Link to C-SPAN’s coverage of the Libertarian 2016 National Convention official Presidential debate

Via Chris Lesiak on a prior post:

Here is a link to CSPAN’s coverage of the debate starting now:

http://www.stream2watch.co/live-now/live-tv/us/c-span-live-stream

31 thoughts on “Link to C-SPAN’s coverage of the Libertarian 2016 National Convention official Presidential debate

  1. Dave

    Has this been the LP convention to get the most mainstream press? I’ve only really followed 2008/12, but it seems like this one Trumps them in terms of the articles I’ve seen.

  2. AMcCarrick

    Austin Cassidy…. Money. Funds have been on a steady decline since the 1990s. They keep nominating purists, paleo-conservatives, and just out and out social conservatives as their nominee and people just lose interest. It’s always somebody who’s too pure to be market-able to more than 0.1% of the public or their selecting nominees that in no way reflect their actual platform or ideology.

    Barr in 2008 is a perfect example. Petersen this election cycle is another perfect example. They have never run an electable ticket. They actually have the opportunity to do that this election cycle, but I have a feeling in about 9 hours they’re going to blow it. They’ll probably see Petersen take it, he’ll get 3% of the vote this general election because of the far-right Republicans he pulls. The purists and minarchists (like myself) will be absolutely disgusted and leave the party. In 4-8 years when Trump is no longer an issue all of these Republicans will head back the GOP and the LP will be without a support base and without funding.

    The only electable candidate right now is someone who is a centrist classical liberal, not a border line anarchist and not a paleo-conservative.

  3. Austin Cassidy

    I just finished watching this. Terrible moderator… not great questions… otherwise it was the usual LP debate.

    Marc Feldman had a colorful closing statement. He’s learned all the right things to say to sound like a life-long Libertarian purist. But isn’t this the same guy that a year or so ago said he’d never voted and had never followed politics? Just seems odd.

    Johnson’s closing statement, and several of his other answers, absolutely sucked.

    Even still, they should nominate Gary Johnson and Bill Weld. Give them both a “Pretty Woman” makeover with new suits and haircuts… and then the campaign should immediately hire Austin Petersen as a speechwriter.

  4. Be Rational

    “… they should nominate Gary Johnson and Bill Weld. Give them both a “Pretty Woman” makeover with new suits and haircuts… and then the campaign should immediately hire Austin Petersen as a speechwriter.” – Austin Cassidy

    This.

  5. Austin Cassidy

    AMcCarrick: Maybe it’s money, but I can’t imagine it would be all that expensive to decorate that hall a bit more. They just sold a poster for $5,500 or something.

    I sincerely hope they have something planned for once the ticket is selected. There needs to be a good photo op for the media. This is a show. Put the candidates on stage, good signage… maybe some balloons or confetti. After a minute, their families come up to join them.

    I’d want to blast some kind of goofy pop-rock over the sound system and make it seem like a mob scene in that hall: https://youtu.be/jZhQOvvV45w

    The media is actually covering this for once, it’s not just C-SPAN. This needs to look like a viable party and a viable alternative ticket.

    There’s a chance MSNBC might take Johnson’s acceptance speech live. It needs to be good – not him just walking up to a podium with a potted plant behind him and saying “Jeepers, uhhh… thanks you guys… let’s do the best we can… because with a broad bush stroke… blah, blah, blah”

  6. T Rex

    My opinion as a registered Libertarian (switched from the Greens due to their centralized statism) and long-time lurker..

    From an ideological standpoint, Perry is my favorite candidate. I love his radicalism and found it telling that he was the only candidate on stage to condemn the horrific US actions during WWII. He’s also great at taking hard-core libertarian stances without sounding like some conservabot Club for Growf shill.

    From a practical standpoint, though, I have to go with Petersen as the best candidate. We need someone more feisty, more energetic, more provocative, hell…even more trollish than usual. The last thing we need is another boring, lackluster, zero-energy campaign from Johnson/Barr/insert-ex-Republican-here.

    Gary Johnson and Jill Stein (Green Party candidate) have the most dull and unimaginative social media pages I’ve ever seen. For Christ’s sakes, add some humor or energy on that Twitter page somewhere! Take cruel and provocative shots at Trump and Clinton…say controversial shit just to turn heads…hell, just do SOMETHING to keep us awake.

    After watching the debate, I am convinced that Johnson is the WORST (and least libertarian) candidate out of every single person on the stage. He seemed timid about ending the Fed, and his FairTax plan is the same garbage that Mike Huckabee advocated in his recent presidential run. At the very least, we should have a tax plan more radical than Mike Huckabee….seriously.

    Unfortunately, the narcoleptic Johnson will likely get the nod. And it’s a damn shame. In an election season where voters are demanding radical ideas and outsider candidates, we are about to nominate two moderate Republicans, for no reason except that they were governors.

    If Johnson DID get into the real debates, Hillary and Trump would rip him to shreds. He is a weak and uninspiring debater.

    We will see what happens, friends. I can only hope someone other than Johnson will get a chance this time around.

  7. Darcy G Richardson

    “From an ideological standpoint, Perry is my favorite candidate. I love his radicalism and found it telling that he was the only candidate on stage to condemn the horrific US actions during WWII.” — T Rex

    That’s a great observation. At the very least, one might have thought any Libertarian seeking the presidency would have vigorously condemned the use of atomic bombs during World War II, especially the brutal bombing of Nagasaki only three days after the United States, demonstrating little or no patience, dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima — a breathtakingly cruel and devastating blast that instantaneously incinerated tens of thousands and eventually killed as many as 166,000 men, women and children — without waiting to see if Japan was willing to surrender.

    The saintly and intrepid Norman M. Thomas — the perennial Socialist candidate for president and the country’s greatest civil libertarian — was one of the few public figures to speak out against the bombings at the time.

    Gary Johnson’s response was pathetic, as were those of three others on the stage. It’s beyond the pale that more than seventy years later, the leading candidates for the Libertarian Party’s presidential nomination would hesitate to criticize what was clearly one of the most barbaric military actions in human history.

  8. T Rex

    Agreed, Darcy. Harry Truman, like all too many US presidents, was a war criminal.

    It’s amazing that only Perry has enough sense to see that mass murder is wrong.

  9. Freudian slip

    What was going on with the convention when did the Herd outburst happened? Peralo blames Will Coley. Context please!

  10. Darcy G Richardson

    “Agreed, Darcy. Harry Truman, like all too many US presidents, was a war criminal. It’s amazing that only Perry has enough sense to see that mass murder is wrong.” — T Rex

    You’re right — and it is amazing that Darryl was the only candidate with a decent response to the question. I wish I could have done more for his long-shot candidacy, but I’m glad that I was able to make a couple of small contributions — in bitcoins, of course — to his campaign.

    He’s a really good guy and one of the most principled libertarians in the country.

  11. Freudian slip

    Sorry. I mean what was going on with the convention when the Herd outburst happened? Peralo blames Will Coley. Could someone provide some context behind the outburst?

    #GaryJohnsonIsAPieceOfShit

  12. robert capozzi

    a candidate making an issue of something (horrific) that happened in WWII?

    Where does it end? Condemnations of Eve over the apple incident? 😉

  13. Krzysztof Lesiak

    Wow, that Herd video was entertaining, especially at the beginning. I agree with Freudian slip, I’d love to know some context behind that outburst.

  14. Krzysztof Lesiak

    “You’re not a real man till you get arrested.”
    – Mark Herd

    That’s a killer quote. Now I know that I first became a real man 3 years ago upon arrest for 3 grams of weed and paraphernalia. Getting shackled is manly. Fuck yeah.

  15. NewFederalist

    “Where does it end? Condemnations of Eve over the apple incident? ?” – Robert Capozzi

    That would be a sexist microaggression! Adam was culpable as well.

  16. paulie Post author

    That would be a sexist microaggression! Adam was culpable as well.

    Adam and Eve were entrapped.

  17. paulie Post author

    Wow, that Herd video was entertaining, especially at the beginning. I agree with Freudian slip, I’d love to know some context behind that outburst.

    Freudian Slip, Kareem Caliente and others are known pseudonyms of Nathan Norman. IPR editors, please mark them as spam (not trash, spam) as soon as you see them, regardless of whether the comment itself is innocuous or not. Everyone else, including IPR editors, please do not respond to such comments if you catch them before they are deleted. If any IPR editors want to revisit this policy please take it up on the email list.

  18. Jon

    I agree with the comment above that the Libertarian Party fails year after year to offer the voters an electable ticket. This year they do have that opportunity in a Johnson-Weld ticket, but after hearing comments from party leaders on tv I have serious doubts that will come to fruition. I get the clear impression the inmates are running the asylum and after watching the debate last evening I’m convinced the asylum is where the candidates (with the exception of Johnson) are coming from.

    The Libertarian Party this year has a unique opportunity to move from the shadows of the fringes and into the mainstream as a viable alternative to the Democrats and Republicans. Yet, from everything I’ve seen thus far its leaders and members have ingested so much fruitcake and nuts that they’ll prefer to keep the party in la la land. Oh well, maybe the new Whig Party will fill the void.

  19. Be Rational

    That photo of Dr. Feldman helping an injurerd pedestrian in the parking lot was inappropriate for TV. Sorry. it’s a good story but bad photo to put on the air.

  20. paulie Post author

    Oh well, maybe the new Whig Party will fill the void.

    Good luck with that. Call me when you have cash in hand for ballot access, or good luck to your volunteer petitioners.

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