will not be surprised if Johnson takes it in Orlando. My guess is that a lot of delegates are not well informed about the problems with Johnson and his campaign, and they will just vote for him based on his credentials and election result from 2012.

  22. langa

    I will not be surprised if Johnson takes it in Orlando. My guess is that a lot of delegates are not well informed about the problems with Johnson and his campaign, and they will just vote for him based on his credentials and election result from 2012.

    Sadly, I expect that a lot of them will vote for him because of his non-libertarian stands, especially his position on bakery slavery. It seems a lot of “libertarians” these days care a lot more about the stupid culture war than about freedom.

  23. Thomas Knapp

    “I will not be surprised if Johnson takes it in Orlando. My guess is that a lot of delegates are not well informed about the problems with Johnson and his campaign, and they will just vote for him based on his credentials and election result from 2012.”

    That guess is true, but not irreversible.

    One of the nice things about Libertarian National Conventions is that things can change AT THE CONVENTION ITSELF. A candidate might prove particularly engaging with delegates who hadn’t considered him or her; another candidate might fall down badly in the live debate; etc.

    I do not think that Johnson will be the nominee. One of the problems of being the prior nominee and presumed front-runner is that you likely arrive at the national convention with the most support you will have at that convention. You have nowhere to go but down. I don’t think that Johnson will have 50% on the first ballot. And if he doesn’t, he will lose votes, while other candidates gain votes, on subsequent ballots.

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