Sam Sloan files Libertarian petitions for Governor of NY

As posted at onthewilderside:

Until August 17, 2010 (Tuesday), statewide candidates running as independents, or on the lines of some third parties, can file their independent nominating petitions in Albany. At the NY State Board of Elections web-site, you can watch the petitions come in. Link for the constantly updated list is: here.

As reported previously at Independent Political Report, the Sam Sloan petitions are rival petitions to the candidate chosen by the Libertarian convention, Warren Redlich. These petitions insert Sam Sloan as Governor Candidate, and then copy the other slate from the Redlich petitions.

Latest petitions filed for statewide office in New York:

A slate of Libertarian candidates:

Sam Sloan for Governor
Alden Link for Lt. Governor
John Gaetani for Comptroller
Carl Person for Attorney General
For Senator: John Clifton and Randy Credico

So far, the only other candidates listed as filing is a slate led by Carl Paladino under the TXP, Taxpayers Party line.

26 thoughts on “Sam Sloan files Libertarian petitions for Governor of NY

  1. Kimberly Wilder Post author

    This is an interesting development. Sam Sloan and slate do have time and the ability to file more signatures. Though, so far, they are not looking very successful with only 33 pages filed.

    I kind of think (hope someone will research better), that with Independent Nominating petitions, being the first to file gives one precedence to use the name of the party.

    So, even though the convention chose Warren Redlich, I see this filing as Sam Sloan trying to set himself up for a battle and lawsuit to claim rights to the Libertarian line.

    The other people on Sam Sloan’s slate also make his candidacy/petitions look stronger. He has some serious Libertarians and political activists who were in this with him (if they consented to be on his petitions).

  2. Kimberly Wilder

    Oh! I think Sam Sloan just took the names from the slate of candidates who are with the convention-approved candidate. Very interesting. So, that slate might not have even known about Sam Sloan’s plan…

  3. Eric Sundwall

    Kim – They know as of yesterday. Sam’s “Appeal” is being filed Tues.

    Unless the universe takes a serious turn for the bizarre, both the BOE and judge will put this all to a rest. Although, I’m sure in Sam’s mind, this is an even better path to the Supremes.

    As good libertarians, challenging any submitted petition has dubious merits. In this case, if we have to, it is probably prudent given the horrific chance that the BOE somehow finds in favor of our now twice booted (State & local) Mr. Sloan.

  4. Paulie

    As reported previously at Independent Political Report, these are rival petitions to the candidate chosen by the Libertarian convention, Warren Redlich. These petitions insert Sam Sloan as Governor Candidate, and then copy the other slate from the Redlich petitions.

    Was the first “these” supposed to be a “there”? Or a link?

  5. Trent Hill

    I’m interested to see what happens with Paladino’s party. If they get 50k–they could see a takeover from LP and CP types.

  6. Kimberly Wilder

    I have been thinking about the name “Taxpayers Party”

    There is value in that many people would identify with that title, and it makes you think about taxes.

    Though, Jesse Jackson, Jr. suggested in one of his books that when black people see “taxpayer”, they often find it code for “white people that want to disenfranchise us”. I have thought about that in relation to “Civic and Taxpayers Associations” in my area that are very white and conservative.

    But, the funny thing I thought of is this…

    When I have thought of angles to empower people, buzzwords to create community, or titles for local groups, I often think first of “citizen.” But, then, I am reminded that some people would think “citizen” leaves out undocumented immigrants.

    Perhaps the “Taxpayers Party” is more enlightened than many other groups. Undocumented workers pay many taxes – property tax, sales tax, etc. Perhaps the Taxpayers Party means to include undocumented folks under its umbrella. (Or, perhaps, their name will inadvertently cause that to happen…)


  7. Sane LP member

    Reading this mess, I am glad that Ohio can only qualify candidates to the November round of elections via a Party Primary in either March or May. Yes, it is run by the State of Ohio, but avoids this mess.

  8. paulie

    Tom Stevens sends this:

    LP Activists:

    Sam Sloan beat Warren Redlich to the New York State Board of Elections and filed petitions to be the Libertarian Party candidate for Governor. Warren Redlich will now be asked to select a different party name by the Board of Elections, which will not make the LNC too happy after they pissed away $25,000.00 to see an LP candidate on the ballot for Governor of New York State this year.

    But Redlich might still appear as the LP candidate under a number of different possible scenarios.

    Full story and possible scenarios at:

    In Liberty,

    Dr. Tom Stevens
    Empire State Libertarians

  9. Eric Sundwall

    Why Mr. Stevens even bothers to perpetuate this pathetic ruse for Sloan can only be surmised in their own wistful fantasy scenario.

    Both have been stomping around like young children since the beginning of the year. Dozens of volunteers, party activists and candidates have been busily doing the real work while these two piss and moan.

    Nothing will come of this and any claim that either have with or on the party have been rightfully purged.

  10. wolfefan

    I’m always amused when people refer to themselves in the third person, as Stevens does in his blog. Is he a lawyer? I ask since he offers his legal opinion – how much weight is that worth? (not a snarky question – genuinely wondering)

  11. Marc Montoni


    Here we go again.

    Sloan and Stevens fight for their little petty fiefdom, while there’s serious work to be done…

    Get a grip, guys.

  12. Dr. Tom Stevens

    I am a lawyer and I only have a J.D. but I have also taught on a college level since 1982. Since I never taught full time, my students called me Dr. Stevens since I was technically not a Professor.

    As for how much weight you should give my legal opinion, all I can say is that when I give my opinion, I do not alter it in order to promote any particular outcome. I try to be objective.

  13. Dr. Tom Stevens

    Eric Sundwall, Campaign Manager for Warren Redlich, reported on August 15, 2010 that “general and specific objections have been filed…by an attorney” to the petition submitted to the New York State Board of Elections on behalf of Sam Sloan.

  14. Robert Capozzi

    omg, imagine the INCEPTION of all this? How many dream levels would we need to go down and manipulate to make this right?

  15. Eric Sundwall

    rc – the rotten apples rating on this is two. While this wasn’t written by the Nolan, certainly the inception not to support the LPNY was planted.

    The ‘objective’ is obviously to disrupt and malign. Both the ‘Dr.’ and the idiot savant have been living in a surreal political limbo for years.

    We submit over 33K of petition signatures today, rather than 33 pages of fraudulent tripe. There’s really no question about who is dreaming and who is awake here.

  16. Robert Capozzi

    es: The ‘objective’ is obviously to disrupt and malign.

    me: Yes, it certainly appears so. It might be interesting to know what the moment of “disappointment” was, and what led to so much apparent confusion. Where did I put that IV? 😉

    Never underestimate the power of denial. Whether the top keeps spinning on this level…we’ll find out!

  17. Robert Capozzi

    this could be fun…casting a L Inception team. My picks’d be:

    Tom Knapp for Leonardo DiCaprio as Dom Cobb, the Extractor, a professional thief who specializes in conning secrets from his victims by infiltrating their dreams.

    Jim Davidson for Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Arthur, the Point Man, Cobb’s partner and the man responsible for researching the team’s targets.

    George Phillies for Ken Watanabe as Saito, the Tourist, a businessman who employs Cobb for the team’s mission, and insists on being a member.

    Carol Moore for Ellen Page as Ariadne, the Architect, a graduate student who is recruited to construct worlds in which the dreams take place.

    Tom Blanton for Tom Hardy as Eames, the Forger, a sharp-tongued associate of Cobb’s. Eames uses his ability to take the form of others in order to manipulate Fischer in Fischer’s dreams.

    Paulie Cannoli for Dileep Rao as Yusuf, the Chemist from Mombasa, who formulates the drugs needed to sustain the team members’ dream states.


  18. Robert Capozzi

    oh, and

    Susan Hogarth for Marion Cotillard as Mal Cobb, the Shade, Dom Cobb’s deceased wife and a frequent, malevolent presence in Dom’s dreams.

  19. JT

    Robert: “omg, imagine the INCEPTION of all this? How many dream levels would we need to go down and manipulate to make this right?”

    A) Is anyone else repeatedly mentioning Inception here, nevermind casting an “L Inception Team”? You’re bizarre. B) Just a point of information: only young girls use “omg”. Sorry.

  20. Robert Capozzi

    jt, thanks for the feedback…I was going for bizarre, so it seems I’ve succeeded!

    This Sloan turn of events is so insane that it seems appropriate to solve the problem at a different level.

  21. JT

    Robert: “jt, thanks for the feedback…I was going for bizarre, so it seems I’ve succeeded!”

    Were you going for the young girl part too?

    Robert: “This Sloan turn of events is so insane that it seems appropriate to solve the problem at a different level.”

    So you’re solving a problem by creating a fantasy Libertarian Inception team? Okay, carry on.

  22. Robert Capozzi

    jt, thanks for sharing conventional thoughts.

    Not wanting to give away too much on INCEPTION, but the premise is that we each have a fatal flaw that is generally buried very deep in our unconscious mind. The flaw is based on a mistaken perception. From that mistake springs layers upon layers of stories/dreams/misperceptions about ourselves and our world.

    What’s that have to do with this Sloan situation? Nothing and everything. It’s on one level completely off-point from a linear perspective. But, it’s likely really on point as a metaphor; indeed, it strikes the root.

    I cannot imagine that Sloan is doing this with his right mind. I don’t know him, never met him, etc. Yet, it’s unimaginable to me that this counter-filing has any utility, aside from Eric’s idea that it satisfies a nihilistic impulse.

    Short of an “inception,” perhaps an “extraction” is called for 😉 (Sorry, gotta see the flick to get any of this comment.)

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