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Justice Party of Pennsylvania State Leadership Planning Meeting

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(The following was posted in a Justice Party group on Facebook)

Saturday May 3, 2014 EDT

Bolser Memorial Library 158 W. High Street, Carlisle, Pennsylvania 17013

Join the Justice Party of PA steering committee for their annual leadership planning meeting and take part in setting the party’s direction and goals for the coming year.

Carpools will be available from the Philadelphia and Pittsburgh regions. If you are interested, please indicate this when you RSVP.The event will begin at 1:00pm and will last no more than 2 hours. There will be complimentary food and beverages available.

Want to find out more about the Justice Party of PA?
Go to www.justicepartyofpa.org for more information.

32 Comments

  1. paulie June 25, 2014

    Thanks for the reminder. Haven’t gotten to it yet, but IIRC he lives in Ohio, so he should be at the convention, yes, particularly since he wants to run for LP presidential nomination, correct? Maybe I’ll be able to interview him there. Need to pack now, I have been procrastinating on that too much.

  2. William Saturn June 25, 2014

    Paulie, do you have any updates on your interview with Phil Davison? I am excited to see any report you may have on the matter.

  3. paulie May 1, 2014

    Reminds me of Howard Dean’s speech in Iowa…

  4. Antirevolutionary May 1, 2014

    I do understand what you are saying William. I would probably disagree with Phil on a lot of policy issues, but I agree with the spirit of his speech and I think it could inspire the next generation if repeated.

  5. Jill Pyeatt May 1, 2014

    I did miss the city councilman part. Thanks for pointing it out. I would still prefer to see a greater pattern of past success in a candidate.

  6. paulie May 1, 2014

    Jill, Davison is/was a city councilman, and we are more than two years out from the presidential election so I don’t think it’s impossible; but then again city councilman < congressman.

  7. paulie May 1, 2014

    A journalist from the Canton Repository provided me with his e-mail address. I e-mailed him and I was directed to his Facebook page.

    Shoot me all that then. Including the Canton journalist contact as well, please.

    If you want to talk to him, I hope you could make it worthwhile and do a full scale interview with him. I can give you the number if you’d like to use it for journalistic purposes.

    Might as well.

  8. Jill Pyeatt May 1, 2014

    Since Mr. Davison hasn’t held office, I looked for a pattern of success in his working life. According to Wikipedia, he worked as a bailiff until 2009. He’s certainly highly educated to be working as a bailiff. I’d have trouble supporting anyone without a previous pattern of success.

    If he is serious, William, perhaps you can tell him about our site, and ask him to write something for us. 2016 isn’t terribly far away.

  9. Jill Pyeatt May 1, 2014

    I never hear anyone in our party talk about Mr. Davison. Since he’s never held office, I can’t imagine he’d be brought in at the last minute like Barr was, so if he’s really interested in the LP’s nomination, he should have started a year or two ago.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Davison I see nothing in here that indicates Mr. Davison has libertarian views.

    Also, I just checked his FB page. There’s been nothing for over a year, and it looks like he checks in only about once a year.

  10. William Saturn May 1, 2014

    If you want to talk to him, I hope you could make it worthwhile and do a full scale interview with him. I can give you the number if you’d like to use it for journalistic purposes.

  11. William Saturn May 1, 2014

    A journalist from the Canton Repository provided me with his e-mail address. I e-mailed him and I was directed to his Facebook page. There are personal pictures and items dating back before the speech. I have no reason to doubt its authenticity. I also have a phone number for him. Darryl called and talked to him during the BTP presidential nomination.

  12. paulie May 1, 2014

    By publicly verifiable I mean for example a phone number that is listed on his government office website, if he has one.

  13. paulie May 1, 2014

    I don’t know if a facebook account claiming to be him is actually him.

  14. William Saturn May 1, 2014

    Yes. You can contact him on Facebook. Send me a message there and I’ll give you a link.

  15. paulie May 1, 2014

    I’m only repeating what I heard.

    If you’re telling the truth, congratulations! You’ve risen to the level of a parrot.

    Maybe someone was trying to be funny.

    If so, they were escorted out of the comedy club with clear instructions not to come back.

    Regardless, Rocky denied it. Phil Davison could’ve given a boost to any campaign, regardless of party.

    Because ideas are irrelevant.

    Nevertheless, when asked, Davison personally told me he is interested in the Libertarian Party’s 2016 presidential nomination

    Is there publicly verifiable contact information so I can establish that for myself?

    and that is probably a better fit.

    Nope, still not in any way a good fit.

  16. William Saturn May 1, 2014

    I’m only repeating what I heard. Maybe someone was trying to be funny. Regardless, Rocky denied it. Phil Davison could’ve given a boost to any campaign, regardless of party. Nevertheless, when asked, Davison personally told me he is interested in the Libertarian Party’s 2016 presidential nomination and that is probably a better fit.

  17. paulie May 1, 2014

    I’m trying to reach anyone who will listen.

    And failing spectacularly.

    Some local politician’s over the top emotional rant about how loyal he is to the Republican Party makes him a good fit with Rocky Anderson? Come on. Not only does that not pass the laugh test, it’s not even allowed in the laugh test exam room due to poor personal hygiene, lack of properly concealing attire, and inability to hold a pencil.

  18. William Saturn May 1, 2014

    No. This is what I’ve been arguing for the past year or so, at least internally. Phil Davison is the embodiment of free speech. I’ve been trying to capture the essence of this for a Saturn’s Repository article. I’m trying to reach anyone who will listen.

  19. paulie May 1, 2014

    You are reaching, and it’s painfully obvious. Is there someone you think you are persuading?

  20. William Saturn May 1, 2014

    Davison makes some very compelling arguments about campaigns and politics. As he says, he is a pragmatic thinker, and in subsequent interviews, he discusses how he put much thought into writing the speech. If you read the transcript, you will see that it is actually a well-reasoned address that expresses what he wishes to express. It is a perfect mix of emotion and intelligence that I believe will encourage and persuade the next generation. The audience didn’t understand it. Much like the audience didn’t understand Marty McFly’s rendition of “Johnny B. Goode” in “Back to the Future.” “I guess you guys aren’t ready for that yet. But your kids are gonna love it.”

    Look at the substantive points I listed above: when times are bad, it presents a unique opportunity for changes; local politics is where change in the system occurs; there is only one winner in politics; and knowledge is the most important element in any campaign.

    What better way to emphasize the importance of local politics, which few care about, than actually making it interesting? City and village councils would be packed with people if this were commonplace.

    I believe this is the way we need to regain the right to free speech. Make it interesting, but be substantive as well.

  21. paulie May 1, 2014

    I am asking you, since I have heard no such talk about Davison teaming up with Anderson, since it doesn’t seem logically plausible, since I have no idea who your source is (and suspect it is yourself), and since you seem to speculate about the idea in positive terms and seem to suggest that Davison’s rants are well-thought arguments (while providing no evidence that they are).

  22. William Saturn May 1, 2014

    You’d have to ask my source.

  23. paulie May 1, 2014

    Sounds like meaningless pablum and might makes right drivel. How does it have anything to do with Rocky Anderson’s or Justice Party’s issues?

  24. William Saturn May 1, 2014

    1. “In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.”
    2. “Politics is not touch football. Politics is winner take all.”
    3. “I believe in the axiom that all politics is local”
    4. “Knowledge is power. Let’s dab into this knowledge and use it as a tool to win the Treasurer’s office. Let’s use this knowledge not only as a tool, but as A WEAPON!”
    5. “I — USED TO BE AN IDEALISTIC THINKER, I AM NOW A PRAGMATIC THINKER! GOVERNMENT MAY BE ABOUT SERVICE, POLITICS IS ABOUT WINNING!”

  25. paulie May 1, 2014

    What well-thought out arguments?

  26. William Saturn May 1, 2014

    Raw emotion is sometimes the best way to convey a well-thought out argument.

  27. paulie May 1, 2014

    Phil Davison? Now there’s a guy who never put emotions over logic.

  28. William Saturn May 1, 2014

    I heard Phil Davison’s name floated around as a possible running mate for Rocky Anderson in 2012, though Rocky flatly denied it. I wonder how things would have worked out differently had that choice been made.

  29. mARS May 1, 2014

    I thought even Rocky Anderson had given up on them.

  30. Jed Ziggler May 1, 2014

    See, they’re still around.

    Also, this is the second time a Justice Party story was not tweeted out by the @IndPolReport Twitter account. Apparently it doesn’t like the JP.

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