Jim Clymer is the current National Chairman of the Constitution Party and a former candidate for local, state, and federal offices in Pennsylvania for the CP. Recent FEC filings show that since May of 2009 he has donated over $17,000 to the Constitution Party National Committee, which means he is almost certainly the top donor to that committee.
Meanwhile, he has also donated to the campaigns of both Peg Luksik and Pat Toomey, $500 to the first, $250 to the latter. What is odd about this is that Jim Clymer, the National Chairman of the Constitution Party, is donating to two Republican candidates. What is most odd, though, is that these are two candidates who are opposing each other in the Republican primary for US Senate in PA. While Luksik is a former member of the CP and a former running mate of Clymer’s, Toomey is a lifelong Republican and the President of Club for Growth.

Lake, BS.
You change your posting handles constantly.
Although your style is easy to recognize…
Mark Seidenberg // Apr 9, 2010:
“To Cody Quirk,
I do not write under aliases.”
Me neither ……..
Proud American // Apr 19, 2010 at 5:07 pm
“…… and I will be voting for Robinson ……”
and Ed Noonan! If you are getting friends and family to register, remember that walking the county form to the local ROV is best and safest!
Also, the state wide SOS has a ‘one size fits all’ (counties) form which can substitute for the county form[s]!
I am and I will be voting for Robinson
Proud American: We need help, your help, on California’s AIP primary on Tuesday, June 8th, 2010! Get your self registered!
So Jim Clymer who endorses Chelene Nightingale for governor2010 has donated to republicans?? hahahah
hahah hypocrisy at its finest!!! This chelene nightingale is one strange weirdo. I heard her rantings against our troops and against our COUNTRY!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
she needs help
Cody Quirk // Apr 9, 2010:
even got a ‘personal congratulations’ autographed picture from George W. Bush for my efforts in the California Recall of Gray Davis.
Yet I’ve NEVER been registered GOP in my life.
Does that make me a Republican? ……… or [Lake] more proof that Space Cadet Captain Cody Quirk is just GOP Lite ?????
Mark Seidenberg, in comments noted above, smears Rayna King with a terrorist association by being given an award that a so-called terrorist also received. What Seidenberg does not note is his own personal corruption as recorded at TheCorruptionOfAlanKeyes.blogspot.com. Seidenberg, along with Mark Robinson and Ed Noonan, deliberately constructed false documents which they then filed with the California Secretary of State office as part of a Grand Theft conspiracy to advance their criminal enterprise. So while Seidenberg smears Rayna King by inference he personally is responsible for corrupt acts to both deceive the SOS office and defraud AIP voters.
Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Vice-Chairman American Independent Party, California branch of the Constitution Party
To Cody Quirk,
I do not write under any aliases. Do you now understand that the “other officers” at the AIP
state convention relate to the officer of that day
at the convention only?
Again what is the legal reason for using the name
of the suspended political body, viz., “Constitution Party of California” with only
five registered votes the last time I checked with
the OC Register of Votes?
Do you want to come down to Sacramento for the July 4th weekend and see the “fireworks”?
The demurrrer in King v. Robinson will be heard
at 9:oo a.m. on August 25, 2010 in dept. 2 in
Fairfield, CA or as Jim King thinks Fairfax, CA.
King is in error again. Fairfax, CA is in Marin County and Fairfield, CA is in Solano County.
The Court is in Solano County before Wm Harrison.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman,
American Independent Party
BTW Mark, how about you stop writing under different aliases?
It’s funny, I used to get GOP mail all the time asking for donations that addressed me as a member, and even got a ‘personal congratulations’ autographed picture from George W. Bush for my efforts in the California Recall of Gray Davis.
Yet I’ve NEVER been registered GOP in my life.
Does that make me a Republican?
Mark, you sound just like Reed Heustis, minus the religious elements.
TO: Jeromy Young,
Rayna P. Mike-King the “Republican Business Woman of the Year for 2002, 2003, & 2004 of
the National Republican Congressional Committee, with the help of her husband Jim King (as State Chairman of the AIP for the years
2002 – 2004) and (Credentials Chairman of AIP
for 2006) got past the credentials committee a
“bogus” pass and was purported “elected” to the
party offices of Chaplin and National Committee
Woman. On July 20, 2007, Don J. Grundmann voted to remove Rayna P. Mike-King from these
offices and central committee.
Then on June 28-29, 2008, she votes at a cabal
in the Los Angeles Westin Airport to elect Jim
King as purported “chairman of the AIP”.
Which was one week early of the convention
called to order by AIP party chairman Ed Noonan in Sacramento.
To Don Lake
That stench is a double dose.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman,
American Independent Party.
Jeremy Young // Apr 9, 2010 at 1:23 am
Wait, so we should oppose Jim King because his wife got an award at an event where a guy who later turned out to be Taliban also got an award? Quite a stretch.
………… quite a stench!
You can’t win a straw poll without grasping at straws 😛
Jeremy,
My thoughts exactly.
Wait, so we should oppose Jim King because his wife got an award at an event where a guy who later turned out to be Taliban also got an award? Quite a stretch.
TO: Cody Quirk,
In your post #24 you stated that “there is nothing wrong with donating to certain campaigns at all”. Does that view included
National Republican Congressional Committee?
In 2004, Rayna P. Mike-King (wife of Jim King
who is running for Lt. Governor of California on the AIP ticket) received her third award ” of Republican Business Woman of the Year”. At that time Mr. Abdul Tawala ibn Ali Alishtari, a.k.a. Michael Mixon received the award for being “Republican Business Man of the Year>”
On September 29, 2009 in the US District Court
for the Southern Court of New York Mr. Mixon
was convicted as a terrorist banker for the Talaban.
I guess some state parties are more equal than other state parties (a la Orwell 1984). Here in
the AIP under the California Election Code
if some one did what Jim Clymer did he would
have been booted our of the central committee.
My guess is each state party has it own rules of
members conduct and PA has no rules of party membership on donations to other party candidates.
Sincerely, Mark Seidenberg, Vice Chairman,
American Independent Party
On April 3, the Alabama Republican State Committee ruled that Charles McCallum may not appear on the party’s primary ballot for State House, 47th district. The reason is that in the past he has contributed money to some Democratic candidates.
[a] rank and file only ???????
[b] leadership folk, too ????????
[c] more proof that CPers are just GOP Lite ?????
There are some GOP candidates out there that act and speak like Constitutionalists, so there’s nothing wrong with donating to certain campaigns at all.
Some story.
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Nope
hooked to the AMA, as in American Management Association ????????
Project Management Professional 🙂
a professional credential granted by the Project Management Institute (PMI)
A pimp?
If you thought my questions were “snarky” I am sorry. They weren’t intended to be. I was genuinely interested in who would meet your criteria. (BTW, I actually am a PMP.)
NewFederalist // Apr 6, 2010:
“Well, that didn’t help much.”
Hmmmmmmmmm. Like a project manager asking, spontaneously and off the cuff for an estimate from the architect. Then using the same guestimate as a formal bid.
[a] with friends like NewFederalist …..
[b] any response from NewFederalist other than cat calls from Snark Ville ??????
[c] at least Lake gave some ‘no-go’ options!
[d] some times the facts ARE NEGATIVE!
I guess the lack of commentary made it seem negative even though it was really just the facts.
Well, that didn’t help much. How about a name or at least a symbol (like a Barry Goldwater clone or such…).
Some one more honest and ‘bridging’
[and be aware that I have seen not much
more than train wrecks. Even ‘heroes’ like
Perot and Nader are grossly imperfect
personalities. ……]
Profits, NGOs, government, if my biggest
two sub divisions were in civil war like
Texas and California, I would try to make
peace PERSONALLY with visits to the
various factions there in!
Not Baldwin, he may be a great preacher
but a lousy politician ………..
Not Grundmann, Quirk, Templin [a lawyer
and a seasoned campaigner and (unfortunately) experienced fence sitter] or that sorry sorry piece of rubbish Chelene Nightingale.
Patrick and Bay Buchanan are just too unethical and dishonest ……….
And definitely not me ………
I am lock step on inappropriate immigration [with less than ten percent of the planet’s land mass and less than ten percent of the globe’s populate the USA can not and will not solve the world’s problems]
I am lock step on many other issues, and very much the ‘guy they love to hate’ on a couple of core points.
Hmmmmmmm, some one whom puts professional management ahead of personality politics. Scientific organization ahead tribal efforts …………
Don Lake- who would you like to see running the CP? This is a serious question not intended to be spiteful in any way.
Trent Hill // Apr 6, 2010:
“ Clymer, I like him. Despite his friendliness towards pro-war folks like Keyes and Toomey, he has run the CP well ………….”
2000: reform movement
2004: Natural Law Party
2008: Constitution Party
……….. a veterans out reach that does not concern it self with former military issues; lose of direction; lose of the most popular state of the [dis] union; lose of Texas and other areas!
Basically, as badly as the GOP is doing, Claymer is the beginning of the end [a la Patrick and Bay Buchanan and the reform movement at Long Beach (California) in 2000] of the U. S. Tax Payer/ American Constitution Party.
My thots …………….. REgarding d.eris
“For a third party type to fiscally prop up a Dem or GOP ????????????????”
Indeed. It’s sometimes even hard to believe that Democrats and Republicans would themselves prop up Democrats and Republicans.
Jeremy,
Considering Peroutka’s history, yea–I’d say his max donation to Andy Harris is odd. Harris is pro-war, not for killing all abortion providers, not for stoning homosexuals, doesn’t ever mention “Biblical Law”–etc. Peroutka has spent the last ten years talking about those issues–and then he sends a max donation to what amounts to a run-of-the-mill Republican, basically.
“Based on the candidates that he donated to I believe that it represents principle over party. He did not donate to candidates running against Constitution Party candidates.
For the record I donated to Ron Paul and have helped other Republicans in other ways.”
I’m not trying to lash out at Clymer, I like him. Despite his friendliness towards pro-war folks like Keyes and Toomey, he has run the CP well and certainly puts his money where his mouth is.
It’s not strange that Peroutka gave money to Andy Harris. Harris is running for Congress in Peroutka’s home district, is more conservative than other potential candidates (in fact, the donation was probably intended to keep one such candidate out of the primary), and there is no Constitution Party candidate on the ballot. Also, it’s my understanding that Peroutka is no longer a member of the Constitution Party.
More generally, it’s an interesting quirk of our electoral system that Republicans generally allow paleoconservatives like Peroutka, Howard Phillips, and Richard Viguerie to drift in and out of third parties and still welcome them back into the Republican Party. Peg Luksik was a “spoiler” in at least one Republican race in the past, but she’s still welcome to run as a Republican in 2010. If a left-leaning third party member who had polled well against a Democrat (say, Cindy Sheehan) wanted to rejoin the party, the party would probably do everything it could to keep her out. On the other hand, Democrats are more amenable to members who endorse Republicans (as Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller did) than Republicans are to members who are perceived to be pro-Democratic (as, by a strange twist of logic, Hari Anne Smith is in a previous story here on IPR). It’s for this reason that Ron Paul is viewed with a lot more suspicion than Howard Phillips, because Republicans think of Paul as agreeing with Democrats on too many issues. They either don’t know or don’t care that Phillips was also anti-Iraq War.
I have gone out of my way to support, promote and vote non Democan and non Republicrat candidates. I have also voted [reluctantly] Dem and GOP on my limited plate. I have also written in ‘Mickey Mouse’ or ‘Donald Duck’ or ‘Goofy Dog’ from the early 1970s.
For a third party type to fiscally prop up a Dem or GOP ???????????????? Like the ‘Top Two’ campaigns, I am not 100% committed, but I do not think I like it. This is especially when focused upon ‘leader ship’. I still have a bad [very bad] taste in my mouth from 2004, say with Cobb – LaMarshe.
What I have learned about the CP, since 2004 at least, I am not all that surprised and can easily see duplicitous types like Grundmann, Quirk, Nightingale and even Templin ‘juggling’ ………..
Live and learn, live and learn …………
Based on the candidates that he donated to I believe that it represents principle over party. He did not donate to candidates running against Constitution Party candidates.
For the record I donated to Ron Paul and have helped other Republicans in other ways.
Where is Patricia LaMarche when we need confusion and disarray ?????????/
Any one see Jim King’s GOP wife ??????????
“Pretty impressive. Clymer ran for US Senate in 2004 and scored as high as 12% in one county, reaching double digits in 7-8 counties.”
I gathered petition signatures to put Jim Clymer on the ballot for that race.
In the 1998 race, the pair finished 2nd in 4 counties, placing as high as 40.7% in one county.
Pretty impressive. Clymer ran for US Senate in 2004 and scored as high as 12% in one county, reaching double digits in 7-8 counties.
Clymer later ran for Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Commissioner and scored 13% of the vote.
I also found that 2004 Presidential candidate Michael Peroutka donated $2400 to Republican Congressional candidate Andy Harris.
It isn’t that surprising that Clymer donated to Luksik. She ran for Governor as a CPer and got 13 percent in her 1994 third-party run, and 10 percent in her 1998 run. Jim Clymer was her Lt. Gov. each time.
Clymer, too, is a top vote getter for the CP. His local, state, and federal races have been well run, well financed, and have posted impressive results.