Jimmy McMillan To Run For President in 2012

From the New York Observer:

Rent Is Too Damn High gubernatorial candidate Jimmy McMillan, fresh off a surprising 40,000 vote finish,  appeared on the Libertarian Internet talk show “Revolution Radio” and announced that he will run for President in 2012.

Says McMillan, “If you don’t do your job right, I am coming at you. I know Barack Obama is an Internet hog. I know he knows that I am out there. But what he hasn’t heard yet is that Jimmy McMillan is running for President of the United States of America. Well Barack Obama, you might as well turn your Internet up. Go to the website, President. I want you to look at all the hits Sarah Palin got. I ate her up.Look at all the hits John McCain got. I chewed him up.  Look at all the hits Hillary Clinton had, I swallowed her, chewed her up and spit her out. Jimmy McMillan is well-known.”

McMillan later added that he just registed as a Republican to avoid, presumably, a costly primary fight with Obama.

You can find the interview at the link. The Rent Is Too Damn High Party does not retain ballot access in any state.  McMillan has been busy since the election- he has become a pitchman at an Internet auction site, performed at Club Europa, filed a lawsuit against NY State Board of Elections for excluding “Damn” on his ballot line, and become the subject of a documentary.

37 thoughts on “Jimmy McMillan To Run For President in 2012

  1. Robert Capozzi

    Forget 2 chickens in every pot.

    Jimmy Mac’s gonna get us BREAKFAST, LUNCH and DINNER.

    Oh, this is gonna be goooooood!

  2. Richard Winger

    The Board of Elections did not prevent the word “damn” from appearing on the ballot. He was on the ballot in November 2010 as the nominee of the “Rent is 2 Damn High” Party.

  3. MMP James Ogle [Free Parliamentary]

    GoNott Advertise would like to sponsor a debate between him and the Green-Pot-Christ presidential candidate.

    If anyone has his phone number, please contact forward it so we can get this going ASAP. We have other Republicans for president who would like to face-off, and will likely accept his challenge.

  4. Daniel Surman

    The two runs he made for Governor and Mayor before that had had damn excluded from the name. That was his ballot label in the latest gubernatorial election.

  5. Bryan

    I think I’ll start a petetion drive in South Carolina to get Rent is 2 Damn High on the next ballot. If people will vote for Alvin Greene, they will vote for damn near anybody.

  6. Kimberly Wilder

    LP Watcher – Your comments at 6 are a little off the mark. In NY, McMillan received 40,000 votes for Governor. That is a lot of people taking him seriously…okay, maybe not the average. But, he cannot simply be dismissed. He was a phenomena in NY, and proved he can get actual votes.

    Perhaps you should study the situation again, and comment on his issues, or his actual, statistical chances, in light of the known figure of 40,000 for Governor.

  7. LP watcher

    #8

    OK so somebody heard of him in New York. That is fine for statewide in NY, but what about 50 other states.

    LP needs somebody with name recognition and principles. Otherwise, it’s less than 1% of the vote yet AGAIN.

  8. Robert Milnes

    The LP & GP have all they need to win. All they need to do is coordinate their bloc vote & agree on a fusion ticket.
    Instead you waste time on nonsense.
    McMillan & Ron Paul; are equally a waste of time.
    You can bet Obama et al & the republicans et al are not wasting time on nonsense when it comes to elections.

  9. Gene Berkman

    Kimberly – he received 40,000 votes in New York in an election that everyone knew would be won by Andrew Cuomo. It seems the vote total for Jimmy McMillan partly reflected that actual fact of high rents in New York, partly his entertainment value.

    And clearly, he had more entertainment value than Kristin Davis of the Anti-Prohibition Party.

  10. pete healey

    He showed great heart, which is more than any of the other candidates showed. Boring and stiff and wonkish is all well and good but as everyone here knows this race was sewed up months before the election. So this guy shows up, on statewide television, with old-fashioned mutton chops and says in a loud voice ,” Ssshhhh!… Did you hear that? That was the sound of a child’s stomach growling… because… Because the Rent Is Too Damn High!!!!”
    I voted for that, because while I could intellectually connect with others on the platform I couldn’t FEEL them.

  11. Thomas L. Knapp

    Interesting that he’s re-registered as a Republican.

    If the Republicans were smart, they’d nominate him. They don’t have a chance in hell of unseating Obama in 2012, so whomever they run will be a sacrificial lamb.

    McMillan would get their “we had a black guy on the ballot” ticket punched, and would quickly be otherwise forgotten (quick — name two positions of Dole/Kemp 1996).

    Then again, they might be smarter to run Romney/Huckaby. Those two aren’t going to give up until they’ve had their shot. Might as well clear them from the roster by letting them bang their heads against the 2012 race and then telling them “ok, you had your chance, now GO AWAY.”

  12. Kimberly Wilder

    LP Watcher, you are kind of missing my point. The man ran a campaign in NY, and people said, leading up to it, he would not get real votes, people would not take him seriously. He got a serious amount of votes in his NY race. (Similar to some of the vote totals that Green Party candidates have received in the past, with the support of a full party.)

    Also, I can see that you are more lobbying, than having a discussion. You seem very worried that he will run for the Libertarian nomination. So, I guess your illogical attacks are a defense mechanism or something.

    I feel fairly sure that McMillan could not get the Libertarian endorsement. I was at the Hofstra NY Governor debate. McMillan has an odd mixture of philosophy and odd proposals which will probably not pass muster with the Libertarians.

    Though, if Jimmy finds a like-minded party to run, or runs as an independent, he will probably make some splash based on his NY success, and the money he has gained from that success.

  13. Robert Capozzi

    tk: hey don’t have a chance in hell of unseating Obama in 2012, so whomever they run will be a sacrificial lamb.

    me: Please expand.

    Right now, I’d say Obama’s on a Carter track. That COULD change in 1.75 years, of course. Things could worsen, and yet he could somehow make that a strength a la FDR. Or things could improve, and he could use that too, a la Clinton.

    I still think it’s possible he doesn’t run. Ex presidents can play lots of hoops and golf, and he could have a great time for a long time.

  14. wolfefan

    Hi RC –

    I don’t know about the Carter track… I’d say it’s more a Reagan track considering the first two years of each man…

  15. Thomas L. Knapp

    Bob @ 18,

    In the first two years of his presidency, Obama has seen his signature legislation (“health reform”) passed, and achieved major legislative victories — repeal of DADT, the tax/budget “compromise” including a payroll tax cut, etc. — at the tail end of a lame-duck Congress of his own party.

    He’s already in good position for re-election, and now he has two years of a Congress in which one house is outright controlled by the other party and in which the other house can be blocked from action by the other party’s large minority.

    To put that last paragraph a different way, he has two full years of credibly taking substantial credit for all good things, and credibly blaming the Republicans for all bad things, lying between him and the next election.

    Of the likely GOP nominees, most can look forward to doing about as well as Walter Mondale did in 1984 — except for Sarah Palin, who might not be able to carry her home state like he did.

  16. LP watcher

    Who was the last sitting president, who was elected to first term as president, to NOT be renominated for a 2nd term in the party convention? Lyndon Johnson is not the answer– he quit before the convention in 1968. And it was not Chester Arthur in 1884–he was elected as a Vice-President in 1880. It has happened though.

  17. Thomas L. Knapp

    LP Watcher at 22,

    Actually it WAS LBJ — he was not nominated for a second term in 1968. The fact that he didn’t SEEK to be re-nominated is irrelevant to the question.

    Lincoln ran as a Republican in 1860 and on the Union ticket in 864, but was in fact formally nominated by a Republican convention.

    Are you thinking of Franklin Pierce?

  18. Darryl W. Perry

    1844 – John Tyler was elected VP in 1840 to William Henry Harrison, when he died Tyler became President and ran a program favorable to the Democrats rather than the Whigs. The Whigs kicked him out of the party and in 1844 nominated Henry Clay. The Democrats didn’t trust Tyler either, so they nominated James Polk.

    1848 – James Polk was not renominated by the Democratic Party, instead they nominated Lewis Cass, who lost to Zachary Taylor.

    1852 – Millard Fillmore became the President upon the death of Zachary Taylor and when he signed the Compromise of 1850 became so unpopular that he was not renominated in 1852 by the Whigs. Instead they went with Winfield Scott who lost to the Democrat Franklin Pierce.

    1856 – Franklin Pierce was not renominated by the Democrats in 1856, instead they chose Democratic party hack James Buchanan. He was such a non-entity that he was not renominated in 1860 on any of the parties that the Democrats had broken up into over slavery.

    1868 – Andrew Johnson was not renominated by the Republicans, he was passed over for US Grant.

    1880 – James Garfield won the nomination over the sitting President Rutherford B Hayes.

    1884 – Chester A Arthur became President after Garfield was killed and James Blaine was nominated in his place.

    1928 – Calvin Coolidge became President upon the death of Warren Harding and was replaced on the Republican ticket in 1928 by Herbert Hoover.

    1952 – Harry Truman was replaced on the Democratic Ticket by Adlai Stevenson who lost to Ike.

    1968 – Lyndon Johnson was replaced on the Democratic ticket of 1968 by Hubert Humphrey who lost to Richard Nixon.

    It happened more often then one might think.

  19. Robert Capozzi

    tk21, hmm, I agree that BHO has cover for the next 2 years. Last I checked, health care reform is quite unpopular. Repeal of DADT seems unlikely to change many minds.

    If the economy is humming in 2012, he should win. I would be surprised if the Rs pulled a Mondale, as I don’t see BHO as being as popular as RWR, unless things really perk up.

    If the new normal is what we’re experiencing, I’d think that’s gotta be a bummer, good reason to pull an LBJ.

    If something off the hook happens in Iran, Pakistan/India, NK/SK, all bets are off.

  20. Thomas L. Knapp

    Bob,

    You write:

    “Last I checked, health care reform is quite unpopular.”

    It’s unpopular with the Republican base — which Obama never had a chance at the votes of anyway — on general principle. It will stay that way. The only impact it really has on the GOP vote is that it will almost certainly torpedo the presidential ambitions of its godfather, Mitt Romney.

    It’s unpopular with the left for “not going far enough.” It won’t stay that way. Over the next two years, Obama’s “not bold enough” problem with progressives will melt away to be replaced by “stymied by Republican obstructionism” (to the extent that that doesn’t already get considerable play, and it does).

    That leaves the fickle center, and ObamaCare was carefully crafted to court them.

    Its worst provision, the “individual mandate,” doesn’t go into effect until 2013, and it may not go into effect at all due to litigation.

    Its more appealing features — kids stay on their parents’ insurance longer, no pre-existing condition exclusions, etc. — are going into effect now, and probably won’t do so much harm in two years that Obama won’t be able to shift blame and/or hype cooked statistics to make them look nice to the center.

    “Repeal of DADT seems unlikely to change many minds.”

    It brings considerable portions of Obama’s “base” back into line for him.

    The fickle center has been split on DADT, but leaning toward repeal, and they have two years to see the US military not fall to pieces from it. He won’t pick up huge percentages from it, but he’ll benefit from it.

    “If the economy is humming in 2012, he should win.”

    A humming economy would help, but he’ll win either way.

    “I would be surprised if the Rs pulled a Mondale, as I don’t see BHO as being as popular as RWR, unless things really perk up.”

    It’s not a matter of Obama being as popular as Reagan, it’s a matter of the GOP not having any likely nominees who have big appeal beyond their existing base.

    The center finds the two most likely GOP nominees, Palin and Huckabee, horrifying.

    It might like Romney better, but the social conservatives aren’t going to let the centrist, Mormon godfather of Obamacare anywhere near the nomination.

    Gingrich is a long shot anyway, and he’s got enough baggage that if he starts to gain ground he’ll easily get Ed Muskied — possibly from more than one direction.

    “If something off the hook happens in Iran, Pakistan/India, NK/SK, all bets are off.”

    That’s a given, but if the Republicans are counting on it saving their asses, I think they’re delusional.

  21. Robert Capozzi

    tk: It’s not a matter of Obama being as popular as Reagan, it’s a matter of the GOP not having any likely nominees who have big appeal beyond their existing base.

    me: Yes! This is why I think the center and RINOs are where Ls can do best. The social cons have a veto in the GOP, so rather than attempt to extract L-leaners from their base, we might find the squishy center our most fertile fields. Suburbanites who think taxes are too high, don’t care if same-gender couples get married, think smoking a joint should be like drinking a beer, and who think war is a last resort.

    tk: [War with Iran or India/Pak or NK/SK’s] a given, but if the Republicans are counting on it saving their asses, I think they’re delusional.

    me: Thomas, you are such a provocateur! A given? Are you overstating? If not, walk us through why you think it’s a given.

    As for the Rs thinking war is their salvation when they’re out of office, I just don’t see it. I do agree they are delusional, but there’s a lot of that going around!

    If there are really sick conspirator R strategists who believe war is in their partisan interests, I would like to understand their thinking. Usu. voters stick with the incumbent during war…in fact, I can’t think of an exception, certainly not in the past 100 years, if ever.

  22. Thomas L. Knapp

    Bob @ 7,

    “[War with Iran or India/Pak or NK/SK’s] a given”

    Um, no. More like:

    “It’s a given that all bets are off if there’s war with Iran or India/Pak or NK/SK.”

  23. Thomas L. Knapp

    Additional thoughts vis a vis foreign policy @25-28:

    Obama campaigned for the presidency on his contention that Pakistan was a problem to be addressed, that Bush/GOP had failed to address it, and that addressing it might involve US ground troops.

    He’s been addressing it through escalations of drone strikes, etc., for two years now.

    A ground war in Pakistan would do a lot for him.

    It would let him claim the title of “man of action” rather than “man of ineffectually trying to clean up Bush’s mess.”

    The failure in Afghanistan would be relatively forgotten/written off as explained by “the Pakistan problem” that he’d be trying to “solve.”

    The GOP wouldn’t be able to get around him on the “hawk” side any more.

    Securing Pakistan’s nukes would cement the budding US-India alliance in a big way (and possibly make the world a slightly safer place for awhile).

    My impression for months has been that the Pakistani government is actively courting such a US intervention, probably on the premise that that government is in continual danger from its military, its intelligence service and its Taliban, all of whom the US would be doing its best to liquidate in a ground invasion context. If the existing government survived the opening rounds, a US presence would “stabilize” it in power.

    In terms of an “imperial” foreign policy, Pakistan makes more sense than Iran as a place for a show of force.

    In terms of domestic popularity, it’s kind of a crap shoot. It might turn him into FDR. Or it might turn him into LBJ.

    On North Korea / South Korea, I tend to diverge from the conventional wisdom, which is that North Korea could do a lot of damage but wouldn’t be able to sustain a long-term war effort.

    I think that North Korea would collapse militarily and politically within a week or so of any all-out confrontation with the South, if the US was heavily involved (e.g. air support at the ground war points of contact, strategic bombing and cruise missile reduction of Pyongyang and northern military centers). Seoul would probably sustain significant damage from long-range bombardment, etc. (it’s only ~30 miles from the DMZ), but would not be invaded by DPRK ground forces.

    If the US threw up its hands and refused to act, the North might last as long as a month, and there might be street combat in Seoul, but the outcome would be the same.

    The only thing keeping North Korea together as a political unit is bluster. Any significant military knock and it will come apart at the seams, complete with the Kim family hung up by their testicles for public mutilation.

  24. Robert Capozzi

    tk, one theory I’ve heard is that NK’s bluster is sim ply a shake-down operation. Rattle the sabres, ask for money.

  25. LP Watcher

    As I stated, the person was elected as a president in the first term. I was not considering presidents who came into power from a VP role after the assination of the sitting president.

    March 31, 1968 President Johnson quit his race for the re-election and the Democrats had their 1969 convention in Chicago in August.

    I am talking about someone that campaigned, went to the party convention and lost. Nothing more.

    Andrew Johnson was elected as a VP first and besides being part of National Union ticket, he ran again as a Democrat in 1868– didn’t make it.

    So that leaves 1856 and the winner is Franklin Peirce. He got toasted by Buchanan. FP was elected first as a president, finished first term, tried for 2nd term and lost. It has NOT happened much actually.

  26. Carl Naquin

    What is this Mc millan guy smoking or snorting? What will he do? Buy up all rental property and rent it out at a loss? When I had houses rented in the past, the prevailing market pretty much sets the rental rate. We have an idiot in the white house now who borrows trillions from China and other nations and gives out grants to China AND jAPAN AMONG OTHER COUNTRIES. Plus he thinks he can just send troops off to war without consulting Congress? He is violating the constitution. Possibly he needs one more vacation to study the document and get tutored on the seperation of powers? I am not a Republican, but a registered Independent and intend to remain just that. I just get annoyed at the general ASSumption by the media folks that Obama will win the Democratic nomination next year. I think his chances are slim and fading fast.

  27. JT

    This is funny. Doubtful that McMillan makes any connection between NY rent controls and higher rent prices for other units though.

  28. Preston Lenner

    I would be extremely concerned if he was in any sort of office after watching a documentary on him. Not the right guy for politics!

  29. Be Rational

    McMillan should get together with Brian Holtz and form the GeoRent Party. They could sell loony tunes economics for its entertainment value and help the liberty movement at the same time by getting the socialism out of the LP and into the nuthouse where it belongs.

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