Chuck Baldwin: Hutaree Update

Posted by 2008 Constitution Party Presidential candidate Chuck Baldwin at

With much media fanfare, 9 members of a Michigan militia were arrested last March and charged with “seditious conspiracy”–specifically, plotting to murder law enforcement officers. Ostensibly, this was supposed to precipitate some kind of wholesale revolt against the government. Question: Have any of you heard anyone from the propaganda press corps (national news media) tell you what has been happening with this case? No? Did you not wonder why? Well, I’ll tell you why: the case has fallen apart.

The first indication of the Feds’ case going bad was a local report in the Toledo (Ohio) Blade, dated April 28, 2010. “An FBI agent who led the investigation of nine Michigan militia members charged with trying to launch war against the federal government couldn’t recall many details of the two-year probe yesterday during questioning by defense lawyers.

“Even the judge who must decide whether to release the nine until trial was puzzled.

“‘I share the frustrations of the defense team . . . that she doesn’t know anything,’ U.S. District Judge Victoria Roberts said after agent Leslie Larsen confessed she hadn’t reviewed her notes recently and couldn’t remember specific details of the case.”

See the report at:

Can you believe testimony such as this was given in a court of law by a supposedly intelligent federal officer–an agent who had supposedly compiled the evidence that was used to arrest and incarcerate these supposedly “dangerous militia members”? If it wasn’t so serious, this would be a joke!

Remember that it was a federal informant who had infiltrated the group and even offered to teach Hutaree members how to make improvised explosive devices. On this point, William Grigg wrote, “While federal prosecutors have provided ample evidence that members of the Hutaree are passionately anti-government–what decent person ISN’T–they haven’t been able to demonstrate that the group did anything more than engage in survivalist training and indulge in apocalyptic rhetoric.” (Emphasis in the original.)

As a result, Judge Roberts found the government’s case sorely lacking. “Discussions about killing local law enforcement officers–and even discussions about killing members of the judicial branch of government–do not translate to conspiring to overthrow, or levy war against, the United States government,” she wrote, ordering that the Hutaree suspects be released on bail.

About which, Grigg wrote, “Since the federal case against the Hutaree rests entirely on what was SAID by the suspects, rather than anything specific that was DONE by them, it’s difficult to see what’s left of it [the case].” (Emphasis in the original.)

See Grigg’s column at:

But then again, punishing people because of their speech or political associations seems to be exactly where America is heading.

Remember that the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is famous for supplying Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Fusion Centers and State law enforcement agencies with warnings against people due to their political beliefs (pro-life, pro-Second Amendment, anti-United Nations, anti-New World Order, or anti-illegal immigration, for example), their associations (Libertarian or Constitution parties, for example), or even who they voted for (Ron Paul, Bob Barr, or Chuck Baldwin, to be precise). Previous reports even identified people as “dangerous” because of the books they were reading. (Tell me, again: this is the United States and not Nazi Germany, right?)

Now consider the statements of US Congressman Andre Carson (D-Indiana), who likens Tea Party protesters to “a terrorist threat.”

Washington Times reporter Kerry Picket recorded Rep. Carson as he explained it all:

Kerry Picket (Washington Times): “Do you think the people outside [Tea Party protesters] are generally dangerous or no?”

Rep. Carson: “Oh, absolutely. I worked in homeland security. I’m from intelligence, and I’ll tell you, one of the largest threats to our internal security . . . I mean terrorism has an Islamic face, but it really comes from racial supremacist groups. (inaudible) It’s the kind of thing we keep a threat assessment on record [for].”

Larry O’Connor at then wrote, “And we can now see this two pronged message continuing in the narrative from Democratic politicians and the media: The Tea Party protests are really about white rage and they are sowing the seeds for domestic terrorism. This was the message delivered by Rep. Carson that afternoon and that is the message the media has run with.

“Only problem is, we can’t find any proof to back up Rep. Carson’s story.”

See the report at:

The truth is, if the federal government and its prostitutes at the SPLC have their way, ANYONE COULD BE IMPRISONED FOR ANYTHING! Don’t believe physicians should destroy human life in the womb? You’re a terrorist. Don’t like the United Nations? You’re a terrorist. Believe immigrants should come through the front door when migrating to America? You’re a terrorist. Voted for Ron Paul? You’re a terrorist. Believe in the return of Jesus Christ? You’re a terrorist. Ad infinitum. Ad nauseam.

Again, maybe this helps explain why all those (non-existent) FEMA camps are being built!

In my initial column on the Hutaree raid, I wrote, “Did members of the Hutaree intend to carry out aggressive violence against law enforcement personnel? I have no idea. Until this story broke in the national media, I had never heard of this group. I will wait for the facts to come out–if indeed the federal government and national media even allow the facts to come out.”

See my column at:

Well, the facts are beginning to come out: The FBI agent who brought the charges against these self-professed militia members made a complete fool of herself under oath in a court of law. She presented zero evidence to indicate that the Hutaree posed an imminent threat to anybody. Now that the judge has released the Hutaree members from jail and rebuked the agent for presenting such inept testimony, we’ll see if the Feds decide to pursue the case any further. Again, as Will Grigg said, “Since the federal case against the Hutaree rests entirely on what was SAID by the suspects, rather than anything specific that was DONE by them, it’s difficult to see what’s left of it [the case].”

However, the bigger question is, How far will Big-Government toadies try to take this Nazi-like philosophy: that anyone who believes in limited government and freedom, and who rejects their sanctimonious attitude and bullying is a “dangerous terrorist”? And even greater is the question, How long will the American people put up with it?

7 thoughts on “Chuck Baldwin: Hutaree Update

  1. Cody Quirk

    Unlike the situation back in the mid 90’s, the threat of “Right-wing terrorism” is greatly over-exaggerated; on lot of these present militia groups are law-abiding and are very self-conscious about their public image.

  2. Mark Seidenberg

    Cody Quirk,

    Your Great Grandmother you informed me about, was that your mother’s maternal grandma?

    Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg

  3. Kelly

    Yeah, they are really drawing this out and wasting tax payer money on this big time. The FBI are willing to let it go all the way to the Supreme Court. They were lucky enough to have a judge out of Michigan that truely believed in our constitution. But now let see what kind of system we really have. Not to mmmention how these guys are being treated in jail. Thats the question for what talking so BS, and thats all it was.

  4. William

    Please! This is Zionism at work, not Nazism. Everyone in our government and legal system is a Zionist, not a Nazi. To call what is happening “Nazi” only points the American people in the wrong direction. Today, the “Nazis” are critics of the Zionists.

  5. Cody Quirk

    The problem isn’t “Zionists” the problem are the elites in power that come from internationalist and socialist groups, and these elites come from all different backgrounds and ethnicities, but especially from the wealthy Anglo-Saxon upper class with ties to Britain.

  6. Don Lake and the seeds for west coast scandal .....

    ———- WELL MAY BE NOT


    Posted by: ros at January 22, 2010 05:06 PM

    Why is anyone wasting time writing about this Non-person, Chelene Nightingale? She is a nobody…and a strange one at that. I heard a radio interview on some obscure radio blog show…and she sounded nuttier than a fruitcake.

    “I am a individualist” she proclaimed…when asked about healthcare she starts some rant about Holistic medicine..and people need to not go to doctors. her whole persona seems to be that she once was in a hate group SOS and would go after illegals!

    Flush it!! She’s a joke candidate. I would vote for zsa zsa’a husband before even EVER considering this flake.

    Posted by: Richard Deckert at February 19, 2010 04:19 PM

    Its funny you bring up the hypocrisy of this candidate. How dare she speak about our schools WHEN HER OWN KID DOES NOT ATTEND PUBLIC SCHOOLS. She home schools.

    She has not a clue about the realities of the world because she cocoons herself with goonies that just nod their empty heads in agreement. Whack -a doodle!!! Total fringe extremist……

    Posted by: susan Thomas at February 21, 2010 03:08 PM

    I used to know her chelene Nightingale but she did some stuff that was NOT OKAY!! nOW SHE PRETENDS TO

    ..which we won’t because she is not qualified to be a governor. Why doesn’t she just get a real job instead of this fakery….

    Posted by: jimbo at April 10, 2010 07:13 PM

    Just read the article about Chelene Nightingale’s filing for bankruptcy last year. Geesh why would someone with that bankground run for State Government??

    and Gov to boot!!! How will they explain away this filing? Don’t these parties vet their candidates?

    Posted by: Jimbo at April 24, 2010 03:16 PM

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