Alan Keyes Says Charlie Crist Isn’t Conservative

Alan Keyes today offered his opinion of sitting Florida Governor and Senatorial candidate, Charlie Crist. It is rare to see the press quoting one third party or independent candidate commenting on another.

Best known for his presidential campaigns and his contest with Barack Obama for the U.S. Senate seat in Illinois, Dr. Alan Keyes commented today on Gov. Charlie Crist and conservatism.

Asked if Gov. Crist ever fought for conservative ideals, Keyes said, “In my opinion, no he hasn’t.”

Saying Crist was a RINO — Republican In Name Only — even before he left the GOP to continue his bid for the U.S. Senate as an independent, Keyes said there was a large constituency for true conservatism, fighting for smaller government and the rights laid out in the Declaration of Independence, in Florida.

“Crist paid lip service to that conservatism,” said Keyes. “He didn’t follow through on it.”

Keyes was the Presidential candidate of the America’s Independent Party in 2008 after he failed to secure the Presidential nomination of the Constitution Party. The America’s Independent Party was founded after Keyes lost the nomination of the Constitution Party, in 2008.

54 thoughts on “Alan Keyes Says Charlie Crist Isn’t Conservative

  1. Trent Hill Post author

    I still can’t access it. But I’ll pull down that part of the article.

  2. Mark Seidenberg

    California picked Alan Keyes first in 2008. He was the pick of the American Independent Party
    before the America’s Independent Party pick him.

    Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman,
    American Independent Party

  3. Don Grundmann

    Alan Keyes is a conservative in name only with the reality being that he is an ultra corrupt liar himself as documented at TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com. Keyes is a mole working within the conservative movement, both Republican and 3rd party, to destroy it. He is a fake.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party

  4. Don Grundmann

    Mark Seidenberg is an agent of the Anti-Defamation League ( ADL ) and the Southern Poverty Law Center ( SPLC ); 2 groups well documented to be involved in domestic espionage and working in conjunction with Alan Keyes for the destruction of the conservative movement in the nation. The personal corruption of Mark Seidenberg is documented at TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party

  5. Rob

    The blog post is from May 18. Kevin Derby of the Sunshine State News has been excellent on third parties and independents in Florida.

  6. JT

    Trent: “Don’t you guys get tired?”

    Haha. Doesn’t seem like they do, does it?

  7. Trent Hill Post author

    Vaughn,

    His perception of conservative hinges solely upon national defense and social issues. Economic issues do not matter.

  8. Mark Seidenberg

    Trent Hill,

    Don Grundmann can not separate real life from the Matrix in his mind. He thinks that he is Keanu Reeves movie caracter’s alter ego. In his mind ADL and SPLC are part of Wachowski Brothers Matrix trilogy.

    Don Grundmann needs to wake up and get out of
    the Matrix. Neo is dead. I am not in the Matrix
    with Don Grundmann (all this is in his mind).

    Don Grundmann has not been on the State Central Committee of the American Independent
    Party since September 2, 2008. He lost his race
    for “Nominee Delegate” this year to Ed Noonan.

    In 2012 there will no longer be any Nominee Delegates in the AIP. He will have to win the
    November, 2012 general election to become
    a delegate to the 2014 AIP State Convention
    as a Holdover Delegate, because of the passing
    of Prop. 14.

    Don Grundmann has never been the Vice Chairman of the American Independent Party.
    The American Independent Party has never been a branch of the Constitution Party. Prior
    to the vote of the AIP State Central Committee
    on June 27, 2008, the AIP was an affiliate of the
    Constitution Party, but the AIP moved forward
    and on June 27, 2008, became an affiliate of the
    America’s Independent Party of Fenton, Michigan. The Constitution Party is passed history.

    Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, American Independent Party.

  9. Vaughn

    How about these right wing minor parties are just as fragmented as the revolutionary parties of the left, and I am just as confused because they use similar names as well.

  10. Trent Hill Post author

    Mark,

    I have no idea why you addressed that to me.

    Vaughn,

    Actually–rightwing parties have typically been more unified in the last 60 years. The current fracturing is sort of the exception.

  11. ........ Don Lake and 'Politicshilliesisms'

    Trent Hill // Jun 15, 2010:
    “Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman, [California] American Independent Party ……. no idea why you addressed that to me.”

    [a] you are a known INDEPENDENT Political Report modirator

    [b] you are acting as if you are biased FOR Nightingale, Grundmann, Nevadian Gody Quirk and other off the wall, virulent, unfair, unethical political thugs ……..

    [c] your lack of complaints against ‘no bi line’ sneakie snarkie Quirky Boy and others have not gone unnoticed ………..

    [d] your ‘pile on’ mentality against Lake and others have not gone unnoticed ……….

    [e] amazing, you engage in doubtful behavior in the shark pool of INDEPENDENT Political Report and then you wonder why the bite marks ………

    [f] may be a (……….) plea for a little more fair ness in the future ?????????? Propagandize under your own name, you kreep!

  12. OReaLY Factor

    Is this the same Alan Keyes that continues to try to overturn the results of the election through all manner of legal challenges and fantasies? The same Keyes that ignores the clear language of the Constitution in the hopeless search for one Judge that might also be willing to ignore the clear language?

    That Alan Keyes is now declaring who is a “True Conservative”?

  13. Don Grundmann

    ” Don’t you guys get tired?”

    Response – The great evil of Keyes; backed by his controllers/controllers and carried on through his lietenants of Robinson, Seidenberg, and Noonan; has incalculably damaged the 3rd party conservative movement within the nation already and they are foaming-at-the-mouth in anticipation of delivering a death blow to the movement. S0 – NO – I don’t get tired fighting such evil no matter what temporary victories they may gain. The endless lies of Seidenberg as with his above post are part of such continuous attack via many avenues to achieve 2 purposes – 2) the enrichment of the traitors themselves and 1) the victory of their controllers in finishing our Republic once and for all. They are the most crystallized representation of evil in our political system; minimally as corrupt as Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and such other lackeys of the Plantation Masters of our nation.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party

  14. Don Grundmann

    One of the usages of Keyes is as an agent of the Republican Party in its work to destroy its potential enemies such as strangling the Constitution Party in its cradle so that it doesn’ t repeat how the Reform Party hurt the Republicans. He is also, and on a deeper level, a strategic asset for destroying the conservative movement since, on the surface, he appears to support it. He works in conjunction with those who support his aims and those of his controllers. Since the Republicans are willing to send moles such as Keyes into the CP in order to kill it he recognizes that domestic groups such as the Anti-Defamation League ( ADL ) and the Southern Poverty Law Center ( SPLC ) are his friends since they support his objective of destroying the 3rd party conservative movement. That is why he works with other agents such as Mark Seidenberg and Mark Robinson toward that end. Those who control our nation, whom I refer to as the ” Plantation Masters ” and who are the funders of the ADL and the SPLC, must stop true conservatism in order to continue their usage of America to fight proxy wars on their behalf, continue the monetary slavery of the nation via the Federal Reserve System, and continue the corruption of the federal income tax via the American Mafia; i.e.; the IRS. Keyes is hence a key agent within the conservative movement to, as a mole, internally destroy any developing opposition to the Plantation Masters in these areas. His lieutenants ( Robinson, Seidenberg, and Noonan ) are more than happy to aid the Plantation Masters in return for their own personal ” 30 pieces ” which they receive for their treason. As in recent examples of Robinson publicly stating that he opposed Prop. 14 while privately celebrating it and working toward its passage and Noonan claiming to be against the FED while working to destroy the AIP and the CP as political forces that could and would oppose it the duplicity and treachery of Keyes and his lieutenants is that they say one thing and do the opposite; just as their Plantation Master controllers do. The result is the advancement of the enemies of our nation and the crippling and death of conservatism such as the slow collapse, despite claims to the contrary, of the Tea Party movement which they are also dedicated to destroying.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party

  15. Real California Conservtaive

    Don Grundman is absolutely right. He is doing a lot to protect the good citizens and especially children of America.
    I also believe that Ralph Nader is a major part of this corruption conspiracy of Alan Keyes, Mark Seidenberg, ADL, etc.

  16. Don grundman does not protect my children

    Don grundman, a man of age 60 that does not HAVE CHILDREN…should take an interest in children…WHY????
    Why do grown men act to “protect” children…yeah uh huh under the guise of “protection” we should at all time keep our children away from “the protector” Grundman. (perv)

  17. Don grundman does not protect my children

    Thoes that shout the loudest about child molesting are usually guilty! Okay thats the fact remember that when this pig talks about children.

  18. Cody Quirk

    California picked Alan Keyes first in 2008. He was the pick of the American Independent Party
    before the America’s Independent Party pick him.

    = Yeah, Ed Noonan made sure of that, regardless of who the AIP picked, he pulled a ‘Gadianton Robber’ to make sure Keyes was on the California ballot.

  19. Don Grundmann

    Mark The SeidenRAT, the real writer of comment #21 above and whose corruption is documented at TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com., is an open agent of organizations dedicated to attacking the children of our nation. Specifically the Anti-Defamation League is the national force behind what is on the surface called the ” Safe Schools Program ” but is in actuality designed to socially engineer our children, starting in kindergarten, to accept and approve homosexuality as normal and natural. This is in effect a program of mass mental molestation of the children of our nation. The destruction of the 3rd party conservative movement in our nation, a goal of Seidenberg and his handlers/controllers, is a key part of the victory plan of the enemies of our children and nation.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party

  20. ........ Don Lake and 'Politicshilliesisms'

    [………as I sit here watching ‘South Park’ (and ‘Towelie”) during the Presidential propaganda, er, ah, um, speach]

    [Thud ………. Obama, My Yokohoma Momma, is a dud!]

    Vaughn // Jun 15, 2010:
    “It’s the spirit that counts.”

    [Well, with lying thugs like Quirk, Nightingale, Quirk, ctweber, Grundmann, Quirk, Hill, Philies, Quirk, W. A. R. I would take ethics, logic, and honesty over just ‘spirit’! ——– I hear that Tojo and the early century Japanese Imperial military were very ‘spirited’ as they murdered dissidents (left, right, and center) as early as 1921 ……..]

    [How ever brainiac Space Cadet Captain Cody Banks Quirk has forced me into submission: I am a perverted homo sexual, and I need to jump up, run to the pink SUV, try to ‘recruit’ some straight kids on the way over and then to the elementary school and teach sexual fisting ………]

  21. Don Grundmann

    ” I would take ethics, logic, and honesty ”

    Response – All things which are on the other side of the universe from ” The Fool ” who is allergic to them.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party

  22. ........ Don Lake and 'Politicshilliesisms'

    Real California Conservtaive // Jun 15, 2010:
    ” ……….. Grundman is absolutely right. He is doing a lot to protect the good citizens and especially children of America.” (sounds like ‘Gail 4 Rails’ pal the unethical ‘Green Party (NOT!) Conservative’ and or ‘Reform Party Conservative’ con man …… actually of the fakey dakey Independent Green Party of Virginia …….)

    “I also believe that Ralph Nader is a major part of this corruption conspiracy ” (is that that dirty rotten, GOP neo con mole Ralph Nader ?????? Spot on: yeah got him! [sure] )

  23. Cody Quirk

    I am a perverted homo sexual, and I need to jump up, run to the pink SUV, try to ‘recruit’ some straight kids on the way over and then to the elementary school and teach sexual fisting .

    = At least you have finally admitted it here. Grundmann is indeed a true moral Christian man compared to a sick mass of garbage such as you.

  24. Vaughn

    You used one of my quotes from another post?

    Pink Suv? You haven’t heard Lewis Black’s ‘gay banditos’ bit, have you?

  25. ........ Thank You from Don Lake

    # 20 Real California Conservative (and alter ego of [fake] ) Green Party Conservative and (fake) Independent Green Party of Virginia // Jun 15, 2010:

    ” ……….. Grundman is absolutely right.” [even when He is wrong ??????? Even when he is doing a little to protect the good citizens and especially children of America.” ]

    ***********************
    #30 Cody Banks Quirk // Jun 16, 2010:

    Quirkie Boy: “At least you have finally admitted it here. [Doctor Donald] Grundmann is indeed a true moral Christian man …….”

    [whom did absolutely nothing with recent West Coast thugs! The successful recall of Governor Gray Davis ???? The outing of mega monster extortionist View Nam air ace, ( whom talked alot like Grundmann does now): federal felon Puke Cunningham! Kiddie Porn King and fake veterans advocate (per Gerimondi staffer) Wade Sanders!] and yet another federal felon! ]

    [That’s AOK Cody Banks, you can leave the heavy lifting to legitimate hero[s] like Lake / ‘a sick mass of garbage’ ……….]

    *****************
    #31 Vaughn // Jun 16, 2010:
    Pink Suv? [yep, my poking the low IQ ‘bear’ for months and years. This guy has a terminal degree and is literally sliding, stumbling, bumbling into Corcoran or Leavenworth ……]

    You haven’t heard Lewis Black’s ‘gay banditos’ schitck? [Nope, sticking with the pink SUVs —– for now]

  26. Mark Seidenberg

    To Don Lake

    Yesterday, the Executive Committee of the
    American Independent Party voted you Don
    Lake in as a member of the State Central Committee of the American Independent Party.

    The seat on the SCC is for the remainder of the
    term for the spot that was once held by Don J.
    Grundmann for the 2006 primary election.

    History of that SCC seat. Dr. Don J. Grundmann
    won the primary in 2006 for the nomination of
    US Senate in the AIP. No one ran against him
    so he won that primary seat. That made him a
    “Nominee Delegate” to the AIP Convention on
    September 2, 2006 in the City of Rancho Cordova, Sacramento County, California.
    However, on September 3, 2006, Don Grundmann was elected to a two-year term as
    a National Committeeman at the AIP State
    Central Committee. Upon being elected as
    a National Committeeman, Don J. Grundmann
    vacated his other status as a “Nominee Delegate”
    and it became open.

    Therefore, the Executive Committee of the American Independent Party filled that spot
    that Dr. Don J. Grundmann vacated with Don
    Lake.

    Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman,
    American Independent Party

  27. Cody Quirk

    Yesterday, the Executive Committee of the
    American Independent Party voted you Don
    Lake in as a member of the State Central Committee of the American Independent Party.

    = Your faction just killed any credibility you guys had, congrats.

  28. ........ Love letter to Space Cadet Captain Cody Banks Quirk [Lake]

    [a] if you think Two Marks and an Ed lack creditability then that is high praise indeed!

    [b] You are the guy that invents ‘Constitution Party of California’ —— for non existent ‘legal purposes’!

    [c] You [and Grunt Grundmann] did nothing to spot light the Kiddie Porn King in John Gerimandi’s (sp) San Diego County office, incarcerated felon Wade Sanders.

    [d] Leave the real work to real adults!

  29. LibertarianGirl

    um I dont put Cody in even the same universe as Grundman , Grundman is a lunatic , Cody at least makes sense , never heard him say they are fisting kindergardners LOL

  30. Don Grundmann

    ” 39 LibertarianGirl // Jun 27, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    um I dont put Cody in even the same universe as Grundman , Grundman is a lunatic , Cody at least makes sense , never heard him say they are fisting kindergardners LOL”

    Response – LibertarianGirl – I know not to expect accuracy or sanity from you but I comment simply to set the record straight. I already know that you will ignore the following comment and prattle on your merry way – I never said that kndergarteners were being ” fisted.” I said, and a Mount Everest of facts found at MassResistance.org backs me up, that the homosexual movement was invited to an ELEMENTARY school class in Massachusetts where they proceded to teach, talk about, and proclaim the joys of said ” fisting.” When I brought forth this information I was attacked by ” The Fool ” ( and you of course ) as having no information to back up what I said, yada, yada, yada. In other words you and ” The Fool ” simply ignore the documented facts and continue on your merry way. Additionally ” The Fool ” sent me, via conventional mail, a totally insane and sick article which claimed that ” fisting ” was both taught in and justified by the Bible.

    Only a short time ago ( 40, 50 years?? ) the idea of teaching homosexuality in any form to children, much less going into the public schools to do so, would have been considered totally impossible and the protagonists of such an evil deed would have been considered as enemies of the community and either jailed, forced out of town, or both. Fast forward to today when apologists for the emotional soul pathology of homosexuality, like you and ” The Fool,” openly promote the sickness and attack anyone who stands in defense of children against such attack. Taken on a time line into the future 50 years from now we will see, unless they are stopped, the open molestation and sexualization of children from their earliest moments, a philosophical position advocated by the homosexual community at multiple times and locations inclusive of today. The active form of such attack at the current moment comes from the intense warfare against children in kindergarten being conducted by the homosexual comminity. When such a time of mass acttacks against children comes will LibertarianGirl or ” The Fool ” make the slightest complaint? They don’t even defend children now so the idea that they will in the future? Not a chance. Simply to be accused of ” homophobia ” at such a moment will stop them in their tracks ( if they ever awoke to even consider opposing such actions; extremely unlikely in itself ) since protection of their ( your ) ego is the most important thing ( numbers 1 through 99 of their top priorities ) in their existence and the protection of children will never make the ” Top 100 ” of their concerns. Hence, unless evil is stopped, the mass molestation of the children of the nation is only a matter of time and at the head of the parade will be ” The Fool ” and LibertarianGirl.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party

  31. Don Grundmann

    ” intolerance and hate ‘ – The marketing program words of Social Engineering spouted by the drones who lead the way in the monstrous attack upon our children that is occuring. This is the perfect affirmation of everything which I wrote of above. The galactic importance of protecting your ego will lead you to not only sacrifice the children of everyone else but your own as well. The Plantation Masters of our nation know how fantastically easy it is to control the populace and even have them annihilate their future via the manipulation of their ego by simple marketing phrases. What was once universally understood to be an outright attack upon children is now celebrated as ” diversity ” and ” tolerance ” by the drones who will sacrifice their children and the whole nation so long as they ” lool good ” doing it

  32. ........ Love letter to Darrel Castle and the ole California American Independent Party [Lake]

    “sent me, [Lake: Crazy Assed Doctor Donald Grundmann] via conventional mail, a totally insane and sick article which claimed that ” fisting ” was both taught in and justified by the Bible. …… ”

    [a] four or five such articles, and a love note *sarcasm* mentioning that out side of ‘stand alone’ crazies from the North East there were no other indications of fisting instructions in public schools. Just MassResistance.org and Grundmann.

    [b] I have never promoted ‘fisting’ being taught to minors, but then Quirk and Grundmann ‘make it up as they go along”

    [c] So you thing Cody Banks is half way sane ???????? I invite you to observe and consider.

    [d] I once publicly endorsed Grundmann and thot him odd ——– but with a toe or two on the planet. Now look at his state ments! Sad, so sad!

  33. Cody Quirk

    Personally, I really don’t give 2 shits on what happens in the bedroom between 2 consenting adults.
    But what I do have a problem with are gays thinking they deserve more rights and privileges then heterosexuals & regular people and trying to shove their agenda down the throats of schoolchildren.

    I do believe in leaving gay marriage to the states to decide, but I don’t want it here in Nevada.

    I’m ok with some gay people that are modest and respectable in their behavior and character, like Richard Winger, but the others that like to flaunt their sexuality and immodesty all over the place and play the persecution complex- I do not like and think they are the scum of the earth.

  34. ........ Love letter to Quirkie Durkie [Lake]

    Cody Quirk // Jun 27, 2010 at 9:10 pm
    “………. Lake is a big time pervert ………”

    [Lake: *snicker and laugh* especially ’bout a conventional straight white Mid Western male like me! Never smoked any thing, yet I am a pervert. Never been drunk / drugged, yet I am a pervert. Sexual virgin FOR EVER, or what seemed that way, yet …….. Marriage to divorcee with child in late 20s, yet …….. ROTC Scholarship cadet, military officer, school teacher, yet ………..]]

    [To Lib Grrl: Plz feel free to re-evaluate Mister Quirk. IMNSHO, not as bombastic as Leavenworth bound Gruntman, but just as illogical! Again, look and learn!]

  35. LibertarianGirl

    CQ_Personally, I really don’t give 2 shits on what happens in the bedroom between 2 consenting adults.
    But what I do have a problem with are gays thinking they deserve more rights and privileges then heterosexuals & regular people

    me_ I agree , I dont think any sex pref, any religion , any color ,or any minority should receive any privileges any individual doesnt recieve , personally Id like to see government outa licensing marriage altogether…

    CQ_I do believe in leaving gay marriage to the states to decide, but I don’t want it here in Nevada.

    me_ disagree , our economy is one of the worst , legalize marijuana and gay marriage , problem solved:)

    CQ_I’m ok with some gay people that are modest and respectable in their behavior and character, like Richard Winger,

    me_ Richard Wingers gay?

    CQ_but the others that like to flaunt their sexuality and immodesty all over the place

    me_ what about hetero’s that do the same thing?

  36. LibertarianGirl

    Don Lake , I may not agree with Cody , but he is sane IMO and exercising his right to believe what he chooses, his discourse is generally polite and intelligent , plus he’s a homeboy( from NV) . I think Ill keep him on my “friendly list”…

  37. ........ Love letter to Saint Richard Winger [Lake]

    [a] Cody Banks says that you like to kiss other guys! Hmmmm, now I have a hint at why you wanted to drop by when you were in San Diego County.

    [b] Ah, you remembered the tales of my little bed room and the semi giant ‘California King’ bed, and having to take the closet [no pun intended] doors off.

    [c] Thx Tish for ‘scoring’ the bed set for me / us!

    [d] John ‘Juddas’ Coffey would even stay over and ‘sleep’ with Tishie Poo and my self. Later on, instead of quietly leaving, he would, time after time, wake us up before departing! He kept on doing so in spite of our rude gestures, questions of his man hood, and doubts on his parentage.

    [e] Well, any who, what ever your private and peaceable sexual indications are, you are still invited in. Just be aware that Tish, Musetta, Barbara, and Heather may camp out near by in observation of the safety and security of my …………..

    [f] *humor, humor, an attempt there of …..* any way, on the serious side, Johnny Poo was my main cheap book conduit. With him out of the picture, I will not be sending / dropping off poly sci texts or other public admin books as I have in the past. Again, these are for any purpose you can think of: gifts, promotionals, sales ……

  38. Cody Quirk

    Yes Richard is gay, he and his partner already have a legal marriage since they tied the knot during the time it was legal in Cali.

    I’m ok with pot getting legalized, but not gay marriage, I also don’t like us having civil unions- but it’s not too much of a priority for me and the party; there are more important things to fight against.

    And yes, I am more moderate and reasonable then Don G. is on the matter of homosexuality, though he does bring up some good points on a few things.

  39. ........ Love letter to biased Lib Grrl [Lake]

    again, what ever your kin ship with the oldest living eleven year old, Cody Banks, I ask you to look at the on going lack of logic, leading to out right false hoods.

    Do you approve of his will ful, sneakie tactics like constantly ‘forgetting’ bi lines. The guy is a kkkreep, a liar, a zealot whom any tactic is AOK as he (and Gruntman) are the key holders on the one and only and unique ‘truth’! [or not!]

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