The Prohibition Party of New York has launched a new public awareness initiative highlighting the link between alcohol consumption and cancer. The party’s Alcohol and Cancer Awareness Initiative aims to educate state residents about the established health risks associated with alcohol use and encourage broader discussion on the issue.
“Alcohol has been categorized by the WHO as a group 1 carcinogen since 1988. Research has shown that cancer risks increase based on the amount and frequency of alcohol use, with even light alcohol use increasing cancer risks,” reads a statement published Thursday. “Despite this, public awareness of the link between alcohol and cancer remains low, with studies showing that only a fraction of Americans are aware that alcohol use poses a cancer risk.”
As part of its efforts, the Prohibition Party of New York plans to collaborate with state and local organizations involved in substance use prevention, cancer awareness, and public health advocacy. The initiative will also include outreach to state agencies, county health departments, and other relevant groups to promote education on alcohol-related cancer risks.
Additionally, the party will engage in public outreach by mobilizing individuals who are interested in advocacy around the initiative and utilizing strategies such as social media campaigns, local media engagement, and online petitioning.
Last October, the Prohibition Party of New York wrote that it would begin focusing on single-issue projects to establish a stronger presence and identify local allies before expanding into broader advocacy efforts. “In order to do this, we must forge connections with community groups, health organizations, educators, faith groups, historians, and the like, convince them of these things, and work with them to help inform the public,” the party wrote at the time.
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Lie, insult, project, repeat, and contradict yourself endlessly is indeed what you are doing, Roman-wannabibi-Shukhevich. But while you may be birdbrained, you are certainly no woman – neither a “baby girl” nor “mom”. You are no parent – neither mother nor father. Nor are you a spouse – neither wife nor husband. You are merely a pathetic banderite coming up with one tall tale after another but too lazy and incompetent to sell any of them. U+1F60F
Those who need to see the evidence already have it. Anyone else who wishes to independently verify it – you know those people you say don’t exist – can start here:
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2024/12/libertarian-party-of-california-chair-responds-to-judicial-committee-ruling-on-convention-postponement/#comments
with additional circumstantial evidence in this comment section and here:
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2025/01/lnc-chair-announces-inauguration-celebration-in-d-c/#comments
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2025/02/february-2025-monthly-news-open-thread/#comments
and draw their own conclusions.
Endlessly pretending otherwise will not change that. Living in denial of your evil will not erase it or undo it. And your wishful thinking and empty blustering are not going to make the Spetsluzhbi dematerialize anymore than they will Christ come Judgement Day…
You should have thought of that before attempting to steal valor or threatening torture and rape, Romaskha.
If you didn’t want the filth you spewed, and threatened, and boasted about, to come back to bite you, then perhaps you shouldn’t have spewed it in the first place.
Perhaps, you should not have started out by spamming the same off-topic copy-pasta comparing me to an animal as you did on BAN – especially given your history of bestiality, which you were all to happy to “drunkenly” boast about on BAN when threatening me and my loved ones with rape and torture.
Perhaps you should not have committed to this stupid feigned ignorance bit, while constantly asking disingenuous questions in very obvious attempts at trolling – all you ever do on IPR is post bait which I consistently point out.
Perhaps you should have tried to even once genuinely add something to any conversation, instead of using your every post to attack and troll.
Perhaps given your “drunk” boasting on BAN of raping children – not to mention threatening to rape and torture myself and my family – you shouldn’t be doubling down on continuing to call me an infant right now…
But you did. And you do. And you clearly will continue to. So here we are. U+1F60F
The birdbrained baby girl Nuna can do nothing but lie, insult, project, repeat, and contradict herself endlessly, but she can’t come up with a single shred of evidence for her silly delusions about me and my son or a single shred of evidence that anyone else believes them or for that matter reads them.
Links to discussions where she did all the same exact things ad nauseam and continues to, without having ever shown any evidendce there or anywhere else, are of course not evidence. I don’t think she knows what evidence even is at all – at least, there is no evidence that she has the first clue about it.
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“I finally figured out birdbrain baby girl Nuna’s cryptic codes.”
From the sound of it, the only thing you’ve cracked is the fragile skull containing your bird brain – if you even have as much as the smallest bird, which I doubt U+1F60F There are no “cryptic codes” and there never were, you lazy and inept troll.
“What she is saying is that she’s really mad that nobody even reads her ridiculous charges against me, much less takes them seriously.”
As I said, the relevant siloviki are being kept up to date with your antics, banderovich, whether you like it or not.
And your wishful thinking and empty blustering are not going to make the Spetsluzhbi dematerialize anymore than they will Christ come Judgement Day.
You should have thought of that before attempting to steal valor or threatening torture and rape, Romaskha.
Because there is nothing “ridiculous” about exposing you for who you are and what you have said:
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2024/12/libertarian-party-of-california-chair-responds-to-judicial-committee-ruling-on-convention-postponement/#comments
And yet still, you continue to double-down on calling me an infant and an animal, after having “drunkenly” boasted about sexually abusing infants and animals and having threatened to rape myself and my family… You really aren’t helping your own case.
“The more nobody responds to the questions of whether they read her rants about me and whether they believe her, the crazier and angrier she gets.”
Yes clearly it is I who is getting ever angrier and crazier, rather than you, the nazi ever more desperately bitching, whining, moaning and crying for me to be censored before anyone might learn what you are, Roman-wannabibi-Shukhevich U+1F923
“Then she has to repeat herself at great length to try without success to convince herself and hoping nobody saw the questions.”
That’s a pretty half-assed attempt at projection there, as I’m not asking for you to be silenced, but you are demanding that I be silenced.
Like I said before:
So as long as you continue trolling, I will continue calling out your bait.
As long as you continue lying, I will continue debunking your lies.
As long as you continue attacking, I will continue defending.
As long as you continue spinning up sock puppets, I will continue exposing you
As long as you continue playing your stupid little games, I will continue letting you win stupid prizes.
As long as you continue fucking around, I will continue letting you find out.
My keyboard also has CTRL, C and V buttons, and since you are so lazy as to just endlessly spam the same copy-pastas, I see no reason to put in any more effort in shining disinfectant sunlight on you.
I finally figured out birdbrain baby girl Nuna’s cryptic codes. What she is saying is that she’s really mad that nobody even reads her ridiculous charges against me, much less takes them seriously. The more nobody responds to the questions of whether they read her rants about me and whether they believe her, the crazier and angrier she gets. Then she has to repeat herself at great length to try without success to convince herself and hoping nobody saw the questions.
@Roman-wannabibi-Shukhevich, the valor stealing, banderite nazi; the boastfully self-proclaimed pedophile and zoophile; the idolizer and threatener of rape and torture; and the idolator who previously claimed to worship some false god called “Perun”, but now has decided to pretend – very unconvincingly – to be both a Arabic muslim woman and her son, yet who does not even know that “habibi” is in the masculine form…
Another nice copy-pasta you are spamming around there: gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8
The self-professed child-rapist, who previously threatened to rape and torture me and my family, and who is now pretending that child-rape is part of its religion, is calling me a “baby girl”… How very telling.
You aren’t going to make anyone speak, if they weren’t planning to do so already. Nor are you going to succeed in bullying into silence, anyone who does want to speak. Nor can you magically will out of existence those who I know are reading along because I’ve been keeping them up to date with your antics. U+1F60F
You are in fact, entirely powerless, banderovka. Because unlike you endlessly droning on about your non-existent “wife” “Yuliya” and your non-existent “children” and your non-existent “friends” in Luhansk “who backup with everything you say”, or now your non-existed “husband” and your non-existent “son” whom you also like to LARP as, I really don’t give a flying fuck whether you believe that everything we say is being read by anyone else or not. Because I’ve made damn sure that it is. U+1F60F
There are no “bizarre, delusional allegations”. There is only exposing your evil bullshit, banderovich.
For example:
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2024/12/libertarian-party-of-california-chair-responds-to-judicial-committee-ruling-on-convention-postponement/#comments
and
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2025/01/lnc-chair-announces-inauguration-celebration-in-d-c/#comments
and
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2025/02/february-2025-monthly-news-open-thread/#comments
If you didn’t want the filth you spewed, and threatened, and boasted about, to come back to bite you, then perhaps you shouldn’t have spewed it in the first place. But you did.
Perhaps, you should not have started out by spamming the same off-topic copy-pasta comparing me to an animal as you did on BAN – especially given your history of bestiality, which you were all to happy to “drunkenly” boast about on BAN when threatening me and my loved ones with rape and torture. But you did.
Perhaps you should not have committed to this stupid feigned ignorance bit, while constantly asking disingenuous questions in very obvious attempts at trolling – all you ever do on IPR is post bait which I consistently point out. But you did.
Perhaps you should have tried to even once genuinely add something to any conversation, instead of using your every post to attack and troll. But you haven’t. And probably never will. Are you even capable of such discipline? It seems not.
No. Instead you just keep doubling down on your stupid new child rapist-worshiping goat-fucker shtick. Just like on BAN you kept doubling down on your stupid old “veteran” from Luhansk who doesn’t know Russian shtick…
More squawking and screeching from baby girl Nuna that most likely not even one person will read. If anyone does read it, please speak up. And please let the rest of us know if or when she ever says anything new.
In the even less likely event that someone not only reads it but finds it convincing, please make sure to speak up, don’t be shy. Please explain in your own words, hopefully more concisely and using only standard English words and no cryptic codes, what the so called evidence is for her bizarre, delusional allegations.
@Mr Solntsev
While I to some extent agreed with your earlier statement that “The reasons why prohibition is a bad idea have naught to do with how dangerous or benign any given substance is” when taken at face value. That was because it says more about the inherent evils of statism than anything about the substances (ab)used.
But now that you more explicitly equate different addictions to each other, I must protests. Just because the same neurological and hormonal chemistry is involved, doesn’t mean they have the same effect.
I hope everyone can agree that in so far as any addiction makes you dependent on and enslaved to a certain substance or behavior, it is unhealthy. That does not, as you rightly argue, justify government intervention to replace personal responsibility.
However, the addictive properties of drugs are not the only thing – or even the primary thing – that makes them a dangerous. And it is precisely those other things that may or may not justify prohibition.
It is very easy to responsibly consume alcohol and entirely negate any negative effect. So nobody in their right mind would wish to restrict access to it. Similarly tobacco, while never particularly healthy, can easily be consumed in a relatively responsible way.
But marijuana, for example, there is no responsible way to consume, because it always carries the risk of mental health problems, including panic attacks, anxiety disorders, paranoia, psychosis, schizophrenia and anger management issues, even when consumed sparingly. Science has, as of yet, found no reliable way to predict which individual will react to it how.
And since marijuana is known to carry a risks not only to the user but to everyone else – which can continue even long after the subject has ceased consuming it – there is a case to be made for prohibiting marijuana, which does not exist for alcohol and tobacco.
Whether that justifies government intervention and of what kind, is of course an entirely separate debate. Which is why many/most small-L libertarians are both opposed to making marijuana freely available without prescription outside of a controlled environment, and also to the state waging a draconian war on drugs – or more accurately, against drug users.
“Prohibition is itself a type of addiction for law enforcement”
This certainly appears to be true. But it is merely one instance of the greater problem: law enforcers’ addiction to (ab)use of force. Look at the kind of people who are willing to become police officers: they are overwhelmingly sadistic and self-important little tyrants with an inferiority complex. They seek authority to justify (ab)using force. You give them even the tiniest bit of power and they will immediately try to exploit it for all its worth.
That is also why sheriffs departments are far less inherently evil than police departments: the sheriff is an elected official. Now unfortunately his deputies are still appointed, which makes them little better than the police in practice; but at least their boss – the one (theoretically) responsible at the end of the day – serves at the pleasure of the electorate, and can be removed by them!
“the intent isn’t necessarily to convince the person putting forward such arguments […] It’s to persuade potentially more persuadable people who might read concurrently or later.”
Very shrewd. However, when the argument is sufficiently ridiculous – as in this case, where Roman-wannabibi-Shukhevich is merely blatantly trolling – there really isn’t much of any point in engaging logically, as it would give them exactly what they are after, wasting your time, and since, if anyone even exists who could be convinced by it, they would necessarily be so stupid or dishonest that they are impervious to reason anyway.
“In Russia of course that’s true, but there are exceptions when Slavic names become Westernized after some generations abroad, are adopted through marriage, etc.”
You are of course unfortunately correct that under corrupting western influence, some people lose proper respect for their name.
“I hadn’t planned on discussing this, since being a man is not particularly relevant to the validity or lack thereof of any opinion I’ve expressed here as far as I can see”
And you shouldn’t have to, since as you say, it is not particularly relevant to the merit of the arguments you have given.
As you can see from the first version of my comment – since eventually both were placed – I had not originally made any comment on the matter. But upon my second attempt, I could not resist slipping in a little line exposing once again how Roman-wannabe-Shukhevich doesn’t even know Russian properly, despite pretending to have grown up in, lived in and fought for Luhansk, and to still have friends there today…
I apologize if I made you feel like it was necessary to comment on the matter, or worse, to disclose information – no matter how harmless – about yourself.
“I don’t see any reason to disclose additional biographical information past that.”
I fully respect that. Please do not feel externally compelled or pressured to disclose anything at all.
The same creature which has a problem drawing the most logical conclusion from your name, simultaneously is going about floating, without any evidence but with complete certainty, the idea that I am a woman: something which it has no right to have either denied or confirmed, but which does showcase its purpose here – to troll – quite plainly, yet again.
“If Mr. Solntsev were a woman, then “her” name would be “Solntseva”
In Russia of course that’s true, but there are exceptions when Slavic names become Westernized after some generations abroad, are adopted through marriage, etc. The first example that came to mind was Tiger Woods mistress Rachel Uchitel, whose last name is in the male form because she’s American, even though it’s of Russian origin. There must be many other examples, but none came to mind, so just to find some I disambiguated a couple of common Russian surnames on Wikipedia.
All the Ivanovs were correctly Ivanov or Ivanova so I tried one additional. With Smirnov I found two counterexamples.
Karin Smirnov (née Strindberg) married a Russian Bolshevik but did not become a Smirnova.
A different Karin Smirnoff (nee Larsson) is a living author of sufficient note to have an article. She also did not become a Smirnova.
With these three examples, I think it’s sufficient to demonstrate that based solely on what I disclosed of my name it could have conceivably been female, even though it isn’t. I hadn’t planned on discussing this, since being a man is not particularly relevant to the validity or lack thereof of any opinion I’ve expressed here as far as I can see, but it seems harmless enough. I don’t see any reason to disclose additional biographical information past that.
“If Chairman Mao and the Taliban are your role models, the problems with your thinking are too fundamental to even begin untangling.”
True, but the intent isn’t necessarily to convince the person putting forward such arguments, aside from the very rare conversion. It’s to persuade potentially more persuadable people who might read concurrently or later. Any argument can be logically engaged, which doesn’t require or benefit from speculation as to whether the person putting it forth is sincere, persuadable, etc.
Some people do believe such things and make such arguments – I’ve seen them before. At least some of them, I presume, actually believe them, which means that they were somehow convinced to believe such things and convince at least some other people to believe them. Therefore, I think it’s useful to have counterarguments for them.
Dismissing them out of hand as too absurd to address leaves unnecessary room for them to potentially convince more open minded people for lack of counterargument offered. Some people lack historical context for what was wrong with those regimes. Others may know better than to want to emulate them in other respects but be open to the argument that their extreme approach to drug problems could be copied without those other things, and so on.
“Even if the war on drugs could never be won that doesn’t mean we just surrender. Murder, robbery, etc still happen, but that doesn’t mean we just make them legal.”
Overeating has many of the same detrimental features as drug addiction or abuse, but that doesn’t mean we should make it illegal. Indeed, addiction to all sorts of things is harmful to addicts and those in their lives – work, sex, exercise, internet, etc, etc. It’s not possible to legislate away addiction or doing to excess anything which can be done to excess.
What’s more, all these things literally ARE drug addiction, because they release the same mind altering brain chemicals as consuming drugs does. When you do anything to sufficient excess, it’s both mind altering and (for some people more than for others) addictive.
The difference with crimes like murder and robbery is that there’s an identifiable, unwilling direct victim. With drugs you have willing consumers and willing producers / suppliers / distributors, with some addiction prone people who overdo it and cause harm to themselves and others around them – but they still do have some choice in the matter. There are hardcore addicts who stop every single day. Legally the distinction is called mala prohibitum vs mala in se.
When you get into the victim is “society” or “they aren’t in their right minds,” “can’t help themselves” etc., that’s when the logic can be stretched to justify endless amounts of tyranny and the results are never good because things invariably go too far. Prohibition is itself a type of addiction for law enforcement, media, and ironically for drug dealing gangs which profit from the price premium prohibition puts on drugs. Even some drug addicts are addicted at least in part to the adrenaline of doing something dangerous and forbidden, the thrill of escaping arrest, robbery, etc.
@Unimportant
The trolls gonna troll U+1F937
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@Roman-wannabibi-Shukhevich, the valor stealing, banderite nazi; the boastfully self-proclaimed pedophile and zoophile; the idolizer and threatener of rape and torture; and the idolator who previously claimed to worship some false god called “Perun”, but now has decided to pretend – very unconvincingly – to be both a Arabic muslim woman and her son, yet who does not even know that “habibi” is in the masculine form…
“any man or woman of good faith can find little fault with the Taliban. They have been as close to an ideal government as has existed in any of our lifetimes.”
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“baseless, unfounded, ridiculous claims which come from the delusional voices in her mentally ill head”
Here we go again. U+1F60F There is nothing “baseless”, “unfounded”, “ridiculous” or “delusional” about exposing your evil bullshit, banderovich.
See for example:
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2024/12/libertarian-party-of-california-chair-responds-to-judicial-committee-ruling-on-convention-postponement/#comments
and
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2025/01/lnc-chair-announces-inauguration-celebration-in-d-c/#comments
and
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2025/02/february-2025-monthly-news-open-thread/#comments
If you didn’t want the filth you spewed, and threatened, and boasted about, to come back to bite you, then perhaps you shouldn’t have spewed it in the first place. But you did.
Perhaps, you should not have started out by spamming the same off-topic copy-pasta comparing me to an animal as you did on BAN – especially given your history of bestiality, which you were all to happy to “drunkenly” boast about on BAN when threatening me and my loved ones with rape and torture. But you did.
Perhaps you should not have committed to this stupid feigned ignorance bit, while constantly asking disingenuous questions in very obvious attempts at trolling – all you ever do on IPR is post bait which I consistently point out. But you did.
Perhaps you should have tried to even once genuinely add something to any conversation, instead of using your every post to attack and troll. But you haven’t. And probably never will. Are you even capable of such discipline? It seems not.
No. Instead you just keep doubling down on your stupid new child rapist-worshiping goat-fucker shtick. Just like on BAN you kept doubling down on your stupid old “veteran” from Luhansk who doesn’t know Russian shtick…
Even if the war on drugs could never be won that doesn’t mean we just surrender. Murder, robbery, etc still happen, but that doesn’t mean we just make them legal.
If Chairman Mao and the Taliban are your role models, the problems with your thinking are too fundamental to even begin untangling.
Both baby girl Nuna – with her constant repetition of baseless, unfounded, ridiculous claims which come from the delusional voices in her mentally ill head and that sound like nothing so much as the squawking, hissing, and screeching of an aggressive young female parrot – as well as Mr. Solntsev, write far too much to read in full. Maybe it’s some sort of Slavic thing. They need to boil it down.
In addition to China, Afghanistan under the Taliban has massively cut opium production. Certainly, any man or woman of good faith can find little fault with the Taliban. They have been as close to an ideal government as has existed in any of our lifetimes.
Using https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_opium_in_China as a rough starting point – China never suppressed opium use or production for very long. The closest it came was during the most repressive period under Chairman Mao, when tens of millions of Chinese starved to death and the whole country lived in repressive conditions of totalitarianism which would make incarceration in a maximum security US prison seem quite enviable by comparison.
Even the relatively liberalized dictatorship after Mao, as brutal as it still is in thwarting every expression of freedom in China, is insufficiently absolutist to keep millions of Chinese from opium cultivation and addiction.
Therefore, it seems that a country has to become at least as totalitarian as China was under Mao to “win” an internal drug war – even temporarily – and that’s if you believe the regime’s propaganda. In regimes that totalitarian, truth is always ruthlessly suppressed, particularly facts which aren’t pleasant to the regime. Thus, Maoist China’s claims to have won its war on opium should be taken much more skeptically than a quick read of the Wikipedia article might suggest.
Without digging much further, it seems quite likely that Maoist propaganda simply lied about the success level of its opium suppression campaign, and no one could independently verify the claims, so they were passed on as accepted facts. If that’s the case, even Maoist levels of disregard for any form of freedom, human life, human dignity, rights of the accused,economic freedom etc. aren’t sufficient to win any war on drugs. And even if they are, winning a war on drugs at the cost of every imaginable freedom and of the economic success level needed to preclude mass starvation is hardly worth such a “victory.”
Let’s also, if we were to take this idea seriously, consider just what level of risk of death might completely deter drug addicts, dealers, and manufacturers/growers.
For example, currently in the USA there are on the order of 100k overdose deaths per year. The number of addicts is, I would guess, less than 10 million, perhaps substantially less. There are additionally many ways in which addicts die besides overdose.
As for dealers and manufacturers, even if they are not also addicted as well, there are very high risks of dying in warfare between gangs, shootouts with police, robberies of those known or believed by other addicts and criminals to have large or in some cases even small quantities of drugs and or cash, etc.
Reportedly, news that certain batches of drugs cause overdose deaths actually cause those batches to become more sought out by addicts, not less.
What level of draconian enforcement would be sufficient to pose a greater deterrent?
Incarceration doesn’t seem to scare addicts or dealers much either, at least not enough to solve the issue. Illegal drugs are reportedly widely available in maximum security prisons, and the substantial risk of incarceration isn’t enough to scare millions of addicts and suppliers straight. The same holds true in countries where prisons are substantially harsher than in the US – they nevertheless have many drug addicts, dealers, overdoses, etc.
Does anyone here really favor making any entire nation, or perhaps the world as a whole, more secure than a maximum security prison and affording its citizens/inmates less in the way of freedom?
Just what level of draconianism is sufficient, and how can it possibly be anything better than a temporary and pyrrhic victory against any given drug problem anywhere ever?
Mr. Solntsev is correct. R Solntsev, R, or RS would all be fine – you can call me a chamberpot if you wish, so long as you don’t use me as one.
What are consequences of severely draconian policies? To my mind the biggest one is normalizing hasty, en masse, perhaps at times extrajudicial applications of death penalty. I’m not necessarily opposed to the death penalty per se, but scale matters, as does proportionality. It it is applied on a large scale, and to lesser crimes, etc., it has the effect of cheapening life in general, and normalizing disproportionate response in general.
To illustrate this we can examine the example offered of China the two times it used extremely draconian measures to temporarily eliminate or nearly eliminate opium use and cultivation. What followed those episodes in Chinese history? Mass death by external and civil war, mass starvation, mass imprisonment in “reeducation” camps, total destruction of personal and economic liberty for generations. Perhaps those draconian measures against a drug normalized or helped normalize such things for the Chinese people, with reverberations being felt even today?
What other examples of draconian policies eliminating a drug problem would anyone like to offer? Please offer up your views on when and where that has ever worked, especially beyond a very temporary fashion.
The only recent example which comes to mind is under Rodrigo Duterte in the Phillippines. Thousands of people who were allegedly drug users, dealers, manufacturers, etc were killed extrajudicially, which did not end that nation’s illegal drug problems, given that it continues in a less draconian fashion under the younger Marcos. Thus, killing thousands to tens of thousands of people in a population of ~ 100 million over 6 years is obviously insufficient scale of draconianism for this to work.
What about more draconian than that? Due process seems unlikely at those scales, or would be so expensive if possible at all that the economy would be severely distorted by the taxes and manpower it would require at the very least.
Far more likely, it would turn into a situation where people are executed on scant evidence. Past experience, unrelated to drugs, from any number of nations shows such situations result in cultures of neighbors, co-workers, family members turning each other in to settle unrelated personal scores, out of envy, etc., regardless of guilt. The suspects are then generally presumed guilty, and proving innocence is unlikely to impossible. They are generally then tortured into confessions which usually name other people who may or may not be guilty, and so on.
The results of that are cultures of distrust among people, aversion to speaking freely or resolving differences amicably, widespread sadism, negative effects of many potentially more useful people worked to death in prison camps rather than contributing to what otherwise could be a thriving society, negative effects on families deprived of their family members in these ways, and many other negative ripples throughout society.
Witch hunts and draconian measures against any actual or perceived social ill at some point exceed any society’s tolerance for going too far and ensnaring too many innocent people. If such measures were effective at solving social ills without causing or worsening too many others, wouldn’t they become universally adopted over time as models of success rather than serving as cautionary lessons of what not to do?
“a hero, hostage, and unjustly imprisoned, claiming he did nothing wrong and that his illegal drug use was ‘justified’ by some quack doctor’s prescription or advice […] openly drinking beer at a public event while standing next to the president of his country and in front of news cameras […] Why on earth should this miscreant be drawing air, much less outside of a dungeon, and even far less than that guzzling alcohol in public while being celebrated as a heroic freed hostage next to his country’s leader and a bevy of worshipful broadcasters? This man should be allowed to poison the minds of children anywhere in the world with impunity?.”
And since you enjoy continuing to double-down on your goat-fucker shtick so much, continue to enjoy pretending to be offended that president Putin agreed to president Trump’s request to release an American teacher who spent four years in a Russian gaol U+1F60F :
https://x.com/POTUS/status/1889675492090949841
https://x.com/POTUS/status/1889526448945307901
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1889530920308252999
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1889401975751504210
“I don’t pretend anything”
Oh but you do. It’s all you ever do.
You pretend to be a “veteran”. You pretend to be from Luhansk. You pretend it is not transliterated to the Latin alphabet as “Luhansk”. You pretend eating horse meat is not common throughout Donbass. You pretend to worship some pretend “god” you pretend is called “Perun”. You pretend to have a “wife” you pretend is called “Yuliya”. You pretend to have “children”. You pretend to have “friends” currently in Luhansk. And naturally you pretend that they all back up each of your factual errors and lies.
Then you pretend to be an “Arab”. And then you pretend to be “his” “mother”. You pretend “habibi” is feminine instead of masculine. You pretend to be a “muslim”. You pretend to have a “husband”.
You pretend you are many different “people”. You pretend you aren’t a bandera nazi. You pretend you haven’t threatened to rape and torture me and my family. You pretend you haven’t gloated and boasted of sexually abusing children and animals.
And now you pretend this is “unfounded” and that there is “zero evidence”. U+1F60F
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“I’m not who she keeps claiming with zero evidence I am”
We’ve been over this time and time again, banderovich.
See for example:
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2024/12/libertarian-party-of-california-chair-responds-to-judicial-committee-ruling-on-convention-postponement/#comments
and
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2025/01/lnc-chair-announces-inauguration-celebration-in-d-c/#comments
and
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2025/02/february-2025-monthly-news-open-thread/#comments
If you didn’t want the filth you spewed, and threatened, and boasted about, to come back to bite you, then perhaps you shouldn’t have spewed it in the first place. But you did.
Perhaps, you should not have started out by spamming the same off-topic copy-pasta comparing me to an animal as you did on BAN – especially given your history of bestiality, which you were all to happy to “drunkenly” boast about on BAN when threatening me and my loved ones with rape and torture. But you did.
Speaking of “zero evidence”, you still have yet to come up with any to support your pretending that I am supposed to be a woman U+1F60F
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“I don’t understand her codes and nonstandard words and don’t want to,”
Who cares whether you pretend to understand or not, Roman-wannabibi-Shukhevich. This isn’t about you. If it was, I would ignore your blatant trolling just like Mr Solntsev did. Keep on making a fool of yourself. U+1F602
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“she is the only one trolling and making a fool of herself”
Perhaps you should not have committed to this stupid feigned ignorance bit, while constantly asking disingenuous questions in very obvious attempts at trolling – all you ever do on IPR is post bait which I consistently point out. But you did.
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“I didn’t address her nonsense in this thread until she addressed me.”
Perhaps you should have tried to even once genuinely add something to any conversation, instead of using your every post to attack and troll. But you haven’t. And probably never will. Are you even capable of such discipline? It seems not.
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“Mr., Mrs. or Miss Solntsev has yet to respond”
If Mr. Solntsev were a woman, then “her” name would be “Solntseva”, you ignorant, valor-stealing fraud. U+1F602
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“Meanwhile, anyone else is free to get back to the topic of the discussion – even baby girl, if she can ever bring herself to be so mature even temporarily.”
Well, isn’t it nice and dandy to have a valor-stealing, banderite, pedophile, zoophile, rape and torture idolizing “Perun” idolator like you telling me I’m free to speak… U+1F923
Perhaps you should have tried to even once genuinely add something to any conversation, instead of using your every post to attack and troll. But you haven’t. And probably never will. Are you even capable of such discipline? It seems not.
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“the Prophet Muhammad said “every intoxicant is khamr, and every intoxicant is forbidden.’”
Leave it to one self-proclaimed child-rapist to invoke another. U+1F60F
“There is no God except Allah, and Muhammad is His prophet.”
“Allah” is the Arabic for “God”, so yes “there is no God except God” is a true statement. Allah however does not have any child-raping “prophets”. The only one who the child-rapist Mohamed served as was his father and master iblis, shaitan – just the same as you, Romashka the “Perun” worshiper.
“I don’t pretend anything”
Oh but you do. It’s all you ever do.
You pretend to be a “veteran”. You pretend to be from Luhansk. You pretend it is not transliterated to the Latin alphabet as “Luhansk”. You pretend eating horse meat is not common throughout Donbass. You pretend to worship some pretend “god” you pretend is called “Perun”. You pretend to have a “wife” you pretend is called “Yuliya”. You pretend to have “children”. You pretend to have “friends” currently in Luhansk. And naturally you pretend that they all back up each of your factual errors and lies.
Then you pretend to be an “Arab”. And then you pretend to be “his” “mother”. You pretend “habibi” is feminine instead of masculine. You pretend to be a “muslim”. You pretend to have a “husband”.
You pretend you are many different “people”. You pretend you aren’t a bandera nazi. You pretend you haven’t threatened to rape and torture me and my family. You pretend you haven’t gloated and boasted of sexually abusing children and animals.
And now you pretend this is “unfounded” and that there is “zero evidence”. U+1F60F
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“I’m not who she keeps claiming with zero evidence I am”
We’ve been over this time and time again, banderovich.
See for example:
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2024/12/libertarian-party-of-california-chair-responds-to-judicial-committee-ruling-on-convention-postponement/#comments
and
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2025/01/lnc-chair-announces-inauguration-celebration-in-d-c/#comments
and
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2025/02/february-2025-monthly-news-open-thread/#comments
If you didn’t want the filth you spewed, and threatened, and boasted about, to come back to bite you, then perhaps you shouldn’t have spewed it in the first place. But you did.
Perhaps, you should not have started out by spamming the same off-topic copy-pasta comparing me to an animal as you did on BAN – especially given your history of bestiality, which you were all to happy to “drunkenly” boast about on BAN when threatening me and my loved ones with rape and torture. But you did.
Speaking of “zero evidence”, you still have yet to come up with any to support your pretending that I am supposed to be a woman U+1F60F
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“I don’t understand her codes and nonstandard words and don’t want to,”
Who cares whether you pretend to understand or not, Roman-wannabibi-Shukhevich. This isn’t about you. If it was, I would ignore your blatant trolling just like Mr Solntsev did. Keep on making a fool of yourself. U+1F602
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“she is the only one trolling and making a fool of herself”
Perhaps you should not have committed to this stupid feigned ignorance bit, while constantly asking disingenuous questions in very obvious attempts at trolling – all you ever do on IPR is post bait which I consistently point out. But you did.
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“Meanwhile, anyone else is free to get back to the topic of the discussion – even baby girl, if she can ever bring herself to be so mature even temporarily.”
Perhaps you should have tried to even once genuinely add something to any conversation, instead of using your every post to attack and troll. But you haven’t. And probably never will. Are you even capable of such discipline? It seems not.
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“the Prophet Muhammad said “every intoxicant is khamr, and every intoxicant is forbidden.’”
Leave it to one self-proclaimed child-rapist to invoke another. U+1F60F
“There is no God except Allah, and Muhammad is His prophet.”
“Allah” is the Arabic for “God”, so yes “there is no God except God” is a true statement. Allah however does not have any child-raping “prophets”. The only one who the child-rapist Mohamed served as was his father and master iblis, shaitan – just the same as you, Romashka the “Perun” worshiper.
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“a hero, hostage, and unjustly imprisoned, claiming he did nothing wrong and that his illegal drug use was ‘justified’ by some quack doctor’s prescription or advice […] openly drinking beer at a public event while standing next to the president of his country and in front of news cameras […] Why on earth should this miscreant be drawing air, much less outside of a dungeon, and even far less than that guzzling alcohol in public while being celebrated as a heroic freed hostage next to his country’s leader and a bevy of worshipful broadcasters? This man should be allowed to poison the minds of children anywhere in the world with impunity?.”
Since you enjoy continuing to double-down on your goat-fucker shtick so much, continue to enjoy pretending to be offended that president Putin agreed to president Trump’s request to release an American teacher who spent four years in a Russian gaol U+1F60F :
https://x.com/POTUS/status/1889675492090949841
https://x.com/POTUS/status/1889526448945307901
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1889530920308252999
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1889401975751504210
I don’t pretend anything, I’m not who she keeps claiming with zero evidence I am, I don’t understand her codes and nonstandard words and don’t want to, and she is the only one trolling and making a fool of herself. I didn’t address her nonsense in this thread until she addressed me. Mr., Mrs. or Miss Solntsev has yet to respond, so what? Perhaps he or she has other things to do. Perhaps I gave him or her something to think about. Just because baby girl has endless time on her hands and thinks she knows everything doesn’t mean everyone else does.
Meanwhile, anyone else is free to get back to the topic of the discussion – even baby girl, if she can ever bring herself to be so mature even temporarily.
I asked what these negative consequences of draconian policies which actually eliminate drugs from society are and how they outweigh all the direct and indirect negative effects of drug use and abuse on society. If anyone has an answer please do feel free.
Who cares whether you pretend to understand or not, Roman-wannabibi-Shukhevich. This isn’t about you. If it was, I would ignore your blatant trolling just like Mr Solntsev did. Keep on making a fool of yourself. U+1F602
Clearly that’s true of baby girl, even though she seems to falsely imply that it applies to me rather than to her. I still have zero desire to look up what her codes are supposed to mean, if indeed they mean anything at all, regardless of how many times the baby girl posts them.
100% troll. 0% muslim. Blatantly.
Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8
I neglected to mention that this unjustly freed American criminal was, and most likely will be again, a teacher, most likely of children. Why on earth should this miscreant be drawing air, much less outside of a dungeon, and even far less than that guzzling alcohol in public while being celebrated as a heroic freed hostage next to his country’s leader and a bevy of worshipful broadcasters?
This man should be allowed to poison the minds of children anywhere in the world with impunity? Disgusting, and intolerable – but unfortunately not in the least bit surprising.
Mr., Mrs., Or Miss Solntsev,
“Short of extremely draconian measures which hurt society in other ways”
What ways would those be, praytell, and have you considered how they balance against the many ways in which society would benefit as a result? Certainly, there are costs, risks, and unintended side effects to anything and everything, but considering those and not considering the benefits leads to paralysis and death in society, just as it would if the same approach were applied to actions taken by a person or private organisation of any sort.
Off the direct topic of your comment but on the general issue in question, I sometimes watch English language propaganda to help maintain and improve my foreign language skills. This morning (it is currently afternoon where I am when I am submitting this) an item of particularly absurd propaganda caught my attention.
An American who was living and working in Russia has been released from prison and repatriated. He was in prison for possessing the evil intoxicant marijuana. In my opinion he should have been publicly whipped (by a very strong man giving him 80 strokes with a well knotted two centimeter thick cane while he was stripped) with the cane applied at full maximum strength for a first offense, with the number of strokes doubled for each successive offense. This would be a death penalty by the second or third offense, I think.
The news propaganda show was calling him a hero, hostage, and unjustly imprisoned, claiming he did nothing wrong and that his illegal drug use was “justified” by some quack doctor’s prescription or advice, despite the undeniable fact that he was knowingly violating the laws of his host nation which clearly spelled out the all too lenient penalty for being caught doing exactly what he was caught doing.
Furthermore, they were celebrating that he was openly drinking beer at a public event while standing next to the president of his country and in front of news cameras.
There can be no question at all that American propaganda promotes these substances to everyone – young impressionable children, those of unsound mind, those with addiction problems, those trying to recover and remain sober, those suffering from various ailments, and people in every part of the world who are exposed to US broadcasts, news propaganda, or entertainment in any and all formats.
Likewise, American propaganda relentlessly teaches everyone, children included, everywhere in the world to disrespect laws, disrespect all forms of authority, and disrespect Allah, and tells Americans in particular that they are above the law no matter where in the world they go.
Any drug can be used more responsibly or less responsibly. But even if that wasn’t true, government attempts at prohibition aren’t any better at solving the very real drug problems which exist than they are at solving other social or economic problems. Short of extremely draconian measures which hurt society in other ways they don’t actually eliminate drug use or abuse. And they introduce a host of additional problems which are repeated across countries, centuries, and substances.
The reasons why prohibition is a bad idea have naught to do with how dangerous or benign any given substance is.
@Mr. Solntsev
Alcohol is only dangerous when consumed excessively – either in the short or long term – or when consumed at a young age, or when contaminated with non-drinking alcohols.
It is quite easy to drink responsibly. And that responsibility is, as you rightly say, of the individual and at most perhaps of their loved ones, but certainly never of the state.
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@Roman-wannabibi-Shukhevich, the valor stealing, banderite nazi; the boastfully self-proclaimed pedophile and zoophile; the idolizer and threatener of rape and torture; and the idolator who previously claimed to worship some false god called “Perun”, but now has decided to pretend – very unconvincingly – to be both a Arabic muslim woman and her son, yet who does not even know that “habibi” is in the masculine form…
U+1F971
There is nothing “unfounded”. We’ve been over this time and time again, banderovich.
See for example:
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2024/12/libertarian-party-of-california-chair-responds-to-judicial-committee-ruling-on-convention-postponement/#comments
and
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2025/01/lnc-chair-announces-inauguration-celebration-in-d-c/#comments
If you didn’t want the filth you spewed, and threatened, and boasted about, to come back to bite you, then perhaps you shouldn’t have spewed it in the first place. But you did.
Perhaps, you should not have started out by spamming the same off-topic copy-pasta comparing me to an animal as you did on BAN – especially given your history of bestiality, which you were all to happy to “drunkenly” boast about on BAN when threatening me and my loved ones with rape and torture. But you did.
Perhaps you should not have committed to this stupid feigned ignorance bit, while constantly asking disingenuous questions in very obvious attempts at trolling – all you ever do on IPR is post bait which I consistently point out. But you did.
Perhaps you should have tried to even once genuinely add something to any conversation, instead of using your every post to attack and troll. But you haven’t. And probably never will. Are you even capable of such discipline? It seems not.
No. Instead you just keep doubling down on your stupid new Arabs who don’t know Arabic shtick. Just like on BAN you kept doubling down on your stupid old “veteran” from Luhansk who doesn’t know Russian shtick. Pathetic!
You can hold whatever opinions you want about alcohol or any other substances, and without any doubt their abuse causes many problems for users and non users alike, but history has amply demonstrated that regardless of how bad they might be, government enforced prohibition only exacerbates the problems and creates a host of new ones, regardless of the substance, country, or historical era.
Prohibition always fails and the “cure” is always worse than the disease – that is the one and only constant among all these many failed experiments.
Jordan, how are unfounded charges of bestiality, Nazism, and alleged secret identities within your site’s civility policies, and why are my posts singled out for moderation when other people report that their comments are automatically posted – including apparently baby girl Nuna?
I have never used alcohol, opiates, or any type of intoxicant in my life, or had sex or any type of sexual contact with anyone except my husband, much less with other species. If my husband, or before I was married my father, were to discover me doing anything of any of those sorts, I would get a well deserved beating, for which I would be subsequently very grateful.
Now as to the substance of her post: alcohol is indisputably a poison. Some people kill themselves with it slowly, others quickly, intentionally or not. They also kill and damage many others. It is responsible for many social ills: addiction, liver disease, overdoses, broken families, violence of all kinds, sexual immorality of all kinds, contributing factor to many types of disease and premature death, automotive accidents, suicides, homicides, workplace mishaps, lost productivity, absenteeism, property crimes of every sort, hallucinations, shakes…we can go on and on. It harms the users and non users alike. It is in fact one of the worst drugs physiologically as withdrawal can in fact kill an addict as well. It is poison, plain and simple.
Baby girl Nuna is right about one thing, and one thing only – the domestic wars on opium which China won, eliminating opium use and production in their country for decades at a time, were in the 20th century, not the 19th. It’s true that China lost the two wars with the UK known as the opium wars, but I said wars on opium, not opium wars, and additionally got the century wrong, so I can understand the confusion. The times when China succeeded in eliminating opium use were in the very early and mid 20th century. Unfortunately, they subsequently loosened their policies and the horrid intoxicant plague came back both times, decades later in both cases.
I’m still not interested in looking up the meaning of her nonstandard words and codes.
As for her lie about Allah declaring alcohol clean, in the Quran alcohol and all intoxicants are called khamr, and khamr is haram (forbidden, anathema). Just one of the verses which proves this:
O you who have believed, indeed, intoxicants (khamr), gambling, [sacrificing on] stone altars [to other than God], and divining arrows are but defilement from the work of Satan, so avoid it that you may be successful.
—?Qur’an 5:90
Hadith has more on this too, as the Prophet Muhammad said “every intoxicant is khamr, and every intoxicant is forbidden.'” Hadith reports Muhammad administered 40 lashes to an alcohol user, and beat alcohol users with palm branches stripped of leaves and with shoes. There is no God except Allah, and Muhammad is His prophet.
Most scholars teach that the punishment for using alcohol should be 80 lashes in the public square for a free man, 40 for a woman or slave, but my husband says the death penalty is appropriate for repeat offenders, and my father said so as well. I agree, of course. For one thing, it is not my place to disagree with them, and for another I do not remember ever thinking otherwise.
“Alcohol is a deadly poison which should be outlawed.”
Not at all, but your nazism certainly is and should be. U+1F60F
“China won it’s war on opium in the 19th century this way, which proves the war on drugs – including alcohol – can be won.”
Maybe lay off the opium yourself, banderovich. China lost both Opium Wars. And all it achieved was to pave the way for the Boxer Rebellion, and by extension the Chinese Communist Revolution and Chinese Civil War.
Nothing good ever comes from calling unclean, what God hath declared clean.
The goat-fucker shtick suits your bestiality though, Romashka, so keep that one up.
Alcohol is a deadly poison which should be outlawed. Just like deadly mind altering drugs which are already illegal and mild altering drugs which are currently available by prescription which should be illegal, we need a real war against all these drugs in every nation. Their manufacture, distribution, possession, and being under their effects should all be subject to the death penalty, and it should be carried out swiftly and publicly. China won it’s war on opium in the 19th century this way, which proves the war on drugs – including alcohol – can be won.
“Alcohol has been categorized by the WHO as a group 1 carcinogen since 1988.”
The W H Omegalul. No wonder this turned out to be just another whole load of bullshit:
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/01/bottoms-up.php
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/no-moderate-drinking-wont-give-you-cancer-surgeon-general-politicization-d0cdcbe6
Wonder how much USAID funding went into the “research” that supposed showed “cancer risks increase based on the amount and frequency of alcohol use, with even light alcohol use increasing cancer risks”…
bUt ThE sCiEnCe Is SeTtLeD!
Frankly, the only thing the Drys have going for them is longevity.
I’d rather consume alcohol and risk cancer than be a prohibitionist and risk dying from anal-retentiveness.
“we must forge connections with community groups, health organizations, educators, faith groups, historians, and the like”
Yeah, about that. I notice that party platform has removed the pro-abortion language which they added in Q2 2023. But that they have not restored the pro-marriage language which they removed at the same time…
https://web.archive.org/web/20230331230216/https://www.prohibitionparty.org/platform
https://web.archive.org/web/20230511061948/https://www.prohibitionparty.org/platform
https://web.archive.org/web/20250112155921/https://www.prohibitionparty.org/platform
https://www.prohibitionparty.org/platform
It would seem that the Prohibition Party has bigger internal issues and power struggles to worry about than pretending that alcohol and tobacco are anywhere near as unhealthy as marijuana and psilocybin…