Ted Cruz names Bob Barr head of outreach effort to Ron Paul supporters and libertarians

via The Iowa Statesman.

Republican presidential candidate U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz today named former U.S. Rep. Bob Barr the National Chair of the “Liberty Leaders for Cruz” coalition. The campaign also released a video of eight leaders in the Liberty movement who are actively working for the Cruz campaign, featuring their personal stories of why they supported Ron Paul, and why in 2016, they support Ted Cruz for President.

Additional coverage at Reason.

Fmr. Rep. Bob Barr (R-GA) was the Libertarian nominee for President in 2008, winning on the sixth ballot at a divided and fractured convention. After a controversial campaign that included a very public dispute with Ron Paul, Barr returned to the GOP and was defeated in the Republican primary in a 2014 bid to return to Congress.

Barr’s 2008 running mate Wayne Allyn Root has also since left the Libertarian Party, and taken up a position as chair of the Republican Liberty Caucus National Campaign Committee.  Root is supporting Donald Trump in 2016 who, like Root himself, returned to the GOP after failing to secure a third-party presidential nomination.

88 thoughts on “Ted Cruz names Bob Barr head of outreach effort to Ron Paul supporters and libertarians

  1. George Phillies

    ROTFL. Hopefully, Congressman Barr will by highly renumerated and able to finishing paying off his campaign debts, which in early 2015 included

    Terra Eclipse 9043 Soquel Dr
    Aptos, California 950034001 12 35566.87 IT
    Press Well Services, Inc. 9204 Vassau Ct
    Ste B
    Manassas Park, Virginia 201114849 12 578.06 Printing
    All Points Packaging & Distribution, In 1650 Marietta Blvd NW
    Atlanta, Georgia 303183645 12 1149.42 Online Order Fulfillment
    Campaigner Pro 2379 Holly Lane
    Suit 210
    Ottawa, ON K1V 70000 12 2675.00 Software
    McKenna Long & Aldridge PO Box 116573
    Atlanta, Georgia 303686573 12 18414.69 Legal Fees
    Wayne Allen Root PO Box 725007
    Atlanta, Georgia 311392007 12 3297.81 Campaign Expenses
    Doug Bandow 7901 Cliff Rock Ct
    Springfield, Virginia 221532501 12 6466.05 Political Consulting
    James Bovard 1348 Templeton Pl
    Rockville, Maryland 208520000 12 47000.00 Authoring Fee
    Russ Verney 6812 Summer Meadow Ln
    Dallas, Texas 752522715 12 15000.00 Political Consulting
    Dr. Robert B. Stuber 11401 Little Bay Harbor Way
    Spotsylvania, Virginia 225518904 12 4000.00 Fundraising Consulting
    Lisa Franzman 21 N Kalaheo Ave
    Kailua, Hawaii 967342309 12 802.77 Rent
    Mr. Steve Sinton 1923 Fields Pond Gln
    Marietta, Georgia 300681575 12 4000.00 Political Consulting

  2. Mark Axinn

    What? You don’t think Bob Barr is the best man to reach Libertarian supporters? Say it isn’t true….

  3. Mark Axinn

    >James Bovard 1348 Templeton Pl
    Rockville, Maryland 208520000 12 47000.00 Authoring Fee

    Bovard practically killed himself to get that book done quickly for the Barr campaign, only to get stiffed out of almost 50K!!

  4. paulie

    That’s shameful. And we know it’s a real debt, not a paper debt, because James Bovard has been very explicit and public about that.

  5. paulie

    Bob Barr refused to share the stage at the 2008 Ron Paul “We Agree” event. What more does a person need to know about his commitment to liberty and limited government?

    Yes, myself and IPR played a big part in breaking that story. He said he did not want to be on stage with “people like” Cynthia McKinney. Someone should ask him what he meant.

  6. Andy

    “Mark Axinn

    September 29, 2015 at 1:45 pm

    >James Bovard 1348 Templeton Pl
    Rockville, Maryland 208520000 12 47000.00 Authoring Fee

    Bovard practically killed himself to get that book done quickly for the Barr campaign, only to get stiffed out of almost 50K!!”

    I met James Bovard in person at the Libertarian Party of Pennsylvania State Convention in 2013. He was a guest speaker. When I spoke to him, I asked him if he ever got any of the money that Bob Barr owed him. He said that he had not received a penny of it, even though he had won a judgment in his court case against him over it.

    I don’t know what is more disgraceful, the fact that Barr still has not paid James Bovard money owed from his 2008 campaign (and other people too, apparently), or the fact that a majority of Libertarian Party delegates at the 2008 National Convention voted for him to be our party’s candidate for President.

  7. Andy

    “Thane “Goldie” Eichenauer

    September 29, 2015 at 1:49 pm

    Bob Barr refused to share the stage at the 2008 Ron Paul ‘We Agree’ event. What more does a person need to know about his commitment to liberty and limited government?”

    Barr also endorsed Newt Gingrich for the Republican Party’s Presidential nomination in 2012, and he said that Gingrich should be the choice for libertarians, “Because Newt knows how to get things done.” After Gingrich lost in the Republican primaries, Bob Barr endorsed Mitt Romney for President in the general election.

    This shows you how committed to individual liberty this guy is.

    I would not be surprised if this whole thing with Barr is an attempt by the CIA to herd less informed and marginal libertarians back to the Republican establishment plantation, and to make libertarians look bad to everyone else.

  8. paulie

    I don’t know what is more disgraceful, the fact that Barr still has not paid James Bovard money owed from his 2008 campaign (and other people too, apparently), or the fact that a majority of Libertarian Party delegates at the 2008 National Convention voted for him to be our party’s candidate for President.

    Both are disgraceful.

  9. Nicholas Sarwark

    Of past Libertarian Party Presidential candidates, Mr. Barr is the most likely to appeal to those libertarians and Ron Paul supporters who would seriously consider voting for Mr. Cruz.

    How large a group that is remains to be seen.

  10. paulie

    Hopefully very small. But I’m sure we’ll be seeing a bunch of that crap on various social media so we may as well compile our ammo here.

  11. Doug Craig

    In 2008..I was knee deep in the Ron Paul campaign. ..they used my warehouse in Atlanta. .After Ron Paul was out..I tried to set up Barr with all the Ron Paul players in Georgia. .Barr wanted nothing to do with them..I was the political director in Georgia at the time..

  12. paulie

    They expected everyone to just fall in line behind them without doing the work to try to make it happen and just alienated people as a result.

  13. Andy

    “paulie

    September 29, 2015 at 2:41 pm

    They expected everyone to just fall in line behind them without doing the work to try to make it happen and just alienated people as a result.”

    I’ve got to wonder if alienating Ron Paul supporters was their true intent.

  14. Root's Teeth Are Awesome

    At the 2008 LP convention, Wayne Allyn Root praised Bob Barr as “a master politician.”

    So at least Barr has Root’s endorsement.

  15. Andy Craig Post author

    If there is one redeeming aspect to Barr’s 2008 actions re: Ron Paul, it’s that it was in part a desperate attempt to ditch his running mate.

  16. Andy


    Root’s Teeth Are Awesome

    September 29, 2015 at 3:01 pm

    At the 2008 LP convention, Wayne Allyn Root praised Bob Barr as ‘a master politician.'”

    He also said that he wanted to learn from the master, Bob Barr. I wonder what Root learned from Barr? How to be a two-faced weasel politician?

  17. Mark Axinn

    >I don’t know what is more disgraceful, the fact that Barr still has not paid James Bovard money owed from his 2008 campaign (and other people too, apparently), or the fact that a majority of Libertarian Party delegates at the 2008 National Convention voted for him to be our party’s candidate for President.

    Root dropped out of the race for Pres. nomination after the fifth ballot in 2008 and asked his supporters to all vote for Barr (in exchange for the Barr voters then voting for Root for VP). I voted for Mary Ruwart on all six ballots.

    As far as Jim Bovard, I spoke to him both that summer and thereafter on several occasions about his work for Barr. Not only did he do a fine job ghost-writing Barr’s book, he did it quickly which was essential for its utility in the campaign. For a professional to be stiffed after working so hard and diligently, and to such degree, is reprehensible.

  18. Thane "Goldie" Eichenauer

    “Am I a dumbass?”
    It is easy to critique choices knowing what followed. Was there a better choice to support politically in 2008? Chuck Baldwin?

  19. paulie

    Was there a better choice to support politically in 2008?

    Steve Kubby. He would have been VP pick if a few delegates stuck around instead of leaving the minute Barr got the nod. And he was willing to run with Barr, unlike…

    Mary Ruwart. She came close but didn’t get the nomination. Barr asked her to be his VP but she didn’t want anything to do with his campaign.

  20. paulie

    In the general election:

    A small handful of states had BTP candidates. Phillies was on in NH as LP, as well as Barr. Ron Paul was on the ballot or a registered write-in in some states. Most states allow write-ins, although they aren’t always counted, tabulated or reported. Some states have unregistered write-ins, some don’t.

    Barr and McKinney seemed like a toss-up to me. I wanted to switch to McKinney, but I talked to her in person and was not impressed. She seemed to have nothing but good things to say about Barr and possibly had the hots for him. Meanwhile he considered her dirt and said he would not be seen on a stage with people “like” her.

    I helped Barr, Nader, McKinney, BTP, and Baldwin, and SP-USA get on the ballot that year. Maybe some others but that’s all I remember at the moment. Helped them all and some others get coverage at IPR, TPW and LFV. Personally, didn’t vote – combination of felonies and paperwork/ID issues – and didn’t miss it terribly – but was a Barr elector in Alabama.

    Probably would have voted for Barr, reluctantly, if I had voted – McKinney and BTP were not on Alabama ballot.

  21. Andy

    I voted for Ron Paul for President as a write in candidate for President in 2012 (in a state where he had official write in candidate status).

  22. Jim Bovard

    Hearty thanks for the kind words to Andy, George Phillies, paulie, and especially to Mark Axinn.

    Cruz hiring Barr brings to mind one of my favorite lines from O. Henry: “Don’t you think Opportunity has skinned its knuckles about enough knocking at our door?”

  23. Steve Scheetz

    ROTFLMAO!!!!! I thought this was originally posted from The Onion… I guess they figured that they could not write this shit since it is UNBELIEVABLY STUPID!

  24. George Phillies

    The Onion is not up to making this up.

    With respect to “Of past Libertarian Party Presidential candidates, Mr. Barr is the most likely to appeal to those libertarians and Ron Paul supporters who would seriously consider voting for Mr. Cruz.” A vigorous search is being made of the telephone booth where “libertarians… who would seriously consider voting for Mr. Cruz.” would gather, and so far it appears to be empty.

    Oh, yes, having cut a deal with Root to get the nomination, the Barr campaign stiffed their own VP candidate.

  25. Mark Axinn

    >Kubby til out, Ruwart after that, Kubby on each ballot for VP.

    PF–Kubby would have been a fine candidate. He reminded us that it takes two wings to get the Libertarian airplane off the ground. But I voted for my dear, now deceased friend, James Libertarian Burns for VP.

    JB–Nice to hear from you; hope all is well so close to DC. Obama in NYC last two days messed up midtown of course.

  26. paulie

    I tried to get Burns into the convention debates in 2012. I also helped him get enough tokens to get nominated.

    Andy J the sole convention delegate vote for Ron Paul in 2012 iirc. Above he mentions also writing him in the “real” election that year. I thought he did in 2008 as well but my memory is hazy on that after 7 years.

  27. ATBAFT

    As I recall, Ruwart lost in Denver because she was portrayed as supporting child pornography.
    Absent that, I think she would have won the nomination. I too turned over a complete state list of the leaders of Ron Paul clubs. Barr’s campaign manager told me the list was “priceless.” Not one of them was ever contacted by Barr’s LP campaign (which was pretty invisible.)

  28. Caryn Ann Harlos

    OMG! You couldn’t make this stuff up.

    Could a *worse* person to reach (at least big L) Libertarians been picked?

    Not likely.

  29. paulie

    Well, they could have cut out the middleman and asked Jean-Claude “Baby Doc” Duvalier to do it himself if he hadn’t died last year.

  30. Andy

    Paul said: “Andy J the sole convention delegate vote for Ron Paul in 2012 iirc. Above he mentions also writing him in the ‘real’ election that year. I thought he did in 2008 as well but my memory is hazy on that after 7 years.”

    Yes, I did cast a write in vote for Ron Paul for the Libertarian Party’s Presidential nomination at the 2012 Libertarian Party National Convention. I did this as a protest vote because I was unhappy with all of the declared candidates for the nomination.

    I had considered casting a vote for None Of The Above, but I do think that the Libertarian Party should have a candidate for President, so I preferred to vote for somebody, even though I suppose that None Of The Above would have been a good protest vote as well.

    Others I considered writing in as a protest vote for the LP Presidential nomination at the 2012 National Convention were Andrew Napolitano, Doug Stanhope, or Alex Jones.

    I decided to cast my write in protest vote for the LP Presidential nomination in 2012 because he was running for President that year, although under a different party banner, and there was a lot of demand for Ron Paul to run for the Libertarian Party nomination, and I think that he would have won it easily if he had done it.

    I considered voting for None Of The Above for the Vice Presidential nomination at the 2012 LP National Convention, or casting another write in vote, but I decided to cast a sympathy vote for Jim “Libertarian” Burns. Jim Burns seemed like a good fellow the few times that I talked to him and from what I’ve heard from other people, and I know that he had run for office several times, and had been a long time party activist, so I decided to give him a sympathy vote.

    I voted for Mary Ruwart on most of the ballot for the LP Presidential nomination in 2008, not necessarily because I thought she was a great candidate, but rather because she appeared to be the best candidate who could beat Bob Barr. I think that Ruwart is very good on issues and philosophy, and she is a good writer, but her campaign was very weak, I voted for Steve Kubby on either the 2nd or 3rd ballot for the Presidential nomination, just because it looked like it was going to go for a few more ballots, and I wanted to give him at least one vote on one of my ballots for President. Kubby’s campaign was kind of weak too, but I thought that he was a better public speaker than Ruwart. I did vote for Steve Kubby on every ballot for Vice President.

    When it came to the general election in 2008, I cast a write in vote for Ron Paul for President and Gail Lightfoot for Vice President. This was in California, where there is a process to become an official write in candidate, which some Ron Paul supporters had gone through (without Ron Paul’s consent), so any write in votes cast for the Ron Paul / Gail Lightfoot ticket in California did officially get counted.

    I voted for None Of The Above for President in 2012, as in I actually wrote in None Of The Above on my ballot for the 2012 Presidential race. I went back and forth about whether or not I should vote for the Gary Johnson / Jim Gray ticket, and I decided against it, but while I was at the voting booth in 2012, right before I wrote in None Of The Above, I considered voting for Johnson / Gray again, but I decided against it, and went ahead with writing in None Of The Above. I did vote for all of the other Libertarian Party candidates who were on my ballot in 2012 though (note that this was not in California, as I had registered to vote in a different state by then, and if I had still been voting in California, the Johnson / Gray ticket would have been the only candidates on my ballot due to Top Two Primary).

    I was not completely opposed to everything that the Johnson / Gray campaign did, but I decided to not vote for them for the following reasons:

    1) Their support of the Fair Tax.

    2) Gary Johnson’s lack of pardons as Governor of New Mexico.

    3) Jim Gray’s lack of support for jury nullification.

    4) Jim Gray’s cop cuddling.

  31. paulie

    I am an idiot. I knew that.

    If you were an idiot, you would not have 🙂

    Also, if you go in dashboard under comments and hit reply it brings up a dialog box that makes it even easier.

  32. Jed Ziggler

    ’08 was my first full year as a Libertarian. I was going to vote for Barr, hell I still have my Barr ’08 button, but had a change of heart once I got to the voting booth and ended up voting for Nader instead.

  33. Andy

    2008 could have been an excellent year for the Libertarian Party with all of the new people who were brought into the liberty movement by the Ron Paul campaign, but the Libertarian Party blew it by nominating the Barr / Root ticket.

  34. Dave

    Considering Rand looks set to drop out soon I suspect his 3% or so will be looking for a new home. This election season has caused me to reevaluate Ron Paul’s success at building a movement. We can argue that Rand is less respected than his father, which I think is fairly agreeable, but I do wonder where most of his dad’s support went.

    I know a few of the more conservative folks like Cruz. But I suspect a lot went to of all people Donald Trump. Much of that is probably because he “tells it like it is.” I think some of the supporters of Ron were just angry and wanted to back someone who was hated by the establishment. Enter Trump. There’s probably a non negligible part that supports Sanders as well.

  35. Andy

    “Dave

    September 29, 2015 at 11:04 pm

    Considering Rand looks set to drop out soon I suspect his 3% or so will be looking for a new home. This election season has caused me to reevaluate Ron Paul’s success at building a movement. We can argue that Rand is less respected than his father, which I think is fairly agreeable, but I do wonder where most of his dad’s support went.”

    His dad’s supporters are still out there. Some of them went to or were already in the Libertarian Party. Some of them are supporting Rand. Some of them are currently not taking part in electoral politics.

    I think that the right candidate with the right campaign could bring a lot of those people who supported Ron Paul back.

    If Rand was more like his father he’d be getting way more support right now.

    The latest I’ve heard from the Rand Paul campaign is that he is not planning to drop out of the race.

  36. Dave

    I hope so. I backed RP both times and I wanted to believe he was building a movement. Hopefully a lot of them will return to the fold once a suitable candidate emerges. I don’t entirely hate Rand but he’s the diet version of his dad at BEST. And no one likes diet. I doubt I’d vote for him even if he did get the nomination, unless he emphasized issues he’s not been.

    Speaking of Rand http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/rand-paul-superpac-purplepac-dark-214221

    “In a Tuesday telephone interview, Ed Crane, who oversees the group, PurplePAC, accused Paul of abandoning his libertarian views — and suggested it was a primary reason the Kentucky senator had plummeted in the polls. “

  37. Scotty Boman

    One word: Snubgate. This is so rich. It looks like Ted Cruz is as gullible now as the LP was in 2008. I’ll give Barr this much. A true student of Barnum. I confess I voted for the guy. Not in support of him as much as in support of the LP. I never want to feel so compromised again.

  38. Dave

    He sounded good on drugs during the debate, imo. Locking kids up when they’re young and ruining their lives, and how its disproportionately minorities impacted. When he talks about those sort of things, I like him. Or his spat with Christie in the first debate over wiretapping. I was reading conservatives twitters after that, and man they hated that. “Rand says the war ond rugs is racist! ” One unironically said that “He sounds like a hippie!” It almost brought me back to his dad’s campaign and those glory days.

    The problem is he almost immediately follows those things with pronouncements about how he’d be tough on national security or the like, probably because he desperately wants to be acceptable to the establishment of the party. Which does not work and really only burns a lot of goodwill.

    And I also have to say I think some of the reason he’s not caught on is his temperament. Ron I felt was adorable. (Full disclosure; I say this as someone who thinks despite being nuts Pat Robertson looks very huggable) He had a congenial manner about him like an old county doctor and I found him endearing. Rand just seems like a whiner and rather snide. “Christie hugged Obama, wah wah!” Even as someone probably more sympathetic to Rand than 95% of the folks here, the guy comes across as arrogant and a bit of a jerk.

  39. George Phillies

    Barr, a two-faced scoundrel, properly lined up with the LP Party figure who stood up in front of an audience and said Barr would bring in tens of millions in campaign funds for his campaign. It is not surprising that membership has fallen since then when people who made claims like that still have party posts.

  40. Caryn Ann Harlos

    Paulie I think we have different screen options…. or permissions;… there is no reply button in there (we can take this to email if you like)

  41. Jed Ziggler

    Easy as it is to criticize Barr, there were plusses. From a shear raw vote standpoint, the campaign was moderately successful. His vote total may not have been as high as some had hoped, but it was higher than most LP presidential campaigns. Furthermore, I imagine he did bring at least some people to the party.

  42. paulie

    CAH

    OK, but make it the email list. We need to figure this out for more than only you. Andy C is saying he still can’t do it and I can’t figure out why.

    Also the reply link doesn’t show up for me til I drag the mouse around inside the comment. Try that for a minute first.

  43. Bondurant

    I voted for Barr reluctantly in ’08. Cruz is a theocrat but my favor well with “libertarians” like Glenn Beck. I imagine the true libertarian had a good chuckle reading this article.

  44. Andy

    “George Phillies

    September 29, 2015 at 11:30 pm

    Barr, a two-faced scoundrel, properly lined up with the LP Party figure who stood up in front of an audience and said Barr would bring in tens of millions in campaign funds for his campaign.”

    Oh yeah, I remember at the National Convention the buzz going around was that if Bob Barr won the nomination, he was going to bring in $35-$40 million. I thought that this was complete BS, but there were a surprising number of delegates at the convention who bought into this.

    “Jed Ziggler

    September 29, 2015 at 11:32 pm

    Easy as it is to criticize Barr, there were plusses. From a shear raw vote standpoint, the campaign was moderately successful. His vote total may not have been as high as some had hoped, but it was higher than most LP presidential campaigns. Furthermore, I imagine he did bring at least some people to the party.”

    The raw vote total for the Barr / Root ticket really was not that great. They received 523,715, which was the 3rd best raw vote total for President that the LP has received, however, in terms of percent of the vote, but in terms of percent of the vote, which is a more important criteria than number of raw votes, the Barr / Root ticket came in 5th place among LP Presidential tickets.

    Here is how the top five breaks down in order of percent of the vote:

    1) Ed Clark / David Koch

    2) Gary Johnson / Jim Gray

    3) Harry Browne / Jo Jorgensen

    4) Ron Paul / Andre Marrou

    5) Bob Barr / Wayne Root

    So fifth place in terms of percent of the vote really was not that great, especially considering that there was a big potential in 2008 to get a lot more votes than the Barr / Root ticket received considering all of the new people who were inspired to get involved in the libertarian movement by the Ron Paul campaign. If the Barr / Root ticket had not alienated so many of these people, I’d bet that they could have gotten over 1 million votes.

    Also, I have yet to meet one person, either in person or online, who has told me that they came into the Libertarian Party because of Bob Barr or Wayne Root, and I talk to a lot of people.

    There were new people who joined the Libertarian Party in 2008, but I think that most of them came to the party after hearing about Ron Paul being a Libertarian.

  45. Andy

    ” however, in terms of percent of the vote, but in terms of percent of the vote, which is a more important criteria than number of raw votes,”

    Should read, “however, in terms of percent of the vote, which is a more important criteria than number of raw votes…”

  46. George Phillies

    Whoever wrote: “the buzz going around was that if Bob Barr won the nomination, he was going to bring in $35-$40 million” Andy? Jed? Friends of mine named the LNC member who said this in a public speech.

  47. Mark Axinn

    >I imagine the true libertarian had a good chuckle reading this article.

    Several. Especially Paulie’s comment about what happens when the drugs wear off.

  48. Andy

    “George Phillies

    September 30, 2015 at 8:03 am

    Whoever wrote: ‘the buzz going around was that if Bob Barr won the nomination, he was going to bring in $35-$40 million’

    Andy? Jed? Friends of mine named the LNC member who said this in a public speech.”

    Who was the LNC member who said this in a public speech, and where was this speech given?

  49. NewFederalist

    This is just perfect! Barr is such an unpleasent persona as well as a liar and cheat that working for Cruz is a perfect fit. Since none of the GOP field is worth anything anyway one can only wish him well and suggest that he should shop his considerable talents as a libertarian political persuader to the Hillary Clinton campaign! Perhaps he could infect BOTH dominant political parties.

  50. Andy

    I was highly skeptical of the $30-$40 million claim from the Barr campaign, and for good reason, as it turned out to be bullshit. I was surprised at how many convention delegates bought into it.

  51. Sean Scallon

    Bob I will save you the trouble. Not in a million years.

    And any RP supporter backing Cruz in 2016 doesn’t have a clue or completely forgot what the Revolution was about.

  52. Sean Scallon

    2008 could have been an excellent year for the Libertarian Party with all of the new people who were brought into the liberty movement by the Ron Paul campaign, but the Libertarian Party blew it by nominating the Barr / Root ticket.

    Indeed. A Barr/Kubby ticket was the best pair for the LP going forward but that opportunity came and went and so the effort to remake the LP into the disgruntled Republican club proceeded. First they alienated all the LP activists, then the Ron Paul supporters and then Russ Verney, the great wreckers of non-major parties topped it all off by trying to buy-off Paul by offering Root as a sacrifice. It’s any wonder they didn’t end up endorsing McCain by Election Day.

    And where are Barr and Root now, these stalwart Libertarian nominees? Back in the GOP again as so-called libertarian window dressing. Again, an opportunity missed.

  53. Mark Axinn

    Left out a word; I should have said, “Perhaps I can have my Cruz junk emails forwarded to Barr instead of to Trump…..”

  54. bongohappens

    Hilarious, Bob Barr was head of Right to Life, in GA, when his wife — 2nd — got pregnant. He made her get abortion for “good of marriage” then immediately dumped her for with #3 who he was already screwing.

    Typical GOP scum

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