The Reform Party Nominates “Rocky” de la Fuente for President

The Reform Party has announced on its Facebook page that it has nominated “Rocky” de la Fuente for President. This was announced today after an executive session that ran late into the night last night. An official statement from the Reform Party is expected to be forthcoming.

32 thoughts on “The Reform Party Nominates “Rocky” de la Fuente for President

  1. Andy

    How many states does the Reform Party still have ballot access in? I think it is only 3 or 4, not much more than that.

  2. Thomas Knapp

    Andy,

    New York, but supposedly that ballot line is being given to Trump.

    Florida, if Fuente is allowed to appear on the ballot — the law says no because he is already on a ballot for US Senate, but maybe they’ll bend the law for him or maybe he will take it to court and win.

    Colorado, if he gets the filing fee and list of electors in by tomorrow.

    Plus any states where he’s already procured ballot access as an independent or candidate of his “Delta Party.”

    And maybe Louisiana (I think that’s just a filing fee).

    And there might be a couple of others.

  3. Thomas Knapp

    Red,

    Nope. The Reform Party’s public communications apparatus appears to be as creaky and slow-moving as its nomination apparatus 🙂

  4. Richard Winger

    The vice-presidential nominee is probably Michael Steinberg, who is Rocky’s v-p in other states. Rocky has petitioned in about 25 states.

    The Florida law only bars people from being on the ballot for 2 offices simultaneously. The August 30 US Senate primary in Florida is not simultaneously with the November election.

  5. Thomas Knapp

    “The Florida law only bars people from being on the ballot for 2 offices simultaneously. ”

    Well, that’s not what the Florida law SAYS. What it SAYS is:

    “No person may qualify as a candidate for more than one public office, whether federal, state, district, county, or municipal, if the terms or any part thereof run concurrently with each other.”

    The next presidential term and the next US Senate term run concurrently.

    Fuente has qualified as a candidate for US Senate.

    So if the law is FOLLOWED, when he goes in to qualify for US president, he will be told “sorry, you’ve already run for the maximum number of offices this year.”

    Will the law be followed, or will its fairly unambiguous intent suddenly develop loopholitis?

    My guess is that in any other year he would be sent packing, but this year he may get lucky.

    This year there’s another candidate doing a reverse Fuente — first he qualified for president and now that he’s lost that primary he’s running for Senate.

    His name is Marco Rubio, and since he’s a sitting Republican Senator from a state where the Republicans currently control the executive branch, the law is probably going to suddenly not apply any more. And there’s a very good chance that in order to not call attention to Rubio getting over, Fuente will be allowed to get over, too.

    Which is cool, because I’m all for maximum ballot access for all.

    But it does seem kind of dumb to me that a party with ballot access in only two states, which is giving its ballot line in one of those states to someone other than its national nominee, would choose as that nominee someone who is legally ineligible to be on the ballot in the other state.

  6. Thomas Knapp

    Andy,

    I don’t think so. I’m sure Richard would know. To the best of my knowledge they have continuing ballot access in New York and Florida, and a splinter group that doesn’t work with them has a Reform Party ballot line in Mississippi, and that’s it.

  7. Brad

    Michael Steinberg’s website – http://www.2016primary.com/

    Resides in FL. Fuente just moved to FL for the Democratic Senate race (that he will lose).

    Also running for President under the Reform Party & ‘Delta Party’.

    At least he has money…

  8. Thomas Knapp

    “At least he has money …”

    He’s going to need it. In the most recent election for each candidate — and they were identical elections, Democratic presidential primaries — Fuente spent nearly 600 times per much ($95.50) as Darcy Richardson ($0.16) for each vote.

    I ran Darcy’s little social media campaign between the Reform Party convention and the final decision. Reached an audience of 1.2 million for about half of what Rocky spends per vote.

  9. Thomas Knapp

    “Who is this guy? Has he ever held elective office?”

    Fuente? So far as I know he’s never held elective office. He apparently made his early money running car dealerships, then branched out into finance and real estate (he had some legal problems with the finance stuff). He owns businesses in several countries. I don’t know how wealthy he is, but last time I noticed he had put more than $6 million of his own money into his presidential campaign.

  10. Andy

    Yeah, he spent over $6 million on his Democrat presidential primary campaign earlier this year. I am not sure how wealthy he is, but I have not found any verification that he is a billionaire. If he is not a billionaire, he may be worth in the 100’s of millions, or at least in the 10’s of millions of dollars.

  11. Richard Winger

    The Michigan Reform Party went off the ballot in November 2004, after the Secretary of State refused to print any of the party’s nominees on the ballot. She said she got two lists of nominees from two different factions, and she said she couldn’t figure out which faction was the real faction, so she printed no names. With no names for any office, the party failed the vote test. In other states, when that happens, the state elections officials investigate and decide which is the real set of officers. But Michigan Secretaries of State had a habit of refusing to investigate. That hurt the American Independent Party in the 1970’s, and the Reform Party in 2000 and again in 2004. That is why Pat Buchanan didn’t get on the ballot in Michigan, the only state he missed.

  12. Darcy G Richardson

    “So will this shut Darcy up?”

    Not a chance. In fact, I’m sure I’ll have more media opportunities as a non-candidate than as a Reform Party nominee, in which I would have been viewed as a rival. As your question suggests, I plan to use many of those appearances to talk about Gary Johnson’s little-scrutinized record as governor of New Mexico and to remind the American electorate of the Libertarian candidate’s ghoulish austerity proposals made during his 2012 campaign.

    It’ll be a kind of one-man truth squad.

    As a matter of fact, I just taped a 30-minute interview that will be heard on more than 150 AM and FM stations across the country later this month.

  13. Peter B. Gemma

    As of August 1, de la Fuente had only officially qualified for a spot in four states: Colorado, Idaho, New Mexico and Utah.
    Pennsylvania just rejected De La Fuente’s petition because of the sore loser law – he was on the ballot in the 2016 Democratic presidential primary.
    FL and PA – two key states – are now off the list of ballot qualified states. I suspect there will be others. He impressed the Reform Party people with his swagger: he promised to sue PA on the ruling. Ralph Nader, the Constitution Party, and the Libertarian Party an others have sued PA up one side and the other over the years.
    He’s spent $6.6 million dollars so far – even savvy people on this website have never heard of him.
    Nice to see a millionaire get a break.

  14. Steven Wilson

    His money aside; he is now the Presidential nominee of a completely dysfunctional party. I have heard that it took a small group of people to nominate him which took a week or more. They have a state which has already splintered into two separate factions.

    I have always considered myself open-minded and a hard worker, but I see no utility to the reform party.

    Ross Perot of 1992 was situational success. His charisma and easy speak did help, but you cannot discount his personal funding of his campaign as well as the American voters’ distrust of Bush after Desert Storm non-victory. The Clinton/Bush huckleberry persona wasn’t lighting any fires early on either.

    The voters seemed ready for another voice which Perot provided. This is not 1992

  15. Darcy G Richardson

    “What were the vote totals from the mail ballot (for Rocky and Darcy)?” — Chuck Moulton

    Chuck,
    I was informed, in writing, by the party’s national secretary late Monday night that the final vote was 5 for Rocky De La Fuente, 4 for myself, one for Lynn Kahn, and one for Ken Cross of Arkansas.

    I’m not really disappointed by the results, just a little bewildered why they asked me to seek their nomination in the first place.

  16. Darcy G Richardson

    Then again, I never owned a blimp. Maybe the Reform Party was looking for its own Hindenburg, albeit a mini version. It’ll be one rocky ride, and probably with the same disastrous ending.

  17. Krzysztof Lesiak

    Darcy Richardson writes:

    I was informed, in writing, by the party’s national secretary late Monday night that the final vote was 5 for Rocky De La Fuente, 4 for myself, one for Lynn Kahn, and one for Ken Cross of Arkansas.

    So De La Fuente won with about 45% of the vote? Shouldn’t there have been a second ballot? Maybe if that had been the case, we would be seeing a Richardson/Knapp ticket instead.

    Also, Wikipedia shows that Arkansas, Idaho, Nevada, New Mexico, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Utah, Vermont, Florida, Louisiana, Mississipp are states where De La Fuente is qualified. Since I believe Richard mentioned that Rocky likely won’t be on the ballot in Pennsylvania, than that would leave 10 states (87 electoral votes), still purely going by this Wiki article.

    I mean, this is not bad at all considering the Reform Party’s 2008 and 2012 vote totals combined were less than the openly white nationalist American Freedom Party’s 2012 total (2,700 votes – and this was their first presidential campaign). It looks like De La Fuente could possibly break 5,000 votes (but this is pure unscientific speculation on my part).

    However, since De La Fuente is running in most states as an independent or under his “America Delta Party” label, it looks like the Reform Party isn’t (or barely isn’t) going to gain any additional qualified states for 2020, right? Like someone mentioned on another Reform Party thread, this seems to be a “one night stand” on De La Fuente’s part. If he was actually serious about growing the Reform Party, would he be continuing his Democratic Senate campaign? His Facebook page barely mentions his presidential run as of right now.

    To be fair, De La Fuente is not Robby Wells. He deserves credit for that.

  18. Thomas Knapp

    “So De La Fuente won with about 45% of the vote? Shouldn’t there have been a second ballot? Maybe if that had been the case, we would be seeing a Richardson/Knapp ticket instead.”

    Well, thank God we dodged that bullet 🙂

  19. Darcy G Richardson

    “Rocky De La Fuente received 5% of the ballots cast in the Democratic primary for US Senator for Florida.” — Thane Eichenauer

    Well, it’s obvious that the vast majority of Floridians who participated in yesterday’s Democratic U.S. Senate primary have bigger and better things in mind for Rocky.

    Given the two, if not three, leading choices for the presidency, two of whom are so self-absorbed that they don’t realize that more than half the country can’t stand either of them, and a third, who is almost always stoned, promoting the idea of selfishness — as though there was a shortage of egocentrism in American society — a Rocky De La Fuente bid for the White House, modeled after JFK’s Presidency, the most prosperous period for working-class and middle-income wage earners in modern American history, has a certain appeal for those looking for an authentic outsider in November.

    Rocky is an unusually modest and low-key guy, but has one hell of an intriguing life story. Unlike The Donald, Rocky isn’t into self-promotion. He’s far too humble to talk about himself and his accomplishments, which have been many — and that’s kind of refreshing in this era of uncontrolled, if not pathological, narcissism.

    He also has genuine empathy for others, something lacking in most individuals seeking the presidency.

    The country can do worse, far worse, than a De La Fuente presidency — and almost certainly will.

    Now, if we could only find his blimp.

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