Libertarian Party blog and Monday Message: Convention, Tea Parties, and Boortz

Via http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/lp-monday-message-convention-tea-parties-and-boortz and email. IPR Note from Paulie: although this reposting is late as far the April 15 tea parties go, the rest is still relevant, and IMO it is relevant as far as providing a comment-accepting forum regarding what goes out over LP.org and the LP email list.


Dear Friend of Liberty,

Radio host Neal Boortz has been booted from our St. Louis National Convention speaker lineup. On April 2, Boortz told his listeners that voters should not support third parties in the 2010 and 2012 elections, in order to get Republicans elected. Shortly after, our convention committee chair jettisoned Neal Boortz from our speaker lineup. The LP Georgia and LP Texas have issued messages about it.

I know some of you will be glad to hear that Boortz was booted, and others will be disappointed. Either way, if you haven’t registered yet, please register for the National Convention. The Early Bird price was extended and expires again today. I apologize on behalf of the convention webmaster–the references to Boortz have not yet been removed from the website. Again, Boortz will not be a speaker at this year’s convention.

As you know, this Thursday, April 15 is tax day. There are a lot of tax day protests going on around the country. You can find a list of many such scheduled protests here.

We’ve created a flyer you can use to introduce people at these events to the Libertarian Party. I hope you’ll print out some copies of this flyer and hand them out at a tax protest or Tea Party in your area.

There has been much debate about whether Libertarians should work with the Tea Parties, recruit from them, or stay away from them. We’re taking a poll on this issue, and I want your feedback.

Sincerely,

Wes Benedict
Executive Director

Libertarian National Committee

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28 thoughts on “Libertarian Party blog and Monday Message: Convention, Tea Parties, and Boortz

  1. paulie Post author

    Meanwhile, see Poli-Tea

    http://politeaparty.blogspot.com/2010/04/boortz-affair-libertarian-politics-and.html


    Unless you’re a fan or a connoisseur of talk radio, you are probably not very familiar with Neal Boortz. Though he holds a number of Libertarian-leaning positions, the radio entertainer and political commentator is a staunch supporter of the global warfare state who allies himself with conservative Republicans, justified on the basis of a misguided analysis of Democratic-Republican Party politics. On April 2nd, Boortz announced that, though he is a Libertarian, he is against any and all advocacy of third party politics. Boortz stance is conditioned by his hysterical embrace of lesser-evilism:

    I’m a Libertarian. I’m a lifetime member of the Libertarian Party. I’ve voted for Libertarian candidates on the federal and local level for the past 15 years. Now what I’m going to say here is going to earn no small amount of rage from fellow Libertarian Party members . . .

    I believe with every fiber of my being that the survival of our Republic is dependent on removing as many members of the Democrat Party from the Congress as possible. The Party of Big Government must be removed from power. I’m not at all confident that America could survive another two years of Democratic control. This means that we must say no to third party movements. No doubt, the Republicans have been a huge disappointment. They vastly expanded government size and spending during the years they ran the show. They promised to get rid of the Department of Education. Instead, they doubled it’s size. Not good. The Republicans say they’ve learned their lesson. Have they? Don’t know. What I do know is that the Democrats are hell-bent on destroying economic liberty in this country.

    Boortz was right in thinking that Libertarians would not be pleased with his capitulation to the logic that sustains the Democratic-Republican political establishment, the two-party state and duopoly system of government. Many Libertarians have long been uncomfortable with Boortz’s positions relating to both foreign and domestic policy, see for instance the Boot Bortz Blog, which was maintained throughout 2003 and 2004 in opposition to Boortz’s scheduled appearance at the 2004 Libertarian Party national convention.

    Boortz was also scheduled to speak at this year’s Libertarian convention. On April 5th, three days after Boortz stated his opposition to third party advocacy and his reactionary embrace of duopoly ideology, the Libertarian Party announced that Boortz would be moved from his scheduled speaking slot. From the LP Blog, via Independent Political Report:

    Our speaker lineup continues to evolve and is always subject to change. One recent change is that Neal Boortz has been moved from the Sunday evening banquet dinner speaker position. We do expect Mr. Boortz to speak in a different time slot.

    Five days later, a press release from the Libertarian Party of Texas announced that Boortz had in fact been removed from the speaker’s lineup. From Independent Political Report:

    Syndicated radio talk show host Neal Boortz, a Libertarian Party member, has been uninvited as a speaker to the Libertarian Party’s national convention in St Louis the weekend of May 28 -31. Boortz stated on April 2 that voters should not support third parties in the 2010 and 2012 elections in order to get Republicans elected.

    Boortz had been a regular national convention speaker for the Libertarian Party through the 2004 convention in his home city of Atlanta. In 2008 he cancelled his appearance shortly before the convention to schedule some medical treatment. When the Libertarian Party removed him from the 2010 convention schedule due to his recent comments, Boortz removed himself again claiming he had medical treatment scheduled. [Emphasis added. Rumor has it that Boortz used the same excuse to get out of serving in Vietnam. -d.]

    “We do not need an unreliable and reluctant individual promoting the Republican Party to be given a speaking slot at our convention” said Texas state chair and national party committee member Pat Dixon. “We will have a great convention in St Louis and continue to offer voters a choice that neither the Republicans nor Democrats offer.” . . . .

    Dixon concluded “Neal Boortz has a very entertaining show has has been a great supporter of our party. Of course we respect anyone’s decision to support the candidates or party of their choice. We also get to choose who speaks at our convention, and at this time Neal is not a good choice.”

    Incidentally, it is worth noting that aside from a few warfare statist Republican Party trolls, the response in the comment thread at IPR is overwhelmingly in favor of Boortz’s removal from the speaker’s lineup. Yesterday, however, Boortz defensively emphasized that he withdrew from the speaking position and was in no way “removed” from the event, stating in reference to the press release at Independent Political Report:

    Sorry Mr. Butler, but you have this a bit wrong. Last week I instructed Belinda to inform the Libertarian Party that I would be unable to keep this speaking engagement for personal reasons.” According to Butler The Libertarian Party “removed me” from the schedule because of comments I made regarding voting for a 3rd party this November. Whatever, Mr. Butler. If you want to say that I was “booted” from the schedule, have at it. It’s your credibility that suffers, not mine.

    Boortz also reiterated the logic that motivates his support for the Republican wing of the professional political class and ruling establishment, but attempted to salvage his reputation among Libertarians with an addendum:

    We cannot afford a 3rd party effort this year if it is going to leave one single Democrat in office who otherwise might have been removed. I still plan to vote Libertarian in local elections

    Next he’ll be telling us that some of his best friends are Libertarians! Nonetheless, Boortz has done a service in providing such a succinct articulation of the reactionary political practice that is lesser-evilism. His support for the Republican wing of the ruling corporatist party is not predicated on support for the Republican wing of the ruling corporatist party – indeed, he admits that Republicans cannot be trusted either –, but rather on rejection of the Democratic wing of the ruling corporatist party. So long as American voters continue to allow themselves to be manipulated by the imaginary calculus of the greater and lesser evil that is Democratic-Republican Party politics, we will never be free of the evil that is Democratic-Republican Party government.


    p] Following the link back to Boortz’s blog

    http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2010/04/not-that-i-care-but-setting-th.html


    NOT THAT I CARE .. BUT SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT
    By
    Neal Boortz
    @ April 12, 2010 8:37 AM Permalink | Comments (28) | TrackBacks (0)

    If you will click here you can read a news release from something called the “Independent Political Report.” The headline is “Libertarian Party Boots Boortz.” The news release, written by Robert Butler of the Libertarian Party of Texas (512-758-9134) says that “Syndicated radio talk show host Neal Boortz, a Libertarian Party member, has been uninvited as a speaker to the Libertarian Party’s national convention in St Louis the weekend of May 28 -31.” Sorry Mr. Butler, but you have this a bit wrong. Last week I instructed Belinda to inform the Libertarian Party that I would be unable to keep this speaking engagement for personal reasons.” According to Butler The Libertarian Party “removed me” from the schedule because of comments I made regarding voting for a 3rd party this November.

    Whatever, Mr. Butler. If you want to say that I was “booted” from the schedule, have at it. It’s your credibility that suffers, not mine.

    By the way …. I have an email from a top-ranking official in the Libertarian Party who, after listening to my comments regarding voting for a 3rd party in November, is going to resign his position. Why? Because he felt that what I said made sense. We cannot afford a 3rd party effort this year if it is going to leave one single Democrat in office who otherwise might have been removed. I still plan to vote Libertarian in local elections .. but I simply cannot afford the luxury when it comes to the Congress.


    p] Neal apparently thinks we issue press releases rather than just (re)print them, but thanks for the link anyway, Neal. As far as I know this is the first time he has noted something I’ve done — in this case, reposting an LPTX press release).

    I tried to post a comment on his article that clarifies that we at IPR don’t issue press releases, we report on them.

    However it went into moderation queue, so we’ll see.

    Following up on d. eris reprint of my comment about Neal’s medical excuses, my source is John Sugg of Atlanta’s Creative Loafing.

    For example see http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/gyrobase/Content?oid=oid%3A14346 (emphasis added)


    Neal Boortz is no John Galt
    Libertarians will ensure their irrelevance if they embrace radio ignoramus
    Published 12.18.03
    By John F. Sugg

    b>Atlanta’s radio offerings are so, so, so very awful that, yes, on my drive to the office, in desperation I am forced to tune in to the city’s pinnacle (or is it pit?) of know-nothingness, Neal Boortz. But I have a rule. At his first lie, gross misrepresentation of the truth, or race baiting, I go to a book on tape. Often, I don’t make it out of the driveway. Seldom do I travel the five miles to I-85, and never have I completed the 30-minute drive to the Loaf without Boortz bellowing some deceitful absurdity.

    Neal dissembles, John hits the off button.

    For example, just last week Boortz proclaimed that the Bushies told no fibs to con Americans into supporting the war. Huh? I paused for a minute before switching on my current recorded book to make sure Boortz wouldn’t qualify that astounding fiction or giggle and say, “Just kidding,” since all the world now knows George Bush lied. So did Colin Powell, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and the rest of the contemptible gang. They politicized and distorted intelligence, and when that didn’t work, they fabricated and uttered gross untruths. They have even admitted it, but now claim it doesn’t matter.

    I sometimes jot down Boortz’s lamest deceits. It’s a long list. Ranking at the top was his hysterical claim, in the days before Bush’s invasion of Iraq, that Saddam Hussein’s military might surpass that of Nazi Germany. I slapped my forehead at that one — the claim went beyond mere bad information and makes me wonder if there isn’t serious impairment of Boortz’s reasoning capacity. The fellow needs a 12-step program for the chronically dishonest and incorrigibly stupid.

    The truth, by the way, was that in 1939 Adolf Hitler boasted 98 divisions, with 1.5 million well-trained men, for the invasion of Poland. For the Western offensive, Germany had 2.5 million men, and 2,500 tanks. In June 1941, Hitler had available 3 million men and 4,000 tanks to invade the Soviet Union. Saddam, prior to our invasion, never had more than 400,000 troops and 2,200 tanks, and the demoralized and largely broken-down Iraqi military was never in the same universe as the Wehrmacht.

    In other words, Boortz equals bullshit.

    I don’t want to argue the war here, but it was just so Boortzian for him to proclaim that pure lunacy as truth. And the sheep that follow him bleat their belief that they are actually getting “information.”

    That Boortz struts about touting himself as a libertarian would make his daily mission of mendacity a good laugh — except for one thing: For Big Brother to win, the Bush regime needs to bovine-ize America. Ignorance and the Orwellian capacity to simultaneously believe glaring contradictions are the essential intellectual diet of the Bushies. Force feeding America the swill are Faux News and the phalanx of talk show screechers, of which Boortz is, to his chagrin, merely a farm team lightweight.

    (In October a University of Maryland survey measured how much false information — such as that weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq — people believed and whether they primarily relied on Fox, CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN or print. Those relying on Fox were far less likely to know the truth about critical world and national issues, and far more likely to believe distortions of the truth. Boortz, of course, gets it wrong more often than the heavy-hitting propagandists he worships on Fox.)

    America needs real libertarians, whose origins are firmly rooted in the Bill of Rights. The Libertarian Party (libertarians with a big “L”) is holding its national convention in Atlanta in May, and the party has invited Boortz to be a speaker. I’m told by Libertarian activists the decision was rooted in the group’s cheapness — they didn’t want to foot the freight for major talent.

    Well, you get what you pay for — free traders such as the Libertarians should understand that. In lib — or Lib — ertarian land, there has been a howl of protest over the invitation to Boortz.

    One of the few points on which Boortz’s rants coincide with the Libertarians is ending the Drug War. Hell, there are a lot of tokers out there who can’t even spell Libertarian who are in tune with the party on that point.

    Boortz is no libertarian. He is a sorry shill for the Bush big-government, interventionist, xenophobic, authoritarian regime. Imposing our will on the world, looting resources and guaranteeing Halliburton billions in profits — that isn’t free trade; it’s empire. Gutting the Bill of Rights, spying on law-abiding citizens, manipulation through agitprop — that isn’t freedom; it’s slavery.

    “The Libertarian Party is so desperate, it has led them to abandon their issues in favor of seeking popularity,” says Eric Garris, who helps run a libertarian website, antiwar.com, and who has long been involved with the party at the national and state (California) levels.

    On the key issues confronting America, Boortz clearly stands on the side of those who attack freedom, and those who want to turn Big Government into Gargantuan Government (as long as someone besides rich people and corporations pay for it).

    Examples: He applauds the FBI investigating anti-war demonstrators, making a broad smear recently on his website (that could have been authored by Karl Rove, and maybe was) that activists should be hounded by the feds because they are “pro-Saddam and anti-U.S.,” and that they are “largely anti-American communists and Islamic radicals.”

    Likewise, in the same epistle, he applauded the police riot last month against trade demonstrators in Miami. I never met someone who claimed to be a libertarian but was so antagonistic toward the First, Fourth, Fifth and Sixth amendments. It just doesn’t compute.

    In Boortz’s best imitation of Joe McCarthy, he has insinuated that Justin Raimondo — a nationally prominent Libertarian since the 1970s and the prolific editor of anti-war.com — is a red. Raimondo “doesn’t like me,” Boortz huffed on his website last week, “because I approve of our actions in Iraq. Fair enough. Do you know who else doesn’t like our Iraqi actions? Well, communists, for one.”

    Slimey, slimey, slimey.

    On economics, Boortz worships Ronald Reagan — ignoring the fact that government grew much faster under the Gipper than under, say, Bill Clinton, who the talk show host blames for just about every ill that has ever happened (another script line from Karl Rove). And, of course, Boortz has nothing but gushing praise for Bush’s economics, somehow equating fiscal responsibility with pumping up government spending to $21,000 per American household, compared with $16,000 during the Clinton administration — the biggest increase in more than 50 years.

    That remarkably un-libertarian accomplishment, coupled with Bush’s tax cuts for the plutocrats, has created record deficits that will indenture our children and grandchildren — hardly what Ayn Rand, the spiritual guru for Libertarians, had in mind in Atlas Shrugged.

    It’s the war, however, that has real libertarians frothing at the invitation to Boortz. The Libertarian Party platform is decidedly anti-war, stating: “We call for the withdrawal of all American military personnel stationed abroad. … There is no current or foreseeable risk of any conventional military attack on the American people, particularly from long distances. We call for the withdrawal of the U.S. from commitments to engage in war on behalf of other governments and for abandonment of doctrines supporting military intervention such as the Monroe Doctrine.”

    Pretty clear writing, and it’s at the heart of Libertarian thought. An irony is that since Boortz is peachy happy with the FBI snooping on anti-war activists, and since most Libertarians are anti-war, the radio blowhard is all in favor of the government investigating the very people who invited him to address their convention. And, in the witch-hunting delusions that substitute for thought in Boortz’s diseased mind, it’s quite likely all those Libertarians are really either commies or radical Islamists.

    Boortz doesn’t like me. I outed him as a chickenhawk. He keeps changing the story about how he evaded military service during Vietnam (was it the asthma or your eyesight, Neal?). Last week, he was claiming the military wouldn’t take him. More precisely, when he couldn’t get a relatively cushy job as a pilot, he wasn’t about to get dirty (or dead) crawling through rice paddies. It’s so easy to be bellicose when it’s the other guy — probably an oh-so-expendable member of the working class and a minority — who is getting shot.

    But that’s Neal Boortz, the apotheosis of cowardice. He doesn’t like to debate when he can’t be in control. He keeps his finger on the disconnect button so that when callers start to score points, he can quickly cut them off.

    If that’s who the Libertarians want to hear, the party — already victim to several internal scuffles — might as well admit that it’s history. If its program is to imitate the Democrats’ emulation of the Republicans, the Libertarian Party stands for nothing.

    Neal Boortz was offered space for his unedited remarks on libertarians’ “boot Boortz” efforts. Boortz apparently preferred to pout in silence. For those who would like to sign the petition to give Boortz the heave-ho from the Libertarian convention: http://www.petitiononline.com/noboortz/petition.html.

    Senior Editor John Sugg — who says, “Neal, you gutless bag of wind, this is a challenge to a smackdown” — can be reached at john.sugg@creativeloafing.com or at 404-614-1241.

  2. Libertarian Party Totalitarian

    Libertarian Boortz is about to score a major victory….

    Inspiring Libertarian Party news…

    VAT coming soon…

    http://www.freepatriot-press.com/2010/04/vat-is-b-d.html

    Good news: the “FairTax” crowd may get half of what they want. The bad news: it’s the wrong half.
    Last week, the New York Post reported Paul Volcker former Federal Reserve Chairman (August 6, 1979 – August 11, 1987) and current White House Economic Advisor suggested imposing a “value added tax” (or VAT) similar to those charged in Europe to help get the deficit under control. Volcker told the global economic panel that a VAT is “not as toxic an idea as it has been in the past…. If, at the end of the day, we need to raise taxes, we should raise taxes.”

    The National Taxpayers Union writes, “The fact of the matter is that VAT would be a huge mistake, resulting in even more jobs lost and slower economic growth in a time when we cannot afford either. For those of you unfamiliar with the concept, VAT is a type of national sales tax levied on the “value added” to goods and services as they pass through each stage of the production process. While the VAT is a fixed percent of the final price, just like a retail sales tax, it differs from the current system because the cost of the VAT to consumers would be hidden. That’s right. You, the buyer, would be unable to differentiate between the price of a good and the amount you are paying for its tax.”
    Since the VAT is imposed at the wholesale level as well as the retail level, it becomes difficult to avoid the tax via buying over the Internet, opening a business, buying at wholesale, buying products through an employer etc.

    The NTU continues, “Furthermore, the VAT would lead to even bigger government (if you can imagine), as we see in Europe, and increase potential for special exemptions and hidden tax breaks by well-connected industry lobbyists. Cato’s Dan Mitchell points out that the VAT is “linked with higher overall tax burdens and more government spending.” Europe’s income taxes are higher today than when VATs were implemented, and its collective tax burden has increased to 40%. Similarly, government spending in EU-15 nations hovers around 47% of GDP, compared to 30% in 1965.”

    While not exactly the proposal of the FairTax crowd, it’s half of what they want. I’ve not heard the FairTaxers explain how shifting a tax burden from income to consumption would reduce spending, only that somehow it’s “easier” to repeal the 16th Amendement and abolish the IRS and pass the “FairTax” than it is to repeal the 16th, abolish the IRS & eliminate unconstitutional spending, which would create a balanced budget. It seems to me they don’t have a problem with the spending, just the form of taxation. The NTU adds, “…the FairTax would be a COMPLETE replacement of the current tax code. The VAT would be added on top of existing burdens! Taxpayers would undeniably suffer for the poor economic policy decisions of a desperate administration. It might be different if Congress repealed all income taxes and put a VAT in their place, but that is not realistic thinking, nor what Volcker was suggesting.”
    Posted by SouthernPatriot

  3. paulie Post author

    Mr. Milnes, may we suggest getting to St. Louis by horse drawn carriage?

    Do it with style, do it with gusto…

  4. paulie Post author

    Mr. Milnes, may we suggest getting to St. Louis by horse drawn carriage?

    Do it with style, do it with gusto…

  5. Walks With Phallus

    Limo? Heh.

    Our sources tell us Boortz was to fly in on his own broom.

    How are you with flying on brooms?

  6. Libertarian Party fan

    And from the LP of Georgia

    http://www.lpgeorgia.com/blog.php?article=146

    Dear Neal,

    Since 1993, you have been sharing with Atlanta listeners your brand of libertarianism on WSB Radio, eventually becoming syndicated to reach over 5 million talk radio listeners nationwide each day. For those of us who have listened to you since 1993, your post on boortz.com on Good Friday about your thoughts on a “third party” came as no surprise, and the Libertarian Party of Georgia would like to thank you for going on record so early in this election year, one that is likely to be painted with stories of incumbents retiring, fighting off primary challengers, and battling upstart candidates down to the wire on election day, with your rhetoric about “The Party of Big Government.”

    Every election, we wait for your October stumping for the Republican wing of “The Party Of Big Government,” but you have done us many favors by announcing in April that you believe in furthering the statist quo (no that’s not a typo), by showing your support in perpetuating the “lesser of two evils” myth.

    “I believe with every fiber of my being that the survival of our Republic is dependent on removing as many members of the Democrat Party from the Congress as possible. The Party of Big Government must be removed from power. I’m not at all confident that America could survive another two years of Democratic control.”

    You are right, Neal. The Party of Big Government must be removed from power, but you suggest to your listenership to ignore those of us that ACTUALLY believe in smaller government, lower taxes, and more freedom in favor of the wing that you admit has “been a huge disappointment,” Big Government’s Republican wing. For years, both the Democratic and Republican wings of the Big Government Party have perpetuated that statist quo (again, not a typo) myth that only one of them can “fix” things that the “other guys” screwed up. Each election, those promises are made and subsequently broken. For example:

    “They [Republicans] vastly expanded government size and spending during the years they ran the show. They promised to get rid of the Department of Education. Instead, they doubled it’s [sic] size. Not good. The Republicans say they’ve learned their lesson. Have they?”

    Have they, Neal? After “vastly expand[ing] government size and spending,” has the 3 years and a couple months away from majority control of the legislature or the year and a couple months of being without executive power really changed them? The faces are still the same…. Boehner (10th term), McConnell (5th term), Kyl (3rd term), and Cantor (5th term) were all in office during the years that Republicans “vastly expanded government size and spending.” They are the leadership team that is supposed to stop the Democrats from “destroying economic liberty”?

    To wrap up, thank you for starting to stump for the Republicans earlier than normal this year. We fully expect you to be back at being your most libertarian on November 3rd, the day AFTER the midterm election.

    Sincerely,

    Brett Bittner

    Operations Director
    Libertarian Party of Georgia

  7. Concerned Citizen

    Has Robert Milnes ever shown up at a Libertarian Party event? I think I read here years ago that he did show up to an LP convention in New Jersey. Is this why he gets more commentary about him than Catholic Trotskyist, who never identified himself in public?

  8. Concerned Citizen

    I think Don Grundman should be the LP speaker instead of Boortz. He has done a lot to defend the children of America, which makes him worthy of libertarian honor even if he disagrees on a few issues.

  9. Paulie

    Has Robert Milnes ever shown up at a Libertarian Party event?

    One that I know of.

    It was a PA/NJ/maybe some other states regional convention in the Philadelphia area in early 2008.

    Milnes lives in the adjacent portion of NJ across the river. He was afraid he couldn’t scrape together enough gas money, but somehow made it at the last minute. There used to be a video of him in a debate at TPW, but the site is defunct. Maybe someone saved a copy, I don’t know.

  10. Andy

    “By the way …. I have an email from a top-ranking official in the Libertarian Party who, after listening to my comments regarding voting for a 3rd party in November, is going to resign his position. Why? Because he felt that what I said made sense. We cannot afford a 3rd party effort this year if it is going to leave one single Democrat in office who otherwise might have been removed. I still plan to vote Libertarian in local elections .. but I simply cannot afford the luxury when it comes to the Congress.”

    I don’t know who the Libertarian Party official who resigned to whom Neal Boortz is refering, but I say good riddance to whoever it is. Anyone who believes that voting for Republicans (other than of the Ron Paul variety) is going to save us should not hold a position in the Libertarian Party.

    Boortz is a Republican shill. I hope that he never speaks a Libertarian Party convention ever again.

  11. Hmmmmmmmmm .......... Lake

    Andy // Apr 17, 2010:

    “Republicans (other than of the Ron Paul variety) ……….. should not hold a position in the Libertarian Party. Boortz is a Republican shill. I hope that he never speaks at a Libertarian Party convention ever again.”

    and Bruce Cohen, and Brian Holtz, and W. A. R. and what is so wonderful and special ’bout ‘No Abortions’ Doctor Ronald Paul ????????

    While on the look out for Boortz and TEA Parties, do not ignore Ron Paul and Rand Paul. A mole is a mole is a mole.

  12. Hmmmmmmmmm .......... Lake

    Concerned Citizen // Apr 17, 2010 at 2:11 am

    “I think Don Grundman should be the LP (convention) speaker instead of Boortz ……. ”

    “If you think ‘roving gangs of Predatory Homo sexuals’ * ” and publicly taught ‘sexual fisting’ Doctor “I’m gonna punch you out and kick the back of your court seat chair” Donald J. Grundman is Lib material, then let the controversies begin.

    If you think Socio Path Captain Cody Quirk (lie after lie after lie) is a space cadet —- then Doctor Goo Goo is senior orbital staff.

    Good luck to ‘Concerned Citizen’ whom obviously has only the best interest of the Libs at heart ——— Not!

  13. Robert Milnes

    Dennis @13, last time I looked at my 2008 campaign website it had a link to that video. It was LP PA/NJ regional convention. I responded to two or 3 questions like the other candidates. About 10 candidates showed, Badnarik was the moderator.

  14. Robert Milnes

    Let me drop a few names of who was there & who wasn’t. Root-there. Barr not. Gravel/Ruwart not. Kubby not. Phillies there. Smith-there. Jim Burns-there. Link-there. Jackson-there. Jingozian-there.

  15. Robert Milnes

    paulie is accurate & correct as usual. It was close enough that I could make it by driving within an hour or 2. I put the fee & gas on credit card.

  16. Jeremy Young

    I thought Ken Krawchuk was the moderator. I remember him putting in a plug for Toastmasters.

  17. paulie Post author

    Dennis @13, last time I looked at my 2008 campaign website it had a link to that video. It was LP PA/NJ regional convention. I responded to two or 3 questions like the other candidates. About 10 candidates showed, Badnarik was the moderator.

    Unless I am mistaken, that link was to the now defunct third party watch site.

    I don’t know whether a copy of the video is still up somewhere or not.

  18. Hmmmmmmmmmmm .......... Lake

    Why did Bruce Cohen contact don lake as another name ??????????/

    Why did Bruce Cohen ask personal questions ??????

    Why did the original response bounce ????????

    Why did Bruce ‘play dumb’ on Lake’s response ???????

    Nothing like integrity in politics! Nothing!

    When will IPR update Chelene Nightingale ‘s status as FORMER director of ‘Save Our State’ ?????? I mean the truth is important isn’t it ???? Or does IPR have a vested interest in not having Do Nothing Nightingale publicly spanked on Tuesday June 8th ??????

  19. paulie Post author

    When will IPR update Chelene Nightingale ’s status as FORMER director of ‘Save Our State’ ?

    Is she misidentified as the current director somewhere at IPR, or what are you talking about?

    Or does IPR have a vested interest in not having Do Nothing Nightingale publicly spanked on Tuesday June 8th ?

    Of course not. We as a site take no stances on who should win, or run in, any party’s primary. Individual IPR writers have their own opinions.

    Speaking for myself only, I wouldn’t mind watching her get spanked, spanking her myself, or both 😛

  20. Bruce Cohen

    I think Chelene’s Husband might not let you watch her getting spanked. I guess he’s a big, tough, punker that now does construction for his own company.

  21. paulie Post author

    I think Chelene’s Husband might not let you watch her getting spanked. I guess he’s a big, tough, punker that now does construction for his own company.

    Well then, and if so, that’s his business and hers. Not a big loss, since there are plenty of other good looking women who don’t mind being watched while they get spanked.

  22. paulie Post author

    BTW, not that I really care, but “a big, tough, punker that now does construction for his own company” sounds like a very oddly specific thing to “think” and/or “guess”. Do you know Chelene and/or her husband personally, or is this some odd form of conjecture, or what?

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