The Green Party of Colorado criticized Governor Jared Polis’ recent praise for the selection of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to lead the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services on Thursday, calling it “bewildering” in a press release. The party is now demanding that Polis clarify his statements.
In the release, the Green Party of Colorado said it was alarmed by commentary made online by Polis, the Democratic governor of Colorado, following President-elect Donald Trump’s announcement of Kennedy as his HHS nominee. Polis posted on X Thursday, “I’m excited by the news that the President-Elect will appoint @RobertKennedyJr to @HHSGov. He helped us defeat vaccine mandates in Colorado in 2019 and will help make America healthy again by shaking up HHS and FDA. I hope he leans into personal choice on vaccines rather than bans.”
“For Governor Polis to endorse President-elect Donald Trump’s nomination of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as Secretary of Health and Human Services knowing Kennedy’s controversial anti-vaccine stance, often shared without evidence, is both concerning and bewildering,” the party said.
The Green Party of Colorado described Polis’ remarks as coming at an “inopportune moment” and characterized them as an “unexplained departure from long-held public health policy.” The party also noted that his statements contradict earlier warnings he had made about “discouraging proven and effective vaccines.” It further shared concerns about resurgences of diseases like measles and polio in communities with lower vaccination rates.
The party is now demanding that Polis clarify his comments, asserting that they contribute to “uncertainty surrounding our state’s future health initiatives.”
“Many, including the Green Party of Colorado, worry this stance could undermine the health of Coloradans,” the statement continued. “As such, the Green Party of Colorado joins our neighbors who support evidence-based public health policy and demand clarification from Governor Polis.”
“December is the 10th month of the year, November is the 9th month, October is the 8th month, and September is the 7th month.”
As it was in better days, and as it should be again. (We also need to use the Julian calendar for those months to fall correctly.)
“Fabulous means something is like a fable.”
“Awful means something is fully deserving of awe.”
As that is literally what those words mean, obviously such is the correct usage.
“Talent is a reference to weight or money.”
“Dilapidated must be used exclusively in reference to stone buildings.”
All other use is metaphorical/figurative. Just like it is now.
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“People who don’t like their government can move to another country”
People don’t have to move because they – not the government – own the land on which they live. So it is the government that can **** right off from pretending to have any authority over people and their property.
“people who don’t like their jobs can quit and seek employment elsewhere while bills continue to come due, they and their kids starve, their vehicles stop functioning due to disrepair and lack of fuel, their utilities are cut off for nonpayment, they are evicted and made homeless etc.
If they manage to find another job, the conditions may well be even worse, or at least no better than whatever pushed them to quit the last one.”
Yes, that is called personal responsibility.
“Without legal protections, quitting jobs can easily become as difficult and dangerous as fleeing slavery or slave nations – company towns, etc.”
As if it is not even more difficult and dangerous WITHIN a system of (il)”legal” “protections”.
“Or, we can dispense with modern industrialized society, and return to the happy days when the average lifespan was in the 30s and starvation was the most common reason for death, often in childhood, along with what today are easily prevented, diagnosed and/or treated diseases.”
Firstly, you seem to have missed the part where I said “outside of the fields of science and technology”. (Imagine what a great and awesome – yes, in the sense of “causing awe” – civilization we could live in, if we combined modern technology and science with pre-industrial society.)
Secondly, that is a gross exaggeration. The average lifespan was in fact closer to sixty than it was to forty. And disease and untreatable injuries were the most common causes of death, certainly not starvation.
And thirdly, even your hyperbole is OBVIOUSLY infinitely preferable to life in any Godforsaken contemporary western society. So, yes please. (Would you deny that the life of the average slave under Byzantine rule was less bad than that of the average person with a moral compass and functioning conscience in any NATO country is today? Surely not.)
“Human population has expanded by an order of magnitude since then. Arable land hasn’t. So, just for starters, it would have to be adjusted back down to that same old carrying capacity through starvation, disease, and war.”
Collectively we humans have enough arable land right now to feed the current global population and to spare, if we had any interest in doing so.
Then remove every statist who would rather die than live in an anarchy from the equation, and the standard of living sky-rockets.
People who don’t like their government can move to another country, just like people who don’t like their jobs can quit and seek employment elsewhere while bills continue to come due, they and their kids starve, their vehicles stop functioning due to disrepair and lack of fuel, their utilities are cut off for nonpayment, they are evicted and made homeless etc.
If they manage to find another job, the conditions may well be even worse, or at least no better than whatever pushed them to quit the last one.
Without legal protections, quitting jobs can easily become as difficult and dangerous as fleeing slavery or slave nations – company towns, etc.
“You load sixteen tons, what do you get
Another day older and deeper in debt
Saint Peter don’t you call me ’cause I can’t go
I owe my soul to the company store” – Tennessee Ernie Ford
Or, we can dispense with modern industrialized society, and return to the happy days when the average lifespan was in the 30s and starvation was the most common reason for death, often in childhood, along with what today are easily prevented, diagnosed and/or treated diseases.
Human population has expanded by an order of magnitude since then. Arable land hasn’t. So, just for starters, it would have to be adjusted back down to that same old carrying capacity through starvation, disease, and war.
According to left-anarchists, then –
December is the 10th month of the year, November is the 9th month, October is the 8th month, and September is the 7th month.
Fabulous means something is like a fable.
Talent is a reference to weight or money.
Aggravated means something is being weighed down.
Dilapidated must be used exclusively in reference to stone buildings.
Awful means something is fully deserving of awe.
… Or we can just use the modern English definitions for words. In which case,
a doctrine urging the abolition of **government** or governmental restraint as the indispensable condition for full social and political liberty. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/anarchism
a political theory holding all forms of **governmental** authority to be unnecessary and undesirable and advocating a society based on voluntary cooperation and free association of individuals and groups https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchism
Anarchism is a political theory, which is skeptical of the justification of authority and power, especially **political** power. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/anarchism/
Anarchism is the belief that the laws and power of **governments** should be replaced by people working together freely. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/anarchism
Anarchism, cluster of doctrines and attitudes centred on the belief that **government** is both harmful and unnecessary. https://www.britannica.com/topic/anarchism
P.S.
“Real world examples are not modern industrialized nations.”
Why do you say that like it’s a bad thing? ‘Reject modernity, return to monke’ :p
Seriously though, industrialization has had plenty of drawbacks, especially socially. And outside of the fields of science and technology, progress has invariably been negative.
“We only get to anarcho syndicalist utopia through a dictatorship of the proletariat”
A dictatorship of the proletariat, or even worse of union bosses, is the opposite of anarchy.
“Anarchism is simply the absence of government.” and “Anarchy is derived from an arkhos, which means without leaders.”
Both translations have precedent, but I would translate it closer to “no (worldly) authority” where ???? is used in particular when referring to human authorities as contrasted by divine authority, authority of the gods, authority of the laws of nature, etc.
“There is no economic system intrinsic to it.”
Well, yes and no. It depends on whether you view capitalism as the default economic system or not an economic system at all. In the absence of any authority enforcing an economic system on people, what occurs naturally IS capitalism. While capitalism is also possible outside of anarchy, inside of anarchy nothing but capitalism is possible.
“capitalist employers are leaders”
No, not at all. Employers are peers, trading partners with who you enter into a contract to trade you labor for their pay. They are not authorities over you: if they don’t like how you perform your work, they can legally sever the contract or illegally withhold your pay.
(It is important to note that conversely, you have the right to sever the contract at any time for any reason or without any reason at all – though if you have been paid an advance for labor not yet performed, it is obviously also illegal for you to keep that.
That might even apply to slavery – which certainly doesn’t sound like it implies equality between parties: some libertarian theorists, such as Walter Block and Martin Urza [and I believe perhaps Rod Dreher(?) Don’t quote me on that one though, ’cause I could be confusing him with someone else], have suggested that every human has the right to sell themself into slavery. The problem with that, is that someone might change their minds, e.g. if treated worse under the contract than anticipated or their health fails, etc.
The resolution proposed by Hans-Hermann Hoppe and others, is that “slave contracts” like any other contract [notably also social contracts for living in communities] can be canceled at any time by either party, with or without penalties for doing so depending on the terms of the contract. But at that point, I have to wonder, what is the difference between a “slave contract” and any other “employment contract”? Does it just not clearly delineate what tasks may be required, or what?
Now in practice obviously this will lead to “might makes right” resolutions of (alleged) contract breach, and likely result in violations of the NAP. But is the cure worse than the disease? I don’t know, because as a Christian I don’t know that the right to sell yourself into slavery is a human right in the first place. It’s an interesting – and heated – debate though.)
Anarchy is derived from an arkhos, which means without leaders. So, left anarchists have a point, given that capitalist employers are leaders. Whether capitalism, or modern civilized society, can exist without a final arbiter to resolve disputes peacefully in a legal framework, is conjecture. Yes, I’ve read various anarchists about how this might work, but those are theories, not proven models. Real world examples are not modern industrialized nations.
Anarchism is simply the absence of government. There is no economic system intrinsic to it. Leftists like to play word games. First they claim, absent evidence and while completely ignoring anarcho-captialist theory to the contrary, that capitalism necessarily requires government. Then they try to redefine anarchism from the absence of government to the absence of all hierarchical power, in order to remove any system with employers from the definition.
Left-anarchists are not capable of debating things like this honestly.
True anarchists should support Trump. We only get to anarcho syndicalist utopia through a dictatorship of the proletariat, and we only get to dictatorship of the proletariat through crisis of capitalism. Trump is that crisis.
Q: Since when does the Green Party have enough support in Colorado to justify a Colorado affiliate?
A: AcKcHyUaLlY, tHe AnTiSeMiTiC cLiMaTe-FaScIsT DiD bEtTeR nAtIoN-wIdE tHaN a DiFfErEnT cHiLd-AbUsInG mEdIcAl-FaScIsT!
This kind of hollow non-sequitur straw-man was to be expected from a solipsistic dungfly which thinks national socialism is not socialism…
So is: AcKcHyUaLlY, aN-cAp Is NoT aNaRcHiSt.
Anarchism always implies capitalism, whereas capitalism will only imply anarchism when taken to its logical extreme (before than come other stages of libertarianism, such as classical liberalism, minarchism and voluntaryism; all of them necessarily capitalist though). That is why anarcho-capitalist is not redundant, but capitalist-anarchist is.
By definition, every anarchist must believe in individual liberty, which necessarily includes individual fiscal, financial and economic liberties. And conversely, if you rejects capitalism, then you do not believe in individual liberty when it comes to fiscal, financial and economic matters, and are not an anarchist.
Thus every anarchist must needs be a capitalist, and nobody rejecting capitalism can be an “actual anarchist”TM. Anti-capitalism and anarchism are an oxymoron.
Edit previous comment; an-cap is not anarchist, I meant. It’s definitely capitalist, which is why actual anarchists laugh about it being anarchist. Hit “send” too late to edit.
Contra certain crickets, the GP finished well ahead of Libertarians nationwide. The rest of the cricket noise is the usual untruths; and “retards” could probably be considered psychological projection. (Oh, while I’m here? “An-cap” is not capitalist; most actual anarchists strongly say so and consider the idea an oxymoron. Shock me.)
https://socraticgadfly.blogspot.com/2024/11/some-non-twosider-election-wrap.html
As for non-crickets comments? Yeah, Stein’s at least played footsie with antivaxxers. And touts the 5G nonsense, and IIRC, was claiming the same about 4G before that.
The Greens miss the point.
Jerry Schultze, aka Jared Polis, not only did not defeat any mandates in Colorado, he encouraged them and denigrated opposition.
We lived through that nonsense. It’s one of the reasons we left Commierado.
The Greens should not be pissed about Jerry supporting RFK2.0. They should be pissed because Jerry is a corrupt chronic liar.
The Greens have truly gone full communist. RFK JR wants to implement some Green ideas, Greens object.
Many people, including some conservatives and at least some people who consider themselves to be libertarians (whatever that means) have doubts or mixed opinions about such things. As for Greens, it’s certainly not surprising that many of them would prefer natural cures, be skeptical of GMOs etc.
Reminder that the Green Party has done its share of the anti-vaxxer work by casting doubt on the safety of vaccines.
“I think there’s no question that vaccines have been absolutely critical in ridding us of the scourge of many diseases — smallpox, polio, etc. So vaccines are an invaluable medication,” Stein said. “Like any medication, they also should be — what shall we say? — approved by a regulatory board that people can trust. And I think right now, that is the problem. That people do not trust a Food and Drug Administration, or even the CDC for that matter, where corporate influence and the pharmaceutical industry has a lot of influence.” – 3 time Green Presidential nominee Jill Stein.
She repeated the claim multiple times. Here’s another quote “In most countries, people trust their regulatory agencies and have very high rates of vaccination through voluntary programs. In the US, however, regulatory agencies are routinely packed with corporate lobbyists and CEOs. So the foxes are guarding the chicken coop as usual in the US. So who wouldn’t be skeptical?” – Jill Stein
She’s skirting the edge. Not outright saying vaccines are bad, but implying that most currently in use vaccines can’t be trusted. At least, in the US. Vaccines in other countries are fine. People can trust vaccines in foreign countries. They are frequently the same vaccine, but they cannot be trusted in the US while they can be elsewhere. RFK would be proud of the confusion, fear, and doubt Jill Stein was spewing.
Stein has also taken the positions that GMOs should be temporarily banned until they can absolutely be proven safe and that wireless signals should be banned from schools because they give people cancer. RFK has said similar things about GMOs and EMFs causing cancer. Stein and RFK are two peas in a pod when it comes to this stuff.
Colorado has a Green Party?! The Green Party is competitive enough among junkies and perverts to justify an affiliate? And they think they’re in any position to make “demands” of their fellow totalitarian, far-left extremist governor? LOL! LMAO even.
How out of touch can one get? This is no less silly than Occasional-Cortex going after Stein on Instagram, or the EU Greens urging Stein to drop out and endorse Harris.
“For Governor Polis to endorse […] Robert F. Kennedy Jr. […] is both concerning and […] could undermine the health of Coloradans.”
‘So pretentiousness. Such self-important. Wow.’ – Department Of Governmental Efficiency, probably.
I previously said the Democrats and the Greens are completely interchangeable (national) socialist workers’ parties. While that is largely true, it doesn’t do justice to the Greens impressive feat of managing to consistently be even more retarded if not malevolent than most Democrats who are not of “The Squad” variety.
With regard to the “anthropogenic climate change” hoax, that obviously comes with the turf. But then there’s their total commitment to antisemitism. And apparently now their unlimited worship of medical fascism.
Truly they are a bunch of mindless jerks who’ll be the first against the wall when their own revolution comes – if it ever materializes, that is.