The Libertarian Party – Choose Freedom

10 thoughts on “The Libertarian Party – Choose Freedom

  1. Melinda Pillsbury-Foster

    How many ways can you say ‘pathetic?’ Nothing could be further from the truth. The LP as a political party, has done nothing to advance individual freedom. Their actual purpose is raising enough money to pay their salaries and benefits packages.

  2. Andy

    This was posted to YouTube on January 23rd of this year, but I just saw it for the first time. It was made by some group called Liberty Link Media Group (I have never heard of them prior to this). This is really well done. I strongly disagree with what happened last year in regard to the Johnson/Weld campaign, as I believe that they strayed way too far off course when it came to promoting a libertarian message (I don’t know that I’d even call their message libertarian), and although getting close to 4 1/2 million votes for President sounds impressive by LP standards, the fact of the matter is that last year presented the most favorable set of circumstances under which the Libertarian Party has ever fielded a presidential ticket, and there was real potential last year to get even more votes than Johnson/Weld obtained (and a lot of the votes they got were not so much votes for them, or for the party or the libertarian philosophy (both of which they did a poor job of promoting), but were rather protest votes against the major party candidates), so I’d say that in terms of vote total, the LP presidential ticket in 2016 under-performed if anything. Outside of the vote total, a far more important question needs to be asked, and that is, what is the point of getting votes, or even the existence of the Libertarian Party at all, if we are going to field candidates who abandon the party’s stated principles to the extent that Johnson/Weld did? Vote totals are pretty meaningless if there are no principles behind them.

    Having said this, the video above is very good, and I think that Chairman Sarwark, Vice Chairman Vohara, Ms. Howell, and Mr. Sharpe,, all of whom are featured in the video above, do a much better job articulating a Libertarian message than our 2016 presidential ticket did. A video like this would make a good TV commercial.

    Hopefully, those of us who were not happy with the Johnson/Weld campaign can rebound and ensure that the Libertarian Party offers the people of this country more principled Libertarian choices in future elections.

  3. Andy

    “Melinda Pillsbury-Foster
    March 25, 2017 at 11:46
    How many ways can you say ‘pathetic?’ Nothing could be further from the truth. The LP as a political party, has done nothing to advance individual freedom. Their actual purpose is raising enough money to pay their salaries and benefits packages.”

    Wow, you are even more jaded than I am.

    I don’t think that it is fair to say that the Libertarian Party has accomplished nothing. Yeah, I’m not happy with some of the things that have gone on in the party over the last several years, and I did not like our party’s last three presidential tickets (I did not even vote for any of them, although I have continued to vote for our down ticket candidates), but even with all of its internal dysfunction, the Libertarian Party has still been one of the top vehicles for disseminating a libertarian message to the public, and for getting people to understand and adopt these principles.

    Are there things that the party could be doing better? Sure, but this does not mean that everything that the organization has done is worthless. The party has never even come close to reaching its potential.

  4. Melinda Pillsbury-Foster

    Andy, I wish I was wrong. I’m not jaded I have more experience than you. In addition, I did research after beginning to have suspicions. In 1999 I wrote a book outlining why the LP had to radically decentralize and return to the model followed by Roger MacBride during his 1976 campaign for president. Roger got to know local people who were activists and supported their efforts. He viewed his candidacy as support for local activists, in other words.
    The title was The Great Experiment Revisited I put up the text online in 2007.
    http://greatexperimentrevisited.blogspot.com/

    Roger let me give his 50th birthday party in 1979 to raise the money we needed to run 14 LP candidates. He had learned to be skeptical of the kind of ‘activists’ who want to be big frogs in little ponds. He and Hunscher, the successful entrepreneur (3 high tech companies) who offered to continue his local work in 1980 was defeated by the Crane-Koch Machine. It took up until 1983 to wrest the LP back from them.
    Those who took over were no better.

    Real answers accomplish the goals. They do not view government as any part of the answer. If you think government can solve anything you are not a Libertarian, in fact, I strongly doubt you are a Conservative.

    You said, “Andy commented on The Libertarian Party – Choose Freedom.

    “Wow, you are even more jaded than I am.

    I don’t think that it is fair to say that the Libertarian Party has accomplished nothing. Yeah, I’m not happy with some of the things that have gone on in the party over the last several years, and I did not like our party’s last three presidential tickets (I did not even vote for any of them, although I have continued to vote for our down ticket candidates), but even with all of its internal dysfunction, the Libertarian Party has still been one of the top vehicles for disseminating a libertarian message to the public, and for getting people to understand and adopt these principles.

    Are there things that the party could be doing better? Sure, but this does not mean that everything that the organization has done is worthless. The party has never even come close to reaching its potential.

  5. Andy

    “Melinda Pillsbury-Foster
    March 25, 2017 at 13:09
    Andy, I wish I was wrong. I’m not jaded I have more experience than you. ”

    So almost 21 years is not enough experience?

    Believe me, I know that there have been plenty of problems in the Libertarian Party, but there is such a thing as being too negative and having a “glass is half empty” mentality.

    If things are so bad, why are you even here commenting on it? Why waste your time by coming here?

  6. Melinda Pillsbury-Foster

    Because, Andy, some people can still think themselves out of the box. I’m providing an opening, if some of them are interested. But I have lots of other outlets so if they all prove to be 60%ers it does not matter.

  7. paulie

    Nice video. I’m too lazy to search whether we previously posted it at the moment. Hopefully Andy did prior to posting it. It may well not have made it here before as we have been missing a lot of things the last few months. But even if it was posted before I would leave this up since it has gotten its own comments.

  8. Melinda Pillsbury-Foster

    The video is a failure not because it is bad PR but because it conveys an intentional misrepresentation of the LP. This ultimately produces former libertarians. This kind of misrepresentation is useful for raising funds.

  9. Great ideas

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