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Gary Johnson: “Horseshit” that he doubled debt as N.M. Governor (from PBS debate with Jill Stein)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Xcp6dv5QE

Anthony Fisher at reason.com:

Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson is increasingly showing his fangs in the waning days of the 2016 electoral cycle.

Last month, Johnson displayed some righteous fury over how much media attention was paid to his “What is Aleppo?” face-plant compared to how little attention has been paid to Hillary Clinton’s hawkish and largely failed foreign policy. More recently, he got feisty with The Guardian‘s Paul Lewis, who pressed him about his tax policy.

And during a two-part debate he took part in with Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein (Part 1 aired last night, Part 2 airs tonight), Johnson described moderator Tavis Smiley’s characterization that he increased New Mexico’s debt by more than double during his eight years as the state’s governor as “horseshit.”

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15 Comments

  1. Matt November 2, 2016

    Thanks, but that’s not a government site. Someone defending Johnson could claim that their data is made up. I think it’s probably accurate but it’s not a slam dunk.

  2. Andy November 2, 2016

    Matt, here is a link to a chart showing New Mexico state government debt that goes from 1996 to 2016. Note that Gary Johnson was elected Governor in 1994, and the chart starts in 1996, but it does indicate that state government debt in New Mexico grew quite a bit during the time period that Gary Johnson was Governor.

    http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/spending_chart_1996_2016NMb_17s6li111mcn_H0t

  3. Matt November 2, 2016

    Laziness. If you happen to have the link handy – something from a government source that Johnson can’t just claim is a false number someone invented – please post it. If not, I said “anyone” and not “Tom Knapp.” And if no one cares enough to post that link, yes, I could look it up myself, if I feel like it.

  4. Thomas Knapp November 2, 2016

    Matt,

    This is something that’s been gone over for months — I published the facts on New Mexico spending and debt under Johnson weeks before the nomination; National Review hit them after the nomination; and so on. If you want the information sourced yet a thousandth time, why not go looking for sources yourself?

  5. Matt November 2, 2016

    Anyone have a handy government source to check?

  6. Thomas Knapp November 2, 2016

    Matt,

    “It sounds to me like Johnson was disputing the fact that this was what happened at all here.”

    Yes, it does kind of sound like that, doesn’t it?

  7. Matt November 1, 2016

    “When federal spending and debt more than double under Barack Obama, it’s the White House’s fault.

    When state spending and debt more than double under Gary Johnson, it’s the legislature’s fault.”

    It sounds to me like Johnson was disputing the fact that this was what happened at all here.

  8. Andy November 1, 2016

    Tom, you also voted to put William Weld a heart beat away from the presidency, which is like saying that you’d want Mitt Romney to be in that position, since Weld is similar to Romney and the two are buddies.

  9. Thomas Knapp November 1, 2016

    “I take it you voted for him for non-fiscal conservative reasons, then?”

    Yep.

  10. robert capozzi November 1, 2016

    tk: The closest thing to a fiscal conservative in this race among the top four candidates is Hillary Clinton. Which is pretty fucking scary.

    me: I take it you voted for him for non-fiscal conservative reasons, then?

  11. Thomas Knapp November 1, 2016

    When federal spending and debt more than double under Barack Obama, it’s the White House’s fault.

    When state spending and debt more than double under Gary Johnson, it’s the legislature’s fault.

    In point of fact, the major elements of New Mexico’s increased debt were Gary Johnson’s pet highway and prison projects.

    The closest thing to a fiscal conservative in this race among the top four candidates is Hillary Clinton. Which is pretty fucking scary.

  12. paulie November 1, 2016

    I’ll try to watch it tonight.

  13. Matt November 1, 2016

    Haven’t had time to watch the debate it. If anyone has, what did you think?

  14. Matt November 1, 2016

    Ah, so there actually was a PBS debate with Jill Stein and Johnson, not just two separate town halls. I’m still leaning Stein, but now I’ll need to watch the debate before I can say whether I have definitely decided not to vote for Johnson. I know a few other people on the fence also so I’ll share the link with them and see what they think as well.

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