Ron Nielson was quoted in an article by Lee Benson of the Salt Lake City, Utah based Deseret News titled “They’re telling us there’s a chance: Could Utah help land Libertarian in White House?” published yesterday, saying:
“it is completely conceivable that a third-party candidate could prevent anyone from winning this election and forcing it to the House, and it’s very conceivable that he could be the candidate that wins in the House. The two (major party campaigns) are so at odds with each other, I mean anyone can see it that it is going to be virtually impossible for either one to vote for the other candidate if it gets into the House. . . . You’ve got two divisive, disliked candidates with gigantic negatives winning their party’s nominations. I would bet Johnson doesn’t have 3 percent negative. People will be looking for a compromise candidate. He’s it. We want people to understand — this could actually happen.”
The entire article can be read HERE.
(The Salt Lake Tribune also ran an article about Gary Johnson’s campaign yesterday, this one titled, “Libertarian Gary Johnson’s comments on religious freedom and Mormons may hurt in Utah” with the photo caption “Libertarian candidate issues apology for his “imprecise” reference to Mormon history.” That article can be read HERE.)
When no candidate has a majority in the US Electoral College, then under the 12th Amendment to the US Constitution “the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote.”
An analysis of the makeup of the US House delegations from BALLOTPEDIA indicates that 33 states have Republican majorities among their Representatives, 14 have Democratic majorities, and 3 are tied (see below) — a seeming clear majority for the Republican candidate should a Third Party candidate win enough electoral college votes that neither of the old parties’ candidates have a majority in the electoral college, and the election for President of the United States actually go to the US House.
The following states have Democratic majorities in the US House: Washington, Oregon,
California, New Mexico, Minnesota, Illinois, Hawaii, New York, Rhode Island, Maryland,
Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Delaware.
The following have Republican majorities: Idaho, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, Texas , Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Wisconsin, Alaska, Kentucky, Tennessee, Mississippi, Michigan, Indiana, Alabama, Florida, Ohio, Georgia, West Virginia, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Pennsylvania,
These states have equal numbers of Republican and Democratic Representatives in their delegations to the US House: New Jersey (6 each), New Hampshire (1 each) and Maine (1 each).
RC:” But then couldn’t the Ds do the same?” Oh, absolutely, but the important point is that there will be three candidates before the house, and none of them will be a Libertarian.
Dave @ August 3, 2016 at 01:45
“The blog has since apparently been lost to history”
Have you tried archive.org?
If you know the URL, it may be archived there. Just found the following by searching “badnarik”
https://archive.org/search.php?query=badnarik
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Let Badnarik Debate
Sep 1, 2004
Scott Walsh movies
America is the land of the free, not the land of the ‘free speech’ zone. Bill O’Reilly and the Patriot Act are two of the worst things that have happened to America. And to set the record straight, Bill O’Reilly is a COWARD, and is afraid to debate Libertarian Presidential Candidate Michael Badnarik on national TV. And, it’s not the only debate Badnarik is trying to get into. The Libertarian Party, on the ballot in all 50 states for the past three elections, the nation’s third largest political…
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Topics: Badnarik, debates, election
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Send A Message – Vote Badnarik
Oct 19, 2004
movies
Presents the idea that voters can “Send a Message” by voting for what they want instead of against what they fear. For many American voters that means voting for Michael Badnarik, Libertarian for President.
Topics: Badnarik, Libertarian, President
4,073
Bush Vs. Badnarik Round 1
Aug 22, 2004
Scott Walsh movies
Having a vote and having no one to vote for is not Freedom. I’d like to point out that the candidates don’t own the votes. The voters do. -Michael Badnarik, Libertarian For President 2004 Yes, Libertarian Presidential Candidate Michael Badnarik is an underdog, but in America, anybody can be President. Help make an American Dream come true. Vote for Freedom in 2004, vote for Badnarik. The media gets almost no advertising dollars from the Libertarians and thus have little reason to cover them or…
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Topics: Badnarik, anti-bush, election
4,194
Constitution Class by Michael Badnarik
Jun 26, 2007
Michael Badnarik movies
This video course by Michael Badnarik is a must see for all Americans. If you think you understand American history, the Constitution, and the basis of law and government you are probably sadly mistaken. Mr. Badnarik explains these things in clear and easy to understand language that is guaranteed to blow your mind. It comes in 7 segments of nearly one hour each. This free course gets 5 Stars. Mr. Badnarik has held very impressive positions with a Secret security clearance from the U.S….
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Topics: constitution, freedom, america, commonlaw
1,084
Michael Badnarik in 2004 – An American Revolution
Aug 16, 2004
Walt Thiessen movies
You’ll hear Mr. Badnarik, the Libertarian candidate, speak on the hottest issues in this year’s election, including the War in Iraq, the Economy, Health Care, Social Security, and the recently proposed (and defeated) Gay Marriage amendment to the Constitution, among others. You’ll also hear him as he discusses his self-described “hot button” issue: protecting the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of…
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Reality Report Special Interview – Michael Badnarik
May 21, 2010
movies
http://RealityReport.TV | http://RestoreTheRepublic.com | Continental Congress President Michael Badnarik joins Gary Franchi to discuss his the upcoming national action to deliver the Articles of Freedom to State Houses and Congressional Offices on April 19th.
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Michael Badnarik Interview With B.A. Brooks
Feb 2, 2011
WTPRN movies
Michael Badnarik Interview With B.A. Brooks – May/2008 on WTPRN. (We The People Radio Network) Brooks speaks on the coming economic collapse of America in September 2008 and reveals where he got his resources. Other topics include The NAU, SPP, HR 645, FEMA Camps, The New World Order and surviving martial law. All Rights Reserved (2011) (Recorded Live May/2008 – Released Video July/2008) For more information go to: http://www.uaff.info http://www.uaff.info/femacamps.htm…
Topics: WTPRN, We The People, Radio, Network, Michael Badnarik, B.A. Brooks, U.A.F.F., United, Freedom,…
116,487
Constitution Class taught by Michael Badnarik
Jun 18, 2004
Michael Badnarik movies
The 2004 Libertarian Presidential Candidate, Michael Badnarik teaches his famous class about the Constitution. If you don’t know the difference between a right and a privilege, this is a must see! If you think you know the difference, then answer this question: Is the US a democracy? For the answer (surprisingly), watch this. For more info on Badnarik’s 2004 campaign for President, please visit http://www.badnarik.org Imagine Bush and Kerry in a debate with Badnarik… He’d wipe the floor with…
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Topics: Libertarian, Liberty, Freedom, Rights, Constitution, Presidential, Badnarik, 2004, Democracy,…
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Michael Badnarik Interview With B.A. Brooks – May/2008
Feb 3, 2011
B.A. Brooks audio
Michael Badnarik Radio Interview With B.A. Brooks – May/2008 on WTPRN. (We The People Radio Network) Brooks speaks on the coming economic collapse of America in September 2008 and reveals where he got his resources. Other topics include The NAU, SPP, HR 645, FEMA Camps, The New World Order and surviving martial law. All Rights Reserved (2011) (Recorded Live May/2008 – Video Released July/2008) For more information go to: http://www.uaff.info http://www.uaff.info/femacamps.htm…
Topics: Michael Badnarik, B.A. Brooks, U.A.F.F., United, Freedom Foundation, freedom, patriot, patriotism,…
1,561
Presenting Michael Badnarik – the 2004 Libertarian U.S. Presidential Candidate
Jul 20, 2004
Michael Badnarik and the Libertarian Party movies
A wonderfully edited compilation of Michael Badnarik giving the answers to questions you want and need answered. Most of this is from the debates held at the 2004 Libertarian Convention, covered by C-SPAN.
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Topics: Libertarian, Liberty, Freedom, Rights, Constitution, Presidential, Badnarik, 2004, Democracy,…
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Interview with Badnarik
Nov 2, 2004
John Bachir movies
This interview was performed by John Bachir during the RNC convention in New York and was before the Libertarian/Green Party
Topics: Michael Badnarik, Libertarian, 2004 Presidential Election
367
Your Peace President
Oct 21, 2004
Aaron Russo movies
Unlike Bush or Kerry, Michael Badnarik will bring home our troops and concentrate on National Defense instead of international offense. Don’t condone the Iraq war or the Patriot Act. Vote Badnarik!
Topics: Peace, Libertarian, President
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Prison Planet Radio – Episode 22
Jun 21, 2008
Alex Jones audio
Alex talks with Constitutional Scholar and Libertarian Candidate for Congress Michael Badnarik about eminent domain, the constitution and his run for Congress.
Topics: prison, planet, alex, jones, libertarian, badnarik
Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com
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RR-26 – SPECIAL EDITION – Interview with President of Continental Congress 2009
Nov 16, 2009
movies
http://RestoreTheRepublic.com | In this special edition of the Reality Report Gary Franchi is joined by Michael Badnarik the elected president of the Continental Congress. Don not miss this powerful interview.
4,032
Constitutional Law – Your Ironclad Guarantee Of Freedom
Apr 13, 2013
texts
Many people think the US Constitution is not enforceable. Think again. Here you will find a mountain of examples showing you that the Constitution is a fully enforceable, iron clad guarantee of freedom. The Declaration of Independence and Your Complete Constitution – With Easy Guide to Public EnforcementConstitution Class by Michael Badnarik – Michael Badnarik Hide Your Guns!Constitution Class taught by Michael Badnarik – Michael Badnarik Jury Nullification and People’s Grand Jury – The…
Topics: constitution, US, USA, bill of rights, rule of law, nullification, obamacare, unconstitutional…
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Alex Jones Radio Show – February 16 2010
Feb 16, 2010
Infowars.com; GCNLive.com audio
Alex welcomes back to the show author, historian, and journalist Webster Tarpley. Webster is the author of Obama – The Postmodern Coup and Barack H. Obama: The Unauthorized Biography, both available at the Infowars store. Alex also talks with Darwin Boedecker, the organizer of Texas Gun Shows, an event forced to close down by the BATF and the Austin Police, and Michael Badnarik, the Libertarian Party nominee for President of the United States in the 2004 elections. Badnarik suffered a heart…
Topics: Alex Jones Show, Infowars, Prison Planet, Webster Griffin Tarpley, Darwin Boedecker, Michael…
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Free Talk Live – 2006-12-07
Feb 23, 2016
Free Talk Live audio
Possible good news about Habeas Corpus :: Hero Dies in Cold :: Chip in Head :: Bureaucrats disbelieve rape victim. :: The Amish :: Familiarity with Libertarianism :: Persuading Liberals :: Pizza Thug :: Police have no incentive to care. :: More on the Badnarik campaign mismanagment. :: Police Privilige :: The Truth About Global Warming :: FSP Feasibility
Topic: Free Talk Live
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free talk live .com ‘s 120706 show
Dec 10, 2006
freetalklive.com audio
Possible good news about Habeas Corpus / Hero Dies in Cold / Chip in Head / Bureaucrats disbelieve rape victim. / The Amish / Familiarity with Libertarianism / Persuading Liberals / Pizza Thug / Police have no incentive to care. / More on the Badnarik campaign mismanagment. / Police Privilige / The Truth About Global Warming / FSP Feasibility
Topics: free talk live, freetalklive, theshowpodcast, mark, radio, liberty, libertarian, gcn, gcnlive
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Alex Jones Radio Show – September 18 2009
Sep 19, 2009
Infowars.com; GCNLive.com audio
Alex talks with filmmaker William Lewis about his latest effort, Camp FEMA, now available at Alex Jones’ Infowars Store. Lewis’ other films include Washington You’re Fired (also availabe at the Infowars store) and Life On the Edge of a Bubble. Camp FEMA features Alex Jones, Chuck Baldwin, Michael Badnarik, Larry Pratt and others. Click Here to Purchase The “Camp Fema” Documentary.
Topics: Alex Jones Show, Infowars, Prison Planet, William Lewis, Fema Camps, Camp Fema
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Alex Jones Radio Show – May 11 2010
May 11, 2010
Infowars.com; GCNLive.com audio
Alex talks with historian, author and journalist Webster Tarpley about recent economic developments. Tarpley is the author of numerous books, including Barack H. Obama: The Unauthorized Biography and Obama – The Postmodern Coup, both availabe at the Infowars store. Alex also welcomes back to the show Michael Badnarik, the Libertarian Party nominee for president in the 2004 elections. Two years later he ran as a Libertarian Party candidate in congressional elections for Texas’ 10th congressional…
Topics: Alex Jones Show, Infowars, Prison Planet, Webster Griffin Tarpley, Michael Badnarik
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Cornell Presidential Debate
Oct 27, 2004
GodFamilyRepublic.com movies
On October 6, Four Presidential Candidates gathered to have a most unusual debate. It was one where issues were debated and actual questions were asked! You must know then, that Bush & Kerry did not participate in this debate. They were getting prepped for their Presidential Press Conference. Find out who else is running – and why we can’t afford to waste our votes this – or any other time – on empty promises. Badnarik, Brown, Cobb, Peroutka. This is an unrated, unedited, uncut, raw feed…
Interesting: Johnson is over the 1m landmark on Facebook.
gp: there is nothing to keep the Republicans from arranging things so that, say, Ted Cruz gets four Texas electoral votes, so the choices in the house become Clinton-Trump-Cruz.
me: Kinda like selling a covered call or something. But then couldn’t the Ds do the same?
as they sorta say in Animal Farm… some posters are more equal then others…. here at IPR
Dave,
I have that same problem…. and yet I notice others can post much longer posts then I.
Forgive me having to post the above in three parts, but my posting keeps timing out when I try to post too much at once on this site. Very frustrating.
Though interestingly enough, Badnarik himself is quoted as saying immediately upon his wining of the nomination, “If I can win the nomination, there’s no reason I can’t win this election.” Highly doubtful he really believed it, but I don’t fault him for it. My point is campaigns always declare they can win. It gets their supporters riled up. No one wants to believe a candidate they really like, may donate to, and may volunteer for will get .3-.6% of the vote on election day.
Maybe not the campaign itself, but I do remember that being harbored as a big game changer for the campaign. In fairness, I don’t recall anyone from the campaign coming out and declaring this would win Badnarik the election, though many of his fans thought getting him mainstream media coverage would prevail him to victory. But best I recall, he never did get on O’Reilly or attacted major press, so I suppose we’ll never know.
The blog has since apparently been lost to history, as the Badnarik campaign site has gone over to internet heaven. But I was able to find a reference to it from a post on an election forum.
“(Badnarik’s) next big move is to hire a reputable PR firm in New York that would be able to get him on shows like Larry King Live, Real Time w/ Bill Maher, The O’Reilly Factor, The Daily Show w/ Jon Stewart, etc., though he needs a few thousand more dollars according to his blog.”
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=6864.msg179017#msg179017
I followed the Badnarik campaign for President, and I do not recall them putting out any statement that was this delusional.
Five Problems With Johnson/Weld (for Republicans) – http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/08/02/here-we-go-republicans-for-johnsonweld-launches-n2201084
I’ve noticed that many of the Gary Groupies love to tout this ticket as being more “serious” and “credible” than past LP tickets, or even than the major party tickets.
So, do you guys think this Constitutional sleight of hand is a “serious” and “credible” theory to promote?
It’s ridiculous of course, but I seem to recall the Badnarik campaign building the same hype back in 2004. It was the first LP campaign I really followed, and there were several weeks where excitement hit a critical level because the campaign had gotten some PR agency that was going to get them on the O’Reiley Factor and other popular shows. From there a lot of his supporters seemed convinced that as soon as all Americans knew who he was, he’d win in a landslide(granted, I was one of them.)
I don’t fault the Johnson campaign for trying to build enthusiasm.
The problem with this theory is that the U.S. population, docile though it is sometimes, would not stand for the U.S. House of Representatives to choose the person who came in a distant third in the popular vote to be President.
Even in 1824, when the U.S. House chose the person who placed 2nd in the popular vote instead of the person who placed first, the public was very upset.
The requirements for this scenario are (i) a third-party candidate gets electoral votes, (ii) none of the other three candidates has a majority of the electoral votes, (iii) party loyalty does not elect Trump. (ii) is extremely difficult to arrange. If the other two candidates are more than five electoral votes apart, one of them wins.
In addition to that, the orthodox Republican an Democratic folks have to fail to notice that they control who are the three candidates in the house. If, for example, Trump and Clinton split perfectly, and Stein gets her three electoral votes, so that the election is House–bound, there is nothing to keep the Republicans from arranging things so that, say, Ted Cruz gets four Texas electoral votes, so the choices in the house become Clinton-Trump-Cruz.
Yeah, right. Keep on passing that crack pipe around and maybe you will get more people to believe this.