Bob Barr Offers Comments On Gary Johnson and Libertarian Party

Bob Barr penned an article for The Daily Caller recently which lauds the Libertarian Party for selecting former two-term Governor Gary Johnson as its nominee.

At its national convention in Las Vegas over the weekend, the Libertarian Party chose its standard bearers for the upcoming presidential election. The selection of former Republican New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson as its presidential nominee, and former California Superior Court Judge Jim Gray as its vice presidential nominee, brings strength and credibility to the party. Whether the Libertarian Party’s rank and file will unite behind these candidates so as to maximize the appeal of the ticket — something the party faithful have not done in the recent past — remains an open question.

Barr heaps praise upon both Governor Gary Johnson and Judge Jim Gray, calling the ticket “a strong one”. Barr does not formally endorse the ticket in his article.

44 thoughts on “Bob Barr Offers Comments On Gary Johnson and Libertarian Party

  1. Trent Hill Post author

    Some of the best coverage (outside of Reason) of the LP Convention and Presidential ticket has thus far come from The Daily Caller.

    This could be related to the fact that the senior editor and owner, Tucker Carlson, was in 2008 a rumored Vice Presidential candidate. Odd.

    Also–why is Bob Barr doing this to himself? He knows it’ll turn into a “thanks Bob, but really? Gingrich?”

  2. Jeremy C. Young

    I think he did it so he could point out that “the party faithful” have not “unite[d] behind these candidates” “in the recent past” — that is, so he could blame the LP Radicals for his pathetic 2008 campaign. Fun times, Bob — where’s that $2 million you promised to raise again?

  3. Trent Hill Post author

    Barr stepped on his own feet when he pissed off Ron Paul. Dumbest thing he could’ve done.

  4. Kevin Knedler

    Also, Bob had the wrong advice from the wrong campaign manager in 2008 .

  5. Robert Capozzi

    4 L, yes, since it says “recent” past, he’s probably referring to his 08 race. And I’d say he’s stating a fact.

    Barr is homeless. He’s alienated the GOP. He’s alienated the LP. He used to be a hitter, and now he isn’t.

    He’s probably still decompressing from it all….

  6. Roger Roots

    Nothing has rejuvenated the “party faithful” as much as Bob Barr’s nomination and noncampaign in 2008. The nomination of Barr was the lowest, most disgraceful and most embarassing moment in the history of the Libertarian Party.

    No name is more toxic in the current LP than the name Bob Barr, and many of the LP “leaders” who recently lost elections at the convention (e.g., Mark Rutherford) lost in part because of their affiliation with the Bob Barr fiasco.

    My hope is that the Bob Barr episode has spurred the party to a more energetic and hardline future.

  7. Joe Buchman

    Roger,

    “My hope is that the Bob Barr episode has spurred the party to a more energetic and hardline future.”

    Ditto.

    Was good to meet you in Vegas.

  8. Jill Pyeatt

    I agree that this is a weak attempt to point out that the “party faithful” didn’t unite for his campaign.

    I can’t believe he’s trying to open that can of worms after insulting our party about Newt Gingrich.

  9. Robert Capozzi

    7 rr: …many of the LP “leaders” who recently lost elections at the convention (e.g., Mark Rutherford) lost in part because of their affiliation with the Bob Barr fiasco.

    me: Whatever gets you through the night, but your narrative doesn’t track. Rutherford outpolled Hinkle, a Berglandista, yes? The movie I was watching was that NOTA won because Sarwack stated the obvious, that the LNC was lost in a miasma of small-minded hyper-technicalities.

    I’ve seen no evidence that Rutherford lost to NOTA because of his affiliation with Barr. You are making some novel associations here, one that seems strained-to-non-existent to me. It seems more likely that Rutherford lost to NOTA because the body was tired of all the machinations it’s been witnessing for the past 2 years.

  10. Roger Roots

    I’m speaking for myself. I haven’t actually followed the “mechanisms” of the LNC “for the past 2 years” very closely. Robert, are you referring to the D.C. building fund? the floor fee decision? These issues pale in comparison to our memories of watching Rutherford, Root, etc. embracing neocon, promilitary ideology as “libertarian.”

    It is hard for many of us to forget Wayne Allen Root beginning his speeches at the St. Louis LNC by calling for a round of applause for the troops. When Bob Barr, as LP nominee, was interviewed on The O’Reilly Factor, he said he was pro-life, supported the War on Terror (with some stated reservations) and wanted income tax rates reduced only to 18 percent.

    It is the neocon, Republican-lite posturing of the Barr/Rutherford/Root/Starr faction that has energized the “party faithful”; not the LNC’s “mechanisms” of the past 2 years (whatever those might be).

  11. Thomas L. Knapp

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

    Is there any particular reason why Barr’s comments shouldn’t be taken as the fairly gracious (especially considering that Johnson publicly slammed Barr from the convention stage) compliment they seem to be?

  12. Root's Teeth Are Awesome

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    I prefer Bob Barr to Wayne Allyn Root.

    WAR is the most toxic “libertarian” name in my book. (Assuming that Dondero doesn’t count as a libertarian.)

  13. zapper

    Why is it that when I hear the name “Dondero” I think of a donkey?

  14. Robert Capozzi

    11 rr, I recognize you are speaking for yourself, I’m simply giving you feedback that your point was unclear. This post seems clearer…that Rutherford is associated with Root and Barr, and that’s why he lost. This may have some truth, and yet my point is he bested Hinkle, who is not associated with Root and Barr, near as I can tell.

    So, yes, my sense (from afar) was that the body didn’t appreciate the handling of floor fee and the LPO machinations. In that process, both Hinkle (more from the Rothbardian school) and Rutherford (apparently a leaner toward the fusionist approach) both lost. The body’s sentiment seemed to’ve been swayed by Sarwark’s point – that while both individuals are fine people, the LNC’s dysfunction indicates a reset – fresh faces who are not caught up in the current psychodrama that is the LNC.

    IOW, it doesn’t appear to me to’ve been an ideological decision to oust both Hinkle and Rutherford.

    If the body was REALLY going back to a 72-74 LP mindset, it would not have picked Gary Johnson, until recently a R.

    It appears that your ideological biases are leading you to a narrative that seems to have little-to-no justification. It appears to me that you don’t like Rutherford’s ideology (which you are probably interpolating), so you’re taking a victory lap that he lost.

    (I say this as one who is not associated with either Hinkle or Rutherford or their particular brands of L-ism.)

  15. zapper

    It seems to me that having Rutherford continue building and leading the Indiana LP …

    and …

    Having Knedler continue building and leading the Ohio LP …

    constitutes a win for the LP.

    It is essential that we build strong, successful state affiliates and I’m happy that their talents won’t be wasted on the LNC.

    Although I’m also hopeful that the new LNC leadership will be more effectvie and actually get the party moving again in the funtion areas appropriate to be handled at the national level.

  16. Andy

    “zapper // May 9, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Why is it that when I hear the name “Dondero” I think of a donkey?”

    You must be good at word association.

  17. Coinspinner

    Bob Barr? The un-American, un-Democratic slime ball that passed a law that made it illegal to even count the votes of a valid election because the disgusting criminal Bob Barr didn’t like the subject: Medical Marijuana in DC, which passed 70% to 30%. What a lout!

    Now he wants in on our group because no one will speak to him anymore.

  18. ATBAFT

    It was heartening to see the LP pick the most credible and experienced ticket ever to challenge Romney and Obama. It is incumbent on those who want to LP to become more influential to unite behind Johnson and Gray, be prepared to host them to the media when they visit their state, and sign up the legions (one hopes) of supporters they will bring our way.

    It is good, too, to see the party leadership in the experienced administrative hands of Geoff
    Neale and the passionate and “populist” voice of Les Wrights. In this critical election year, the LP did not need some non-LNC experienced leaders. Neale and Wrights live close to each other in the Austin area and appear to be both friendly and ideologically aligned.
    Let’s not listen to those handful of carpers and
    dividers who populate this (and any worthwhile) organization.

  19. Brian Holtz

    Wayne Allen Root beginning his speeches at the St. Louis LNC by calling for a round of applause for the troops

    I try to follow LPUS politics closely, but I don’t remember ever hearing about this. Given the enormous applause the delegates gave to that 25-year-old Marine veteran even before his floor speech got beyond his bio, it’s just not plausible that this alleged Root incident had any effect on the convention.

    [Barr] was pro-life, supported the War on Terror (with some stated reservations) and wanted income tax rates reduced only to 18 percent

    If anything, I was surprised at how absent the ghost of Barr was at the convention. The only reason my “compares GJ to Barr” drinking-game item got a checkmark is that Johnson himself made the comparison.

    As for the policy specifics above, I’ve extensively documented that the Barr campaign was at least as radical as the Ron Paul campaign across a full range of issues.

    Bob Barr’s nomination and noncampaign in 2008

    Non-campaign?

    Below is a playlist I made of Bob Barr media appearances in the 2008 campaign cycle. I stopped at around 50 videos two months before the campaign ended, and it only included TV appearances that I could find on YouTube. Most were on national TV channels, while Harry Browne’s 2000 campaign only claimed 53 national TV appearances in total.

  20. Kevin Knedler

    Hey Zapper !
    Already working to have OHIO strat meetings with my Field Development Team and the GJ2012 team.
    Setting plans, vision, mission, and setting goals.
    Have to have this done by early June. It should help bump up our vote totals for GJ2012. All Good and it gets people off the couch and engaged. Still important to have some fun at this also.

  21. Trent Hill Post author

    Comparing Barr08 to Brown00 is tough because there are also more shows/channels now than there were in 2000. But, nevertheless, Brian makes a good point.

    Knapp will be along any minute to suggest that “quality” matters more than “quantity”.

  22. Steve M

    When somebody compliments you its bad form to do anything other then say… Thank you.

  23. Thomas L. Knapp

    @25, @26,

    Hmmm … I took the position that Barr’s compliments should be accepted as compliments as endlessly parsed for insult.

    Is there some reason why you immediately jump to the conclusion that I’d want to follow that up with a rehash of campaign comparisons?

  24. Trent Hill Post author

    Knapp–just a joke, man. I’m playing around.

    I agree that Barr should be commended for the nice words.

  25. Andy

    “Barr does not formally endorse the ticket in his article.”

    Yes, Bob Barr already formally endorsed that great champion of individual liberty, Newt Gingrich, for President (for the humor impaired, this is sarcasm).

  26. Joseph Thompson

    #23 Thx for the drinking game, I laughed way too much reading it. I sat right behind Sarwak and begged him to stay seated as I got drunk in the first 30 minutes. As to the LP Chair we wanted Wrights and agreed to Neale in order to get Wrights as Vice-Chair.

  27. Andy

    “Below is a playlist I made of Bob Barr media appearances in the 2008 campaign cycle. I stopped at around 50 videos two months before the campaign ended, and it only included TV appearances that I could find on YouTube. Most were on national TV channels, while Harry Browne’s 2000 campaign only claimed 53 national TV appearances in total.”

    Harry Browne’s media appearances were far more effective than Bob Barr’s media appearances in that Browne actually inspired more people to contact the party and become libertarian activists. Barr’s media appearances produced more of a “who cares” reaction and Barr actually turned many people away from the Libertarian Party.

    I’ve spoken to thousands of Libertarians/libertarians around the country, and I have yet to encounter one person who said that they became a Libertarian/libertarian because of Bob Barr.

    Also, note that Harry Browne did a lot of talk radio interviews as well as local TV interviews.

  28. Andy

    “Andy // May 9, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    “zapper // May 9, 2012 at 11:49 am

    Why is it that when I hear the name “Dondero” I think of a donkey?”

    You must be good at word association.

    19 zapper // May 9, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    @19 Actually, I was being polite. I usually think of another word.”

    Reminds me of one that starts with the letter J and ends with the letter S and rhymes with pack grass.:)

  29. Andy

    “If anything, I was surprised at how absent the ghost of Barr was at the convention.”

    That’s probably because most of a Barristas were too embarrassed to bring up that they voted for him for the nomination the last time, and most of the people who were at the 2008 LP National Convention who did note vote for Barr didn’t really want to talk about him because his campaign is a bad memory.

  30. Andy

    “It is hard for many of us to forget Wayne Allen Root beginning his speeches at the St. Louis LNC by calling for a round of applause for the troops.”

    I remember that. Mindlessly kissing the ass of government employees makes me sick to my stomach.

  31. Andy

    “Roger Roots // May 9, 2012 at 10:39 am

    Nothing has rejuvenated the ‘party faithful’ as much as Bob Barr’s nomination and noncampaign in 2008. The nomination of Barr was the lowest, most disgraceful and most embarassing moment in the history of the Libertarian Party.”

    I agree. The Libertarian Party is still reeling from the damage that Bob Barr did in 2008 and has done since then.

    “No name is more toxic in the current LP than the name Bob Barr,”

    If Bob Barr ever shows up at a libertarian event in the future, he ought to be booed out of the building.

  32. Austin Battenberg

    What made me like Bob Barr enough to vote for him in 2008 was the speech he gave introducing Ron Paul at CPAC. I was really annoyed with him skipping out on the event with Paul and the other third party candidates, but the reason he gave made sense: He wanted to be seen as a serious candidate, and being on the same stage with other third party candidates would “lessen” his chances. I think that gamble was a huge mistake. That, and his endorsement of Newt really alienated him from libertarians such as myself. I was willing to forgive him for the PATRIOT Act vote because of his involvement in including a sunset and his admission that he regretted the vote.

    But for whatever reason, instead of staying the course and trying to prove to his libertarian brethren that he is a true believer, he had to step on the toes of those who would support him. Now he will never get support from the LP, because if he goes back to being a conservative, no libertarian would vote for him, and if he became a radical, no libertarian would believe him.

    He screwed himself, and I don’t think there is anything he can do to right the ship. It’s too bad really…because he COULD have been influential in converting more conservatives to the LP. Now he is just another Neil Boortz.

  33. Andy

    Austin Battenberg said: “He screwed himself, and I don’t think there is anything he can do to right the ship.”

    The best thing that Bob Barr could do for the Libertarian Party and the libertarian movement is to stay far away from it.

  34. Tom Blanton

    I’ve spoken to thousands of Libertarians/libertarians around the country, and I have yet to encounter one person who said that they became a Libertarian/libertarian because of Bob Barr.

    If you looked real hard around Georgia, you might someone who became a libertarian because of Bob Barr. Of course, this would have happened back when Barr was still a Republican with a House seat, long before he joined the LP. Certainly there was more than a few disgruntled Republicans in Georgia back then (Boortz & company) and Barr may well have pushed someone over the edge with his anti-freedom agenda in Congress.

    That said, anyone who has joined the LP because of Boortz, Barr, or Barr’s running mate, might possibly be a crypto-fascist, a radical zionist, or just border-line retarded.

  35. Matt Schutter

    I glad that nazi piece of crap didnt endorse Gary Johnson. Bob Barr is a jackass nazi

  36. Andy

    Tom Blanton said: “If you looked real hard around Georgia, you might someone who became a libertarian because of Bob Barr.”

    I’m not saying that there aren’t any out there, I’m just saying that I’ve yet to encounter any (and I talk to a lot of people).

    If there are any “Bob Barr Libertarians” out there, I’d question just how committed to individual liberty they really area.

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