CBS 60 Minutes – Johnson Promises: “No Hypocrisy; Full Transparency”

60-minutes60 Minutes corespondent Steve Kroft interviewed Governors Gary Johnson and Bill Weld for broadcast on CBS earlier tonight. It’s the first time 60 Minutes has interviewed any third-party presidential candidate AND the vice-presidential running mate.  Johnson: “I believe this is going to be the demise of the Republican Party. . . .  The unforgivable in life, hypocrisy, saying one thing and doing another. Telling the truth. I hope more than anything I am credited here with telling the truth. No hypocrisy, full transparency. . . . That is the difference here . . . it will be transparent. . . . ”  Also, “Much of what you cite is the Libertarian Platform which . . . you know we are the Libertarian nominees for President and Vice-President, but we are not looking to eliminate Medicare; we do believe in a safety-net. But there has to be reforms in Medicaid and Medicare as well as Social Security.”

Video of the full interview can be seen HERE.  A transcript of the entire interview is also available at that link.

The 60 Minutes website has also provided links to two other “Third” Party candidate  interviews — Ross Perot in 1992 and George Wallace in October 1968 (60 Minutes was less than a month old – their first broadcast was September 24th, 1968).

Those interviews can be seen HERE.

“When you look at your presidential ballot in November, somewhere below the Democratic and Republican lines you will find the Libertarian Party and the Green Party, but for many voters this year they might as well read “none of the above.”

“In a race that features the most unpopular Democratic and Republican party choices in memory, they are the two alternatives to Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump and for the first time in 16 years third parties could well determine the outcome of the election. Right now, of the two alternatives, the Libertarian Party has the most support and is the only one on the ballot in all 50 states. The ticket of Gary Johnson and Bill Weld is currently favored by about eight or nine percent of the electorate even though 70 percent of the voters don’t know who Johnson and Weld are. We thought it was time to give you a primer.

“Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson and his running mate, Bill Weld CBS NEWS
If you don’t recognize them, the tall guy on the left is vice presidential candidate Bill Weld. The shorter one is former New Mexico governor and presidential nominee Gary Johnson. Right now they can stroll through a park unmolested by the press and the public. Their rallies usually attract only a few hundred people… but they can still make some noise and are not without enthusiastic support.

“Steve Kroft: Why are you doing this?

“Gary Johnson: I think that we would do a really good job.”

The transcript can be read in its entirety HERE.

 

36 thoughts on “CBS 60 Minutes – Johnson Promises: “No Hypocrisy; Full Transparency”

  1. Krzysztof Lesiak

    Andy,

    I know you get a lot of hate here on IPR from Johnson supporters who are bending over backwards to defend CFR Weld, but I, for one, appreciate your comments. I was glad to see you posted Paul Joseph Watson’s video about JWeld. Alex Jones and company have been doing some good work in regarding to exposing this globalist ticket. Keep up the good fight. It’s good to see a longtime LP activist such as yourself taking a principled stand and refusing to support a neoconservative, New World Order approved ticket.

    Chris

  2. Tony From Long Island

    ” . . . . .Alex Jones is doing good work . . . . . ”

    Oh really? That expose about how juice boxes are turning boys into women was really great work! . . . . . 9/11 truther crap . . . . . The “birtther” shit – probably the most vile and disgusting smear attack on a US President since Rachel Jackson . . . Of course the list could go on

  3. Anthony Dlugos

    It’s the Extreme Associates Caucus. Extreme Associates being the porn production company dedicated to depicting rough action, humiliation, simulated felonies, etc.

    These folks aren’t interested in presenting a load of Liberty capable of being swallowed by the typical voter. They’re gonna ram home their rod of anarchism, shocking and humiliating the voter in the process.

    Alex Jones is one of their porn stars, his nutty conspiracy theories their cuckold fantasies. Reductions in the size and scope of government are incidental to their message.

  4. Mr. Brown

    Extreme Associates is weak. Check out Duke Skywalker and his excellent sites such as Facial Abuse, Latina Abuse and Ghetto Gaggers for real hardcore action.

  5. Andy

    Anthony Dlugos said: “These folks aren’t interested in presenting a load of Liberty capable of being swallowed by the typical voter. ”

    Not true. The most successful campaigns in terms of spreading a libertarian message to the public was Ron Paul 2008 and Ron Paul 2012, and I was a big supporter of both of those campaigns.

    The Libertarian Party was at its most successful in terms of party membership back in the Harry Browne days.

    Also, I have stated numerous times that I do not have to agree with a candidate on every detail of every issue in order to support somebody.

  6. Andy

    “Krzysztof Lesiak
    September 19, 2016 at 04:38
    Andy,

    I know you get a lot of hate here on IPR from Johnson supporters who are bending over backwards to defend CFR Weld, but I, for one, appreciate your comments. I was glad to see you posted Paul Joseph Watson’s video about JWeld. Alex Jones and company have been doing some good work in regarding to exposing this globalist ticket. Keep up the good fight. It’s good to see a longtime LP activist such as yourself taking a principled stand and refusing to support a neoconservative, New World Order approved ticket.

    Chris”

    Thanks. Like I have said here before, I think that it is important to support principle over party. Why? Because political parties, or other organizations, can become corrupted, and/or can do things that are just flat out stupid. Nominating Johnson/Weld was both corrupt and stupid.

    I am not really taking any joy in this. I’d much rather have a ticket that I felt OK about supporting, but this is just not the case with Johnson/Weld, nor has it been the case in the two previous presidential elections. A lot of people have a hard time admitting when an organization of which they are a part of has done something wrong. We have what I’d call a moral obligation to stand up for principles, and if we are not willing to do this, then we will end up being no better than the Democrats and the Republicans.

  7. Andy

    ‘Joseph Buchman Post author
    September 19, 2016 at 10:34
    end up?”

    I’d like to think that we have not sunk quite that low yet, but we are unfortunately on our way there.

  8. Joseph Buchman Post author

    Andy,

    I’d suggest researching the lifetime Non-Disclosure and lifetime Non-Disparagement (of Ron Nielson, Joe Hunter, the campaign, et. al.) that those working for the campaign, and now apparently what everyone on the LNC who even sees the contract have been rumored to have been required to sign. (Starchild and Caryn Harlos the only exceptions that I am currently aware of). Lots of discussion of this on the LNC Business list and various member Facebook pages.

    I have little to no desire to research this; frankly I’d rather not be sued by Ron and the campaign as was threatened via email from one of their attorneys back in 2013. But as I’ve signed no such agreements I can at least point to that as evidence for “end up” having arrived in full.

    Makes me a bit sad.

    I suspect there are IPR readers, and perhaps even contributors, who have signed such agreements. If so, I’d be interested in their insights as regards the Governor’s promise/commitment/example concerning full transparency and honesty should he get elected, and some challenge to explain how way of being is being brought fully to the current campaign.

  9. Andy

    “Joseph Buchman Post author
    September 19, 2016 at 10:56
    Andy,

    I’d suggest researching the lifetime Non-Disclosure and lifetime Non-Disparagement (of Ron Nielson, Joe Hunter, the campaign, et. al.) that those working for the campaign, and now apparently what everyone on the LNC who even sees the contract have been rumored to have been required to sign. (Starchild and Caryn Harlos the only exceptions that I am currently aware of). Lots of discussion of this on the LNC Business list and various member Facebook pages.”

    This is pretty disturbing if true.

    Even if it is true, I still think we have plenty of good people in the Libertarian Party at the state and local level. The fact is that Johnson/Weld spent 10 times as much as the other candidates for the nomination combined, and they still barely won the nomination. This tells me that there are still Libertarians out there with good sense and integrity.

  10. Be Rational

    “The Libertarian Party was at its most successful in terms of party membership back in the Harry Browne days. ” Andy

    Sorry Andy, but you should know better.

    The bulk of what you see as increasing membership numbers in those days were primarily generated in a direct mail scam that ripped off the party for tens of thousands of dollars and resulted in no real membership increase.

    The LP had real growth from its inception that rose to a peak in 1981 following the Clark campaign. Then the party crashed after Eric O’Keefe was fired and Honey Lanham took over due to total incompetence in the national office and in the Bergland campaign.

    When Jim Turney was elected National Chair, he had to rescue the LP by hauling what was left of it out of Houston in a tiny trailer behind his car. Without Turney, the LP would have been dead and buried in Houston.

    The LP had another growth spurt in the late 80s and early 90s. It was primarily a result of competent management, hard work, Andre Marrou’s hard work and organizational skills in 1992, and dedicated leadership in several states and at national, but that was killed off by the Berglandista controlled direct mail scam that sucked the party dry – teh one that you have fallen for.

    Now, the LP is going through another growth period due to the positive interest generated by Johnson/Weld, and the negatives of Trump and Clinton driving people to look at the LP.

  11. Andy

    “Thomas Knapp
    September 19, 2016 at 13:45
    William,

    Whatever else might be said about Andy, he’s a libertarian. Libertarians don’t support tinhorn authoritarian fucksticks like Trump.”

    Thanks for the vote of confidence, Tom.

    Some libertarians are supporting Trump, and even though I am not on board with them, I still consider a lot of these people to be libertarians. I think that they are supporting him because they perceive him to be the lesser evil as compared to Hillary Clinton, and given the way that the mainstream media is biased against Trump and in favor of Hillary, and given that the some of the Republican establishment is against Trump, and given that the establishment has gone to the trouble to co-opt the Libertarian Party ticket, and how that ticket has attacked Trump and taken a “kid gloves” approach with Hillary, and given that the establishment has recruited a CIA stooge in Evan McMullin (aka-“Egg McMuffin”) to run for President, even though he jumped in the race so late that they could only get him on a few state ballots, I think that there is a possibility that they may be correct, as in Donald Trump MIGHT actually be less bad than Hillary Clinton. I normally would not even suggest something like this, because under most circumstances, I do not think that there is any chance that it is true. Bush vs Gore, Kerry vs Bush, Obama vs. McCain, Romney vs Obama. It really did not make a damn bit of difference who won those elections between those choices. I’d say the same thing this time if not for the fact that it does seem like the establishment is going out of its way to sabotage Donald Trump to make sure that Hillary Clinton gets installed as the next President. Does this make Donald Trump a good guy? Maybe, or maybe not, but we all know that Hillary Clinton is absolutely terrible.

    So why haven’t I jumped on the Donald Trump bandwagon? Frankly, I still do not trust the guy. He’s got zero record of being a libertarian or a constitutionalist. If I thought that Trump was a constitutionalist I’d certainly vote for him, but I just have not seen any evidence to convince me that he is. Some of what Trump says sounds good, but he’s also done some flip flopping on issues. Look at the candidates that Donald Trump has supported for office. All mainstream Republicans and Democrats. Donald Trump will tell you that he donated to both parties as a way of essentially bribing them so they would not attack his business. This sounds like a reasonable explanation on the surface, but keep in mind that it was not that long ago that he was buddies with Bill and Hillary Clinton, and that he was praising them. He even invited them to his wedding. I also find it to be kind of strange how Donald Trump’s daughter, Ivanika, recently said that Chelsea Clinton is one of her best friends. Now one could say that Chelsea is the daughter of Bill and Hillary, and that she is not responsible for the political views and scandals of her parents, and this is true, however, Chelsea is fully indoctrinated into the views of her parents, and she has financially benefited a great deal as an adult from the connections and corruption of her parents. Another issue with Trump is that he’s pledged his undying support for the state of Israel. Does this mean that the US tax payer funded welfare checks and military aid (which the US military-industrial-complex profits from) to Israel will continue under a Donald Trump administration? If so, then we will get little to no improvement from Trump on this issue.

    There’s an alternative “conspiracy theory” being floated by some that the Donald Trump campaign is really a scam, and that Trump is actually running to get Hillary Clinton elected, and that Donald himself is in on the scam. I don’t know if this is true or not, but I think that there is enough evidence to lend some credence to the theory.

    I do not have to agree with a candidate on every detail of everything in order to support a candidate, but I just have not seen enough from Trump that would make me feel comfortable with jumping on his bandwagon. Maybe I’m wrong, but unless I see some good evidence that makes me change my mind between now and November, I am either a) writing in None Of The Above for President, b) not voting in the presidential election, or c) voting for Darrell Castle for President.

    I’d love to vote for the Libertarian Party’s presidential ticket in November, but a majority of Libertarian delegates at the national convention in Orlando chose to not give us a libertarian ticket this year, so that option is unfortunately not available.

  12. Be Rational

    Andy, If you actually want to have impact and bring about change, you should hold your nose and vote for Johnson/Weld.

    Those votes will be counted and have an impact. Any other vote you cast will not.

  13. Andy

    Be Rational, I disagree. If people joined the LP because of a direct mail campaign, they joined of their own free will, and they new exactly what they were doing. You make it sound as though some kind of deceptive marketing was going on to trick people into joining, and this was not the case.

    I was involved in the party back then, and I remember how lots of new people were coming into the party because of the Harry Browne campaign. I should know because I was one of them back in 1996. When Harry Browne got media coverage, he would plug the 800 number and the website, and this got a lot of people to contact the party, and it was in fact Harry Browne doing this at the 1996 convention on C-SPAN which got me to contact the party. Harry Browne presented a pretty hardcore libertarian message, unlike the watered down drivel that the “Libertarian” presidential tickets have been presenting to the public since 2008, and he was bringing in lots of new activists, and many of these people are still active in the party and movement today.

    Fundraising for the national party was ahead of what it is today. Party membership was ahead of where it is today. Several of the state parties were raising more money back then than they do today. There were more elected Libertarian back then than there are today (the party hit its peak of elected Libertarians at around 650 in the early 2000’s). The Libertarian Party ran more candidates back then than it is running today. We did all of this WITHOUT watering down the Libertarian message and presenting the public with the kind of drivel that we do today, and have done for the last couple of election cycles, at the presidential level.

    When you do these comparison to then and now, remember to adjust the dollar amounts for inflation, and remember to take US population growth into consideration as well, as the dollar is worth less today than it was back then, and the population of the country is higher today than it was back then. Also, the market conditions are much easier today than they were back in the 1990’s and early 2000’s. More people are online today, and the speed and quality of the internet has improved, which means that you can reach a lot more people for a lot cheaper than you used to be able to do this. Ron Paul’s runs for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008 and 2012 GREATLY expanded recognition of the word libertarian. Since Ralph Nader stopped running for President after the 2008 election there has not been a higher profile or better financed minor party or independent candidate to come along since then to overshadow the LP ticket (and if the LP had not nominated Bob Barr and Wayne Root in 2008, which alienated lots of libertarians, it is quite possible that we could have beaten Nader that year in vote total). Also, surveys have indicated that public disgust with the major parties is at an all time high.

    If anything, the Libertarian Party has been grossly under-performing as compared to what its potential is.

  14. Be Rational

    You can fool all of the people some of the time.
    You can fool some of the people all of the time.

    You can rent direct mail lists, send out letters and get money from suckers who fall for any pitch. They didn’t renew. But you still believe.

    Project Archimedies looted the LP, brought in paper members who never renewed, so they party lost tens of thousands of dollars for nothing.

    We could repeat that process any time, generate thousands of fake memberships and lose tens of thousands of dollars in the process.

    Since then the party leadership seems to have known better than to repeat this failed program.

    The numbers weren’t real.

  15. Thomas Knapp

    I hate to defend Archimedes, and only will to a limited extent:

    I don’t believe it was a scam.

    I believe the LNC and LPHQ staff really, truly believed that it could raise membership numbers long-term by using direct mail to targeted lists (IIRC, they hit the Reason list, some gun right groups lists, etc.).

    It didn’t work because of high churn with lots of people paying $25 dues once or twice then dropping (with the LNC having spent more on recruiting/servicing them than they paid or donated). But as long as the program was going, the numbers kept going up, and I think the people behind it were just as fooled as others as to the meaning of that.

    The direct mail artificially inflated dues-paying member numbers to more than 30k — and when they cut off the direct mailing, that artificial growth disappeared. Bad deal all around, but it looks like a mistake, not a con game, to me.

  16. Be Rational

    Yes, your description of how the DM campaign lost money and hurt the LP is just the same is mine. And, of course the majority of the LNC and LPHQ staff must have bought into the scam. But, I don’t believe that the people behind it didn’t know.

    I personally attended national conventions in DC and nat com meetings in the late 90s warning that it was a scam and that it wouldn’t work.

  17. George Phillies

    Of some interest http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/9/19/1571879/-The-utter-irrelevancy-of-100-million-in-television-advertising

    With respect to Archimedes, one of the ideas under very old campaign finance laws was that it would let the LP convert large amounts of soft money into somewhat less hard money, which could be a good deal, or so was the claim. There is, however, a datable point at which Archimedes was announced, trumpeted in iirc LP news. That was about the point at which membership growth started running out of steam. There were also people claiming the LNC had never approved the program, so it did not exist and could not have failed.

  18. George Dance

    Saturn: “I beg to differ https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/03/walter-block-announces-formation-of-libertarians-for-trump/

    Funny how Trumptards always forget to mention this part:
    “Block insists his group, which he says had garnered several thousand signatories, is narrowly focused. It advocates only for Trump as the Republican nominee, and it intends to promptly disband after the primary. Then, Block said, even his vote is up for grabs.”
    http://gdspoliticalanimal.blogspot.ca/2016/04/the-state-of-ron-paul-r3volution-in-2016.html

  19. Thane Eichenauer

    Thomas Knapp> Yeah, everyone wonders whether that’s a joke or whether Uncle Walter has finally gone completely around the mental bend.

    I think that it is unlikely that Walter Block’s creation is a joke. As for “has finally gone completely around the mental bend” it is simply a case of Block has explained his reasoning. You and others don’t concur with his reasoning.

    As for the disbanding of Libertarians for Trump the web site has been down for at least twelve hours.

    http://libertariansfortrump.org/

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  20. George Phillies

    “Johnson Promises: “No Hypocrisy; Full Transparency””

    Funny. but not true.

    There is a contract in the process of being signed between Johnson 2016 and the LNC. One of its terms requires that the contract be kept secret *in perpetuity*. I thank Sam Goldstein for discovering this “feature”. LNC members who want to read the contract must sign a nondisclosure agreement. Some have refused to sign. How can the LNC for example vote on a budget, when it cannot debate potential fiscal effects of the campaign that some of its members are not allowed to read, and none can discuss in an open session. By reports reaching me, the contract perhaps includes a non-disparagement agreement, meaning hypothetically that LNC members could not at a later date criticize the campaign, for example for using TV ads that do not name Johnson’s party.

    Of course, the membership has no idea what is being done to their party by this deal.

  21. William Saturn

    “Funny how Trumptards always forget to mention this part”

    Walter Block told me last May that the group would likely support Trump through the general election unless Ron Paul somehow became the LP nominee.

  22. Thomas Knapp

    “As for ‘has finally gone completely around the mental bend’ it is simply a case of Block has explained his reasoning. Those who are neither evil nor insane don’t concur with his reasoning.”

    Fixed, no charge.

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